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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:00 pm 
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What is judds injury? didnt have any ice on the foot after the game. Perhaps he just didnt feel right the other night. We will never know.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:19 pm 
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keogh wrote:
too many supporters that are one eyed an often talk out that other eye.
There are a lots of ways to look at the win in a negative way.
Dont rate Hammers game much as Brogan is finished. He should have thrashed him.

port are an average team coming off a game in Darwin. I would have been disapointed had we not run all over them in the end.

What i am saying is we have improved and the reasons why.

Judd should be rested. He is clearly hampered by his injury. Our midfield has got enough depth to cope without him against another very ordinary team such as the Lions.
And it would give Golden boy Gibbsy to have a go in the guts.

Of course my mate cazzeman will come on here and say that the club knows more than me.
or will come up with another sensational picture to show off his infotech skills.

Just balancing the view on this site with great pleasure

Judd needs a rest. With our easy draw for now perfect time to rest the champ.


I know many don't like what you have to say keogh, but I appreciate your opinion, and I think you do bring some balance to our view on the current crop. Doesn't really matter if you are right or wrong, but it does make this site a better place.

It would be great if Synbad was still posting, and I'm glad you haven't let your detractors get the better of you, because if you and SB joined the Synbad exodus, TC would have something missing: balance. I'm not saying you are right, but you have the right to express your views as long as its not slanderous.

Speaking of slanderous, I do cop a fair bit of criticism from posters because Bondi means Sydney to them and therefore in their mind I'm either you and they give me heaps for my negativity till someone reminds them I'm not Keogh, or I'm called a Setanta basher (when that is so far from the truth), because they think I'm Sydney Blue...and then someone reminds them of the mistaken identity. I've copped it from your detractors and others, and I tell you, none of them show any shame: they are happy to dish crap out but they wont apologise when they are wrong. Funny site.

That doesn't bother me, because it's more of a reflection of them.
I don't let Mr Cloudy get me down. I trust you don't either.

Keep it up, and what you provide is Food for Thought especially to blokes like me who who cop criticism because I have rose coloured flasses.... when I'm not criticised for being keogh or SB. You make TC a better place.

Nothing wrong with your suggestion to put Gibbs in the guts. I have really enjoyed watching him this year because he really has improved the physical side of his game and does beat his opponents. I reckon we would have won by 10 goals if Judd didn't play against Port, maybe more. I think the same will happen if he doesn't play against the Lions too. It will create a sense of urgency and the players would pull together just as they did last year when he was miossing in the first 3 rounds (that Bumbers performance was utter crap, no one could have saved us).

If Judd is carrying an injury, like Buzzaaah said

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I just find it hard to believe that a foot injury isn't hampered by running 7-12k during a game where you are putting ?2-3 times your body weight in force through every step, twisting and carrying an opposition player on your back.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:21 pm 
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If we can't beat Brisbane without Judd I'd be worried!

Collingwood will probably win without Swan. We should be able to do without our best player and still win if our structure is right.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:40 pm 
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Juddy puts in a so so night and he is now carrying and injury and needs a rest - Give me a break

not many giving credit to the game Thomas played on him - Followed him all night and jumped on him everytime he got the ball - plus picked up a lot of disposals himself it was a terrific shutdown job and one of few Port wins for the night - Broadbent gave him the odd chop out to late in the quarters - Juddy spent a bit of time on the bench trying to break the tag - Malthouse tactics
the great man can have an off night and Brocky wasnt there providing the block like the last two weeks and you could clearly see curnow was carrying his shoulder and not as physical as he was earlier this year
MC committee made the decison to bring in a bloke still not 100% because they were worried about the wide open spaces and being expsoed for pace - Cant blame them was thinking the same leading up to the game


Juddy is will be OK

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:45 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Of course my mate cazzeman will come on here and say that the club knows more than me.


Even he knows how much more. :wink:

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keogh wrote:
or will come up with another sensational picture to show off his infotech skills.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:48 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:16 pm 
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sjabc wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
Lol the west Australian newspaper has Waite in our bests


The advertiser has Jamo, and he missed half the game, and limped around for the other bit :screwy:


Michaelangelo Rucci gave Judd votes.

