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 Post subject: Re: Delistings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:36 pm 
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Yes he is. His kicking skills are such that he could pinch hit forward as well. His pre-season is huge. As far as I'm concerned, next to Kreuzer it's the biggest at the club. RO'K has a good one and backs it up in the practise matches, it gives us really good flexibility with where other guys play. Lucas, Laidler, Russell, Gibbs etc.


Doc, if you were to compare or liken RoK's playing style, technique, demeanour and skill to a current AFL player/s would they be.

Just curious as ive seen SFA like many of us.

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He is very much like a taller version of Josh Hunt. He's a big boy (tall and solid) and has worked hard on his fitness. Saw him training before the finals and he has really lost the puppy fat he had. Could of played but deliberately rested for 2011. Over the past 2 years I have seen him play some great football but only in patches.

Needs to stay fit.

The kid is fearless and if he can stay on the ground will definitely play AFL in 2011 and if he does we will be a much better side.

One impressive part of O'Keefe is his kicking penetration. He kicks it 60m easily and not only hits a target but gets it there quick. This is an important commodity in modern football and with guys like he, Laidler, Touhy, Yarran running from defence with their kicking ability it will really help us breakdown the opposition zones and create realistic opportunities for our forwards! :smoking:

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 Post subject: Re: Delistings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:45 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Blue Blood Believer wrote:
Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
Yes he is. His kicking skills are such that he could pinch hit forward as well. His pre-season is huge. As far as I'm concerned, next to Kreuzer it's the biggest at the club. RO'K has a good one and backs it up in the practise matches, it gives us really good flexibility with where other guys play. Lucas, Laidler, Russell, Gibbs etc.


Doc, if you were to compare or liken RoK's playing style, technique, demeanour and skill to a current AFL player/s would they be.

Just curious as ive seen SFA like many of us.

Cheers



He is very much like a taller version of Josh Hunt. He's a big boy (tall and solid) and has worked hard on his fitness. Saw him training before the finals and he has really lost the puppy fat he had. Could of played but deliberately rested for 2011. Over the past 2 years I have seen him play some great football but only in patches.

Needs to stay fit.

The kid is fearless and if he can stay on the ground will definitely play AFL in 2011 and if he does we will be a much better side.

One impressive part of O'Keefe is his kicking penetration. He kicks it 60m easily and not only hits a target but gets it there quick. This is an important commodity in modern football and with guys like he, Laidler, Touhy, Yarran running from defence with their kicking ability it will really help us breakdown the opposition zones and create realistic opportunities for our forwards! :smoking:
Thanks for that Psych :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:05 pm 
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Great news anyway.

I still think Joey has something to offer, just needs time, confidence and opportunity.

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 Post subject: Re: Delistings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:14 pm 
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MonstaBlue wrote:
You'll find that Donaldson has to be kept. He was from WA and all interstate rookies get two years


To my knowledge, that's not in the current CBA. Interstate rookies are merely entitled to be reimbursed for the reasonable removalists costs and economy class air fare/other travel costs for themselves and on occassion throughout the year, their family. It probably adds up to around an extra $10-15k or so extra than a kid rookied from their home city.

If you can find that clause though - i'd be more than interested to know where it is.


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 Post subject: Re: Delistings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:15 pm 
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...and I concur with Psych on Rhys...but I think we're biased.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:46 pm 
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For those suggesting O'Keeffe as a chance I would recommend reading the TalkingPlayers thread and take in some views of those who have watched abit of him. He cries out 'natural footballer' and has a brilliant kick on him - big Josh Hunt is one phrase that works well.

