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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:39 am 
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TomAlvin'sWig wrote:
Win Friday night and we sit above Collingwood in 2nd spot. I like that prospect :smoking:

How do you figure that out

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:44 am 
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see edit. newspapers for two days posting such a ladder....that's pretty good


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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:10 am 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
skadoosh wrote:
I only watched here and there of the game, but I'm wondering did Geelong try short kicks - trying to keep possession - taking their time - trying to work their way around the forward press ie. as we tried against Collingwood?

They did, but they mixed it up nicely going long frequently.

Thought this helped to isolate filth players in the zone as it spread a bit because of confusion as to which way the cats would attack.


I reckon you're on the money teaguey.

Both teams opened each other up at times, and both teams were hard at it.
I like the way Geelong mixed it up and broke the Pies armour...you know...that Roman wall shite Malthouse refers to.

I also think closing the space down for the Pies and hitting them hard can really unbalance them.

Now as for the Cats...it looks to me that they move the ball quickly and precisely. Forward of the receiver at all times so they don't break stride.

We have a greater running strength and faster in the speed stakes than Geelong.
If we can avoid clangers we will compete. They are a precision passing team even under those swirly wind conditions.

Oh yeah, last night goes to show what inaccurate kicking can do to lose the winnable game.

I watched the 2011 Carlton Pies game and in that first Q we really carved them up with pace. If we do that and kivk accurately we have just as much chance to beat them as we've had in the past.

We can win next week.

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:22 am 
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TomAlvin'sWig wrote:
Win Friday night and we sit above Collingwood in 2nd spot (if only for a couple of days). I like that prospect :smoking:

Not even the mighty pois could win after a bye . . . let's show them how it's done :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:21 pm 
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Warnock will need to play a blinder.
Russell will have a tougher job than past years if he plays on Johnson who is playing more in the midfield.
I would play Gibbs on either Joel Corey, Bartel or Johnson. Don't think he is as well suited to the in and under style of Selwood.
Duigan on Chappy?
Army on Stokes.
I suspect Scarlett, Taylor and Enright will be able to cover Waite and Setanta. The key will be Walker, Jeffy & Betts. And Warnock resting forward. Walker may get a defensive forward job on Enright or even on Wojo, stopping them setting up play or breaking lines out of defense, respectively.
We will also have to counter Ottens slipping forward to kick 2 or 3 goals??

Would love to see Judd v Selwood head to head. Or, even better, Murphy v Selwood!

Sadly, the game last night didn't seem to be too physically taxing for Geelong. And no major injuries for them. We will just have to beat them on merit!


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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:45 pm 
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They are a very good team but despite being undefeated, they are not the unstoppable force of recent years and provided we are on our game we have every chance of knocking them off.

Although it was only a pre-season game we completely dominated them just two months ago but our horrible wastefulness in front of goal (which sadly has continued) kept them in it and they stormed home to win by two goals. Sure, the teams will each be slightly different now but then surely we won't be so profligate again.

Will be a good game.

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:21 pm 
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How bad is Lings injury as he will most likely go to Judd?


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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:28 pm 
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This weeks game is at Etihad - will teh AFL consider switching it to the MCG???

They will get 70,000 + at the MCG you'd reckon???


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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:29 pm 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
How bad is Lings injury as he will most likely go to Judd?


Having scans- not as bad as it looked, will know the next few days (SEN)

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:38 pm 
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are they a better team with Ling in or with him out?


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:50 am 
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McLean may finally get his chance with the Blues


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/m ... 1enle.html

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Lachie Henderson, Shaun Hampson and Matt Watson are others pushing for senior recalls against the Cats on Friday night.



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The Blues have taken a cautious approach with Kreuzer, who was expected to return in the VFL this weekend.

Kreuzer remains a chance to return for the round 11 clash against Melbourne at the MCG on the following Friday night.

''We'll just have to see how he trains during the week and hopefully he plays with us [the Bullants] next weekend,'' Harris said.

''Who knows what the plan is with him with that. I think it's just a matter of playing a game again to see how he goes.

''He's training really well and he's up and about so he's very close to playing and then it will just depend on how he gets through those games and pulls up.''




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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:48 am 
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No way is Henderson, hampson and Watson ready to play. While hendo was ok in parts you would have expected him to dominate the young franks ton players. Watson worried me, absolutely no urgency or enthusiasm in his game yesterday.

I don't think anyone in the bull ants put their hands up yesterday. Mcinness was the best but they wont put him in.


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:32 am 
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Drewgirl wrote:
No way is Henderson, hampson and Watson ready to play. While hendo was ok in parts you would have expected him to dominate the young franks ton players. Watson worried me, absolutely no urgency or enthusiasm in his game yesterday.