Agree with sjabc about the crowd noise. Place went apeshit when the Blues ran out, so much so that the Mrs said she hadn't even noticed that Port came out after them a minute later.

Another stage pregame after the Carlton chant was going on, the scoreboard douchebag tried rallying the faithful 'to fire up' only to be greeted with deafly silence.

Couldn't have given a stuff when it pissed down in the last. Game was won, and buggered if I was going anywhere after some of the garbage I have to endure last decade at AAMI. 1 goal at 3/4 time against Port in 2004, 0 goals at half time against Adelaide in 2009 etc.

Great arvo. Well done also to the Blues fans, who barracked hard, yet didn't bother with taunting the opposition fans/players or turn on our own when things weren't looking great.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:58 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
keogh wrote:
too many supporters that are one eyed an often talk out that other eye.
There are a lots of ways to look at the win in a negative way.
Dont rate Hammers game much as Brogan is finished. He should have thrashed him.

port are an average team coming off a game in Darwin. I would have been disapointed had we not run all over them in the end.

What i am saying is we have improved and the reasons why.

Judd should be rested. He is clearly hampered by his injury. Our midfield has got enough depth to cope without him against another very ordinary team such as the Lions.
And it would give Golden boy Gibbsy to have a go in the guts.

Of course my mate cazzeman will come on here and say that the club knows more than me.
or will come up with another sensational picture to show off his infotech skills.

Just balancing the view on this site with great pleasure

Judd needs a rest. With our easy draw for now perfect time to rest the champ.


I know many don't like what you have to say keogh, but I appreciate your opinion, and I think you do bring some balance to our view on the current crop. Doesn't really matter if you are right or wrong, but it does make this site a better place.

It would be great if Synbad was still posting, and I'm glad you haven't let your detractors get the better of you, because if you and SB joined the Synbad exodus, TC would have something missing: balance. I'm not saying you are right, but you have the right to express your views as long as its not slanderous.

Speaking of slanderous, I do cop a fair bit of criticism from posters because Bondi means Sydney to them and therefore in their mind I'm either you and they give me heaps for my negativity till someone reminds them I'm not Keogh, or I'm called a Setanta basher (when that is so far from the truth), because they think I'm Sydney Blue...and then someone reminds them of the mistaken identity. I've copped it from your detractors and others, and I tell you, none of them show any shame: they are happy to dish crap out but they wont apologise when they are wrong. Funny site.

That doesn't bother me, because it's more of a reflection of them.
I don't let Mr Cloudy get me down. I trust you don't either.

Keep it up, and what you provide is Food for Thought especially to blokes like me who who cop criticism because I have rose coloured flasses.... when I'm not criticised for being keogh or SB. You make TC a better place.

Nothing wrong with your suggestion to put Gibbs in the guts. I have really enjoyed watching him this year because he really has improved the physical side of his game and does beat his opponents. I reckon we would have won by 10 goals if Judd didn't play against Port, maybe more. I think the same will happen if he doesn't play against the Lions too. It will create a sense of urgency and the players would pull together just as they did last year when he was miossing in the first 3 rounds (that Bumbers performance was utter crap, no one could have saved us).

If Judd is carrying an injury, like Buzzaaah said

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I just find it hard to believe that a foot injury isn't hampered by running 7-12k during a game where you are putting ?2-3 times your body weight in force through every step, twisting and carrying an opposition player on your back.


How can anyone possibly mistake you for anyone else bondi? It's ridiculous. And BTW, you're wrong about Austin - he's much better than Jake Edwards. And you heard THAT here first!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:47 am 
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bluechampion wrote:
The positive to come out of Touhy's bad bounce was how quick some of the boys got to him at 3q time to pat him on the back and reassure him. Shows good spirit.


Poor Zach was horrified :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:00 am 
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Blueboy_Dan wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
The positive to come out of Touhy's bad bounce was how quick some of the boys got to him at 3q time to pat him on the back and reassure him. Shows good spirit.


