White was better. A simple reversal of traditional colours.
Meh whatever, it's the year 2010. As long as we start winning some finals

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We need a matching beanie.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Just whinge whinge flower-ing whinge on here.

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dane's trolling again

I agree.

You're never going to get people agreeing about fashion or colours anyway.

And perhaps I'm not particularly visual, but really who cares. I don't love my club/team any less, just because they wear different colours a few times a year.

+2.

Win the game and no-one will care.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

I reckon it's the best alternative guernsey the club has produced. Our original is still the ultimate in the competition but the sky blue version looks slick enough. Agree with other posters on the shorts being white however. Sky blue shorts are bit nuclear war at the gay bar. That said, any dancing homosexual nuclear scientists wishing to diversify the Carlton legion please purchase a 2011 membership because the back of our wagon reserves a strict 'no passengers' policy unless fully paid up.

So you think if by some insane miracle Carlton managed to get to a grand final against Fremantle or St Kilda (a very odd proposition i know to even consider Carlton getting higher than 5-8th) and that as Carlton was the lesser placed team (ie the other team that made the grand final was higher placed) and therefore we HAD to wear a clash guernsey in the colour of baby blue - everyone would just be overjoyed with the proposition?

It wouldn't matter?

I agree it is much better to just be placid about everything and assume everything will work out in the end- who cares what colour Carlton plays in - it doesn't really matter. "She'lll be right, mate"...is the attitude I like to adopt.

How about we think of it as the clash guernsey in 'winning blue' until we make the GF.
Then...
if someone insists we wear it for the 17th....
we go to war.
have sit ins...
march on AFL House...
etc

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By the way - this is what I think of Carlton's clash strips, but I am overjoyed that Nike is making money out of it though.
THat is fantastic.
I don't care if Fremantle, West Coast, Adelaide or Brisbane wear a thousand clash strips - see I move with the times, I am hip to the lingo, I just don't want to see Carlton in clash strips. I guess Nike has the final say though and as long as people/the public buy that junk./god awful clash guernsey then all is right in the world for nike. the question is - who buys that guernsey...?? why oh why would you do it?

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Norm,

I think the Premiership Cup will read 'Carlton 201? Premiers' not 'Carlton 201? Premiers in the away strip of light blue'.

I go to watch Kruz and Juddy for what they can do on the field not how they are dressed. I actually think the jumper still make us stand out from the AFL crowd and is an easily recognisable marketing tool. Move into the 21st Century Norm. Things have moved on a tad since 1979.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Its the M&M jumper from 97

White jumper. Navy Blue monogram. Our best away strip. Italy and France both use whilte as their away strip in soccer and rugby. Insipid my arse...it's classy

But hey, all I care about is winning more than 2 consecutive games in '11...........................................................oh! and a gameplan

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

The comments highlighted are unnecessary and not relevant as an argument for the baby blue jumper and against the appeal of the traditional Dark Navy Blue. Irrelevant and can't be quantified.

Recognizable marketing tool?: there's positive campaigns and negative campaigns. The negative campaigns are the ones' that don't work, yet they are all marketing campaigns.

If you are suggesting that the Baby Blue will be positive for our marketing campaigns moreso than using our traditional and most favoured (by the football community), then I'd love to hear how and why?

Now as a marketing "tool"...the same applies.

Sorry Cazz, but I don't think anyone can say that those who prefer the Dark Navy Blue jumper are not with the times. Irrelevant.
I know you're not DeBono and I know you're not a well known fashion guru, and I don't know what you're trying to say here TBH, but I do believe you're clutching at straws with your argument for the baby blue jumper. Ie you're not at all convincing with the highlighted statement in support of the baby blues.

The baby blue jumper doesn't look good; that's the reality and the reason for the angst and disappointment.
Now compared to the Dark Navy Blue, I don't even have to run a poll to determine which of the 2 jumpers is more attractive to the majority, and... shouldn't the people's preference/ market determine which is the better tool, jumper or campaign?

Finally, if you enjoy watching Kreuzer and Judd, I bet you believe they look better running around in the Dark Navy Blue jumper as opposed to teh Baby Blue jumper.

I remember the shit load of $$ we made with the one off M&M's jumper, and if this new baby blue jumper erodes our $8M debt then that's another story. I know it wont.

Is there anyone who prefers the Baby Blue jumper over the Dark Navy Blue jumper?

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

So Carlton to you isn't anything to do with the guernsey - it is who is playing at the time?

and as long as whoever plays on that day - whether they play in pink or blue - is called Carlton then all is ok. They engrave the name Carlton in the cup - so that is all that matters.



The players today don't represent a heritage they just represent 20 blokes that some bloke picked out at draft camp in November of each year.

Move with the times, eh?
If you disagree with anything the catchphrase is you should "move with the times". It is the classic one to fall back on.


I disagree with big business dictating to sporting clubs how they should appear to the public...but I guess I must be an odd fuddy duddy not "moving with the times"

I disagree with bank executives getting 25 million a year at the same time as laying off 100 employees, but i guess i must be an odd fuddy duddy not "moving with the times"

I disagree with Kyle Sandilands and Guy Sebastian being on tv anytime, anywhere, but i guess I must be an odd fuddy duddy not "moving with the times"

point accepted- I am just not "moving with the times".

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

I think it is unanimous we all prefer the standard dark blue jumper but the AFL is now about more than that simple concept. The VFL is long, long gone and whether you agree or not coming into the 21st century of advertising, multi media, merchandising, sponsorship and attracting a young audience is what it is all about.

Bright and shiny attracts. Vivid colours attract.

Those that don't want an away strip are probably broken into two camps.

1. Those that just don't like change at all regardless of the reason.
2. Those that are peeved because Carlton has come up with an away strip and Collingwood have gotten away with not doing it. Those want Sticks to say 'up yours Andrew' like Eddie has done.

The argument for the Baby Blue is based on the simple fact that Carlton has agreed to find an away strip because the AFL has asked us to.
The colour is bright and vivid and different to most because the club wanted it to be eyecatching for the younger generation, not the over 40's. You attract more members in many ways but one of the ways is to catch the eye of the young who hopefully want to get involved and join.

I doubt there would be many over 40's who have said today.....'I'm not buying a membership because I hate the new away strip'.

I guess the only way the club will know if the exercise has worked is via sales and memberships. Tradition is great and I am all for it but the AFL is a multi, multi, multi million dollar enterprise and everyone has to move with the times or they run the risk of being left behind.

I admit that if I had the choice I would love the status quo to remain, but it just isn't going to happen under the reign of the current AFL heavy weights.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Sorry Norm but sadly this image is the equivilent of an AFL Club trying to buck the AFL system.



It is noble but the fact is that ultimately heavy things crush you to bits.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Why is Collingwood the most popular club in the competition amongst all age groups (including the young)if they don't "move with the times" and have gawd-awful clash jumpers as well?

Can you explain this?

Wouldn't they make a lot of money by selling their heritage down the toilet as well?

All we need are bright and vivid colours.. well it will be great when they play in pink. That is bright and vivid...surely.

Your complete faith in marketing executives is a bit odd...but I guess cause it works in the UK it must work just as well over here. Nike knows how markets work after all. It is all about pointless consumerism in the end - and Carlton is just a product, no better or worse than a pot of Walls ice-cream.