I don't think anyone in the bull ants put their hands up yesterday. Mcinness was the best but they wont put him in.


I didn't watch the game yesterday, but from all reports/posts he was so and so with...well just what you said Drewgirl.

I think the sense of urgency would automatically ignite like the hairs on his neck if he is selected, but I can't help remembering that photo from training a week or so ago with Kreuzer monstering Watson in a marking duel....can't wait for the Kreuzer up forward and ruck roving...oh yeah and rucking every now and then.

The question is who would Watson match up on against Geelong if selected?
I would have thought Laidler and White would be considered before Watson...but is there a big body we would put Watson up against?

CNF...... Mooney...................................? Laidler...strong enough ??
FF........ Pods / Duncan.........................? Jamison TICK
FP.........Ottens/ Hawkins......................? White ...tall enough? Watson...experienced enough? Will be eaten alive by Ottens in the 1 on 1.

Yarran - Varcoe / Stokes
Duigan - Chapman/ Bartel
Russell - Menzel/ Johnson

Gibbs may lend a hand ...maybe on Johnson as he plays more midfield these days.

It's going to be tough on the defense if our midfield doesn't win, so I'm expecting us to win it here. I wouldn't hard tag Bartel, Chapman or Ling.
We really need Warnock to be a danger around the ground and forward to warrant Ottens keeing a close eye on him.

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:47 am 
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In: Henderson, Laidler, McLean
Out: Thornton, Joseph, Curnow

Armfield Jamison Russell
Duigen Laidler Yarran
Murphy Carrazzo Simpson
Gibbs Waite Gartlett
Walker Henderson Betts
Warnock McLean Judd
O'hAilpin Scotland Ellard Robinson

ps. would bring Hammer in for O'hAilpin but i don't see the match committee agreeing.
Ruck: Warnock vs Ottens & O'hAilpn vs Hawkins
Russell vs Johnson
Jamison vs Podsiadley
Liadler vs Mooney (concerned but injured) White?
Armfield vs Stokes
Carrazzo vs Selwood


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 12:34 pm 
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In Henderson, Laidler and McLean
Out Curnow, Joseph and ..... that's the toughy.

Thornton - I think we need the extra KPP
Armfield - his speed is invaluable
Ellard - poor last game, but has enough runs on the board to keep his spot
Robinson - love his aggression, but indifferent disposal a worry

ULTIMATELY narrowed it down to Robinson or else not bringing in Laidler. I like Laidler's play so far and always like to see players against their old side. Final choice very tough and I'm not entirely sure which way to go. Perhaps Robbo as a sub? - part game only might suit him? Laidler gives an option down back and far better disposal. Close call - Robbo out.

Yarran Jamison Thornton
Duigan Henderson Russell
Simpson McLean Gibbs
Carrazzo Waite Walker
Betts O'hAilpin Garlett
Warnock Judd Murphy
Armfield Laidler Scotland Ellard


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 12:39 pm 
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There is no way known Robbo will be dropped

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:30 pm 
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Not sure why people want to drop Robbo or play him as the sub.
He deserves full game time in the ones on the back of his recent performances.

Hendo definitely wont come in. Playing well against Frankston doesn't mean much.
If he plays like he has recently he will be a passenger regardless.

I cant see Setanta going out either, has been serviceable, and Hammer hasn't set the world on fire in the twos.

In: McLean, Laidler
Out: Curnow, Joesph.

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:31 pm 
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Henderson could only come in to play KPD. Not performing well enough fwd but is big enough to cover one of their key fwds.

Given Ling is nowhere near as bad as first thought, predicting Geelong will have no change(if there were to be it would prob be a diff sub to come in & Christensen to be in 21)Id go with:
In: McLean, Tuohy & Hendo
Out: Curnow, AJ & Thornton

Tuohy been performing for a month now, goes hard, runs and kicks well, Cats have alot of med fwds to cov
Robbo to defensive fwd on Scarlett

Enright Lonergan Hunt
Garlett Setants Betts

Mackie Taylor Scarlett
Walker Waite Robbo

Stokes Corey Wojcinski
Scotland Ellard Simmo

Chapman Pods Varcoe
Duigan Jamo Yarran

Johnson Hawkins Menzel
Russell Hendo Tuohy

Ottens Selwood Bartel
Warnoick Judd Murph

Kelly Ling Duncan Sub:Christensen
Army Gibbs McLean Sub: Carrots

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:25 pm 
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Looks good Turtle but personally i would stick with Thornton at CHB. I dont mind Henda coming in at CHB but not just yet.

Id swap with Armfield with Carazzo too.


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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:19 pm 
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In: McLean Touhy
Out: Curnow AJ

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