Poor Zach was horrified :lol:


I thought he was pumped up at 3/4 time - he looked like a boxer waiting for the second round to start.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:40 am 
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For what its worth i reckon thereare some pretty ordinary teams this year
Our best game was against Geelong which we ironically lost.
Things are looking up We are having a good run with injuries which is the crucial factor in all this as it always is

Ireckon we have been lucky
the bullshit about Melbourne being soft was laughable
No Jamar(all Australian)
No Trengrove who is a gun
No Scully who is the gun
With Watson,Hocking out amongst others the Demons were a great bet Friday night
so injuries play the biggest role in determining who wins the grannie particularly when it comes to the engine room

thats why I personally want Judd rested
He is our most important player
rest him so he gets his body right
we play the Lions
should win without him


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:37 am 
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Just watched the replay via the afl site on my new imac with the huge screen. I don't feel so negative as some but maybe that is knowing the result and being as impressed with the new imac as much as the game.

What came out of the h=game was a 10 goal win intestaye ag an ordinary side that was coming off a win.
I thought hammo was good. I know Brogan was injured but Hammo took a few strong grabs and did some ground work. Love to see him use his athleticism. He is a first ruck or nothing and so is Warnock. Wasrnock is a better palmer but Hammo is improving and certainly has no trouble getting first hands to the ball. The knock out around the ground is over rated as it is son crowded it is very hard to get much advantage. Neither does much around the ground but Hammo potentially could hurt more around the ground and certainly looks stronger and more robust. Anyway he deserves another game on Sunday's form.
Murphy is now a bona fide star.
Robbo is the maniac every side needs.
TBird played well.
I always liked Walker as a player and thought it was only chronic injuries that held him back. His kicking is much better and he can play tall and small.
Setanta will be under pressure with Big K coming back, depends a bit on whether they want him to do any ruck work. Setanta had 10 contested possessions which I would have thought is unusual for a ruckman and he was moved into defence when Jammo went off. If Jammo is injured Setanta might go to defence where I think he is most value.
Selfish plkay by many. Scotto and Simmo squandered opportunities by ignoring Setanta when he was running free ahead of them, Setanta had a hook shot instead of giving to Garlett, Waite shot insdtead of giving off. Some players trying to do to much ag a weak oppo.
Zach Tuohy will be a gun. Seems to understand the game better than Setanta, ran well to shepherd several times, has great strength, lateral movement and pace, and a good kick. If he is in it takes pressure off Yarran when running the ball out


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:35 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
Just watched the replay via the afl site on my new imac with the huge screen. I don't feel so negative as some but maybe that is knowing the result and being as impressed with the new imac as much as the game.

What came out of the h=game was a 10 goal win intestaye ag an ordinary side that was coming off a win.
I thought hammo was good. I know Brogan was injured but Hammo took a few strong grabs and did some ground work. Love to see him use his athleticism. He is a first ruck or nothing and so is Warnock. Wasrnock is a better palmer but Hammo is improving and certainly has no trouble getting first hands to the ball. The knock out around the ground is over rated as it is son crowded it is very hard to get much advantage. Neither does much around the ground but Hammo potentially could hurt more around the ground and certainly looks stronger and more robust. Anyway he deserves another game on Sunday's form.
Murphy is now a bona fide star.
Robbo is the maniac every side needs.
TBird played well.
I always liked Walker as a player and thought it was only chronic injuries that held him back. His kicking is much better and he can play tall and small.
Setanta will be under pressure with Big K coming back, depends a bit on whether they want him to do any ruck work. Setanta had 10 contested possessions which I would have thought is unusual for a ruckman and he was moved into defence when Jammo went off. If Jammo is injured Setanta might go to defence where I think he is most value.
Selfish plkay by many. Scotto and Simmo squandered opportunities by ignoring Setanta when he was running free ahead of them, Setanta had a hook shot instead of giving to Garlett, Waite shot insdtead of giving off. Some players trying to do to much ag a weak oppo.
Zach Tuohy will be a gun. Seems to understand the game better than Setanta, ran well to shepherd several times, has great strength, lateral movement and pace, and a good kick. If he is in it takes pressure off Yarran when running the ball out


Is that you Mr Jobs? :grin:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:10 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
Just watched the replay via the afl site on my new imac with the huge screen. I don't feel so negative as some but maybe that is knowing the result and being as impressed with the new imac as much as the game.

