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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:09 am 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Still don't play 4 quarters of solid Good footy
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This season i have only watched one game where a team has come close to playing 4 quarters of solid good football and that was Collingwood v North and that was debatable as North were good early.

The massive shifts of momentum in games this year have been a highlight. Ratts picked it in round 1 and has been proven correct.

Blues have failed to convert as well as they should when they have momentum in all games except the GC game. They will need to work on that to be a threat this year.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:13 am 
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Coaches Votes
Carlton vs Adelaide

10 Murphy (Carl)

8 Judd (Carl)

6 Johncock (Adel)

4 Walker (Carl)

1 Ellard (Carl)

1 Rutten (Adel)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:58 am 
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Stamos wrote:
Coaches Votes
Carlton vs Adelaide

10 Murphy (Carl)

8 Judd (Carl)

6 Johncock (Adel)

4 Walker (Carl)

1 Ellard (Carl)

1 Rutten (Adel)


No love for Dangerfield?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:45 am 
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He should have got votes Buzzah, but what do we know...9 clearances and he was able to burst away from a stoppage on numerous occasions.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:55 am 
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I'm going to watch the match again now.

I didn't think Murphy was that good!

Be back in a bit.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:33 pm 
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Yeah he was pretty good.
Has room for improvement though!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:42 pm 
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Effes wrote:
He should have got votes Buzzah, but what do we know...9 clearances and he was able to burst away from a stoppage on numerous occasions.


Neither coach thought so.
Dangerfield stands out when he does something good, but I'm not sure he had a huge influence on the game, and made some bad mistakes. Only had 9 kicks.
Do free kicks count as clearances?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:48 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Bluemark I feel the same and I will tell you why:

We have only beaten teams below us
We are still making the same stupid mistakes
Still don't play 4 quarters of solid Good footy
Don't have someone to take a strong mark in our forward line when we need it
Still don't have anyone to play on monster forwards
Some players have not taken the next step ie Gibbs, hampson, bower
Still don't regularly win close games
Still don't beat strong quick teams

We need to make a statement over next 4 weeks.


Why is this a problem? The 3 teams above us have only beaten teams below them too.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:18 pm 
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moshe25 wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
Bluemark I feel the same and I will tell you why:

We have only beaten teams below us
We are still making the same stupid mistakes
Still don't play 4 quarters of solid Good footy
Don't have someone to take a strong mark in our forward line when we need it
Still don't have anyone to play on monster forwards
Some players have not taken the next step ie Gibbs, hampson, bower
Still don't regularly win close games
Still don't beat strong quick teams

We need to make a statement over next 4 weeks.


Why is this a problem? The 3 teams above us have only beaten teams below them too.


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Collingwood must be in a world of trouble as they haven't beaten anyone aove them for almost a year!!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:00 pm 
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Hi Guys,

I have only read a few of the comments from the 13 plus pages so forgive me if this has been askeded already.... My question is why and how does Robbo continuously get a game? He has no idea how to kick a drop punt, often misses targets, is very slow and will never ever hold his feet in a contest! What is his role? What value does he bring to the side besides the occassional tackle?? Is he better than Lucas??

Also as mentioned by many already Hammer needs a rest as does Eddie. Another one that should be under the pump is Simon White - he gives up the front possie far too easliy in my opinion. The dilemma is who do you replace these guys with??

Hammer for Sentanta = :?:
Eddie for Thornton = A marking forward option and possible swing backman :yikes:
White for ?? Now that Bower is injured he'll be in for the next month I'm guessing unless Wato gets another chance..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:22 pm 
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Optimum wrote:
I have only read a few of the comments from the 13 plus pages so forgive me if this has been askeded already.... My question is why and how does Robbo continuously get a game? He has no idea how to kick a drop punt, often misses targets, is very slow and will never ever hold his feet in a contest! What is his role? What value does he bring to the side besides the occassional tackle?? Is he better than Lucas??

Robinson is part of the clearance group and is tasked with getting first hands on the footy and dishing it out, or using his sidestep and grunt to work a clearance. He's also used as a release option in midfield due to his ability to mark overhead and hold a contested grab, and as a high half-forward.

Robbo was definitely down last week, but still hauled in quite a few marks. His kicking is not as bad as you describe, he simply has a tendency to get a bit red-blooded when in possession. Once his fitness reaches a good standard over the next 18 months, he will be a big-bodied mid we can rely on to release others from stoppages and create opportunities for them in open play.

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Also as mentioned by many already Hammer needs a rest as does Eddie. Another one that should be under the pump is Simon White - he gives up the front possie far too easliy in my opinion. The dilemma is who do you replace these guys with??

Hammer for Sentanta = :?:
Eddie for Thornton = A marking forward option and possible swing backman :yikes:
White for ?? Now that Bower is injured he'll be in for the next month I'm guessing unless Wato gets another chance..

White and Jamison were splitting time between the tallest forward in the competition in Tippett, and one of the in-form forwards in Taylor Walker. Then there was McKernan bobbing up at 198 cms. Over time we'll develop Watson (196 cms) & McCarthy (197 cms) and they'll come in for White (191 cms). For the time being, White should look better against a noticeably shorter Sydney line-up.

Hampson is doing a great job as second ruck, and is sporadic as the second forward. He's certainly had a tough time up there since round 2, but there has been talk of finger injuries since then. He certainly dislocated his finger in the pre-match run throughs (this was shown on Ten/One's coverage).

I agree that Eddie is looking a bit down on form and he either needs a rest or needs to get on his bike and play midfield in the VFL. Not up to standard in his role at present. I'd rather look at Armfield for him.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:31 pm 
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Thanks Jimmae, you make some very good points... still not too keen on Robbo though. I think Lucas can do the same and more.

I did forget about Army, would be a good inclusion!!


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