What came out of the h=game was a 10 goal win intestaye ag an ordinary side that was coming off a win.
I thought hammo was good. I know Brogan was injured but Hammo took a few strong grabs and did some ground work. Love to see him use his athleticism. He is a first ruck or nothing and so is Warnock. Wasrnock is a better palmer but Hammo is improving and certainly has no trouble getting first hands to the ball. The knock out around the ground is over rated as it is son crowded it is very hard to get much advantage. Neither does much around the ground but Hammo potentially could hurt more around the ground and certainly looks stronger and more robust. Anyway he deserves another game on Sunday's form.
Murphy is now a bona fide star.
Robbo is the maniac every side needs.
TBird played well.
I always liked Walker as a player and thought it was only chronic injuries that held him back. His kicking is much better and he can play tall and small.
Setanta will be under pressure with Big K coming back, depends a bit on whether they want him to do any ruck work. Setanta had 10 contested possessions which I would have thought is unusual for a ruckman and he was moved into defence when Jammo went off. If Jammo is injured Setanta might go to defence where I think he is most value.
Selfish plkay by many. Scotto and Simmo squandered opportunities by ignoring Setanta when he was running free ahead of them, Setanta had a hook shot instead of giving to Garlett, Waite shot insdtead of giving off. Some players trying to do to much ag a weak oppo.
Zach Tuohy will be a gun. Seems to understand the game better than Setanta, ran well to shepherd several times, has great strength, lateral movement and pace, and a good kick. If he is in it takes pressure off Yarran when running the ball out


They stopped passing to Setanta because his decision making and execution was horrific when he was winning the ball in the first half. A real 'nearly' game from Setanta. Could have been in our best players but instead is in the gun.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:12 pm 
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keogh wrote:
For what its worth i reckon thereare some pretty ordinary teams this year
Our best game was against Geelong which we ironically lost.
Things are looking up We are having a good run with injuries which is the crucial factor in all this as it always is

Ireckon we have been lucky
the bullshit about Melbourne being soft was laughable
No Jamar(all Australian)
No Trengrove who is a gun
No Scully who is the gun
With Watson,Hocking out amongst others the Demons were a great bet Friday night
so injuries play the biggest role in determining who wins the grannie particularly when it comes to the engine room

thats why I personally want Judd rested
He is our most important player
rest him so he gets his body right
we play the Lions
should win without him


Agree with most of this


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:26 pm 
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keogh wrote:
For what its worth i reckon thereare some pretty ordinary teams this year
Our best game was against Geelong which we ironically lost.
Things are looking up We are having a good run with injuries which is the crucial factor in all this as it always is

Ireckon we have been lucky
the bullshit about Melbourne being soft was laughable
No Jamar(all Australian)
No Trengrove who is a gun
No Scully who is the gun
With Watson,Hocking out amongst others the Demons were a great bet Friday night
so injuries play the biggest role in determining who wins the grannie particularly when it comes to the engine room

thats why I personally want Judd rested
He is our most important player
rest him so he gets his body right
we play the Lions
should win without him


I agree with some of it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:31 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Great arvo. Well done also to the Blues fans, who barracked hard, yet didn't bother with taunting the opposition fans.


:grin:

I did !

When they started walking out en mass I yelled out a few "One Club....One Debt" lines :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:09 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Pklz wrote:
As a keen Bullants watchers I was pretty disappointed they made Touhy the sub though. Should have given the kid a full game to let him settle into the pace of the game. With guys pushing for selection next week it makes it hard to keep him in the side after just over a quarter of footy this week. Hope I'm wrong though.


I agree.

So do I. Should have started in the 18.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:54 pm 
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Let's get one thing straight I love big Carlos but he is not a backman.You need good decision makers in the back lhalf that plays a big part of a successful back and lets face it he ain't a great decision maker. He's scares the hell out of me when he is anywhere near opposition goals.


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