For those worried about durability given his lack of game time at VFL level in his 2 years, I'd just like you to consider that sometimes it takes a young man a while to get used to a very large frame when you begin relatively small. He's a tank but with great skill - definitely the type to give extra time to.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:27 pm 
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anderson-just not good enough gets caught to often doesnt keep his feet enough
thornton-doesnt want to play for us(hasnt wanted to since he tried to get to the hawks)sook
johnson-good vfl player not enough tricks 4 the big time
ohailpin-always loved the way he gave us 100%but now he wants to go lost my respect becsuse he obviously cant be 100% comitted
fisher-not his fault too many injuries but wouldnt be unhappy to see him get 1 more year
wiggins-retired
tiller-dont know havent seen much
must get another chance
okeefe
austin
browne

gone next year
houlihan
walker(will do a grigg)
mclean(i know give him a chance blah blah blah)a spud is a spud


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 Post subject: Re: Delistings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:33 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Blue Blood Believer wrote:
Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
Yes he is. His kicking skills are such that he could pinch hit forward as well. His pre-season is huge. As far as I'm concerned, next to Kreuzer it's the biggest at the club. RO'K has a good one and backs it up in the practise matches, it gives us really good flexibility with where other guys play. Lucas, Laidler, Russell, Gibbs etc.


Doc, if you were to compare or liken RoK's playing style, technique, demeanour and skill to a current AFL player/s would they be.

Just curious as ive seen SFA like many of us.

Cheers



He is very much like a taller version of Josh Hunt. He's a big boy (tall and solid) and has worked hard on his fitness. Saw him training before the finals and he has really lost the puppy fat he had. Could of played but deliberately rested for 2011. Over the past 2 years I have seen him play some great football but only in patches.

Needs to stay fit.

The kid is fearless and if he can stay on the ground will definitely play AFL in 2011 and if he does we will be a much better side.

One impressive part of O'Keefe is his kicking penetration. He kicks it 60m easily and not only hits a target but gets it there quick. This is an important commodity in modern football and with guys like he, Laidler, Touhy, Yarran running from defence with their kicking ability it will really help us breakdown the opposition zones and create realistic opportunities for our forwards! :smoking:


Really like the sound of this :thumbsup:

Inspired me to dredge this up from BF


"Quigley: O’Keefe (DOB – 8/8/90, Ht – 187, Wt – 80)
Whereas you often have guys on Big Footy who become flavour of the month and are pumped up a lot more than is realistic there are others who are overlooked by most for no apparent reason. O’Keefe falls squarely into the latter category. You read the player reviews and I am yet to see a bad thing written about him and yet no-one has him going earlier than the late second round. For me I think he could easily be a sneaky late first rounder. Played predominantly on the half back flank in the Champs but moved to half forward against NSW and showed that he could also be a very dangerous half forward at AFL level. The thing that sets O’Keefe apart from virtually everyone in this draft is the quality of his disposal. He is probably in the top 5 for me as far as quality of disposal goes. He is a left footer who reads the play very well and delivers into the 50 as well as anyone available this year. He has good height for a midfield / flanker and is a solid young guy. He covers a fair bit of ground and although he does not have great pace he seems to be able to create separation from his match up fairly easily. He has good hands including overhead and can take a good mark. His quality kicking skills extend to his kicking for goal."

So he's basically Luke Hodge with a right foot :donk:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:33 pm 
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molly23 wrote:
gone next year
mclean(i know give him a chance blah blah blah)a spud is a spud

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Who needs dissenting players when you have dyspeptic supporters?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:44 pm 
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Kouta wrote:
molly23 wrote:
gone next year
mclean(i know give him a chance blah blah blah)a spud is a spud

:roll:

Who needs dissenting players when you have dyspeptic supporters?


whats that supposed to mean?
i dont see what digestion has to do with anything.
whats your problem? cant i have an opinion different to yours or do i have to be
unrealistic like you and say that all our players are stars.
i see players for what they are some champs(captain) others spuds(mclean)
and in future dont get personal,if you disagree make an argument for him instead of trying to use big words. (just being personal for the tit for tat thing .u get it?)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:47 pm 
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3 players to be delisted

Tiller, Browne & Fisher

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:57 pm 
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molly23 wrote:
Kouta wrote:
molly23 wrote:
gone next year
mclean(i know give him a chance blah blah blah)a spud is a spud

:roll:

Who needs dissenting players when you have dyspeptic supporters?


whats that supposed to mean?
i dont see what digestion has to do with anything.
whats your problem? cant i have an opinion different to yours or do i have to be
unrealistic like you and say that all our players are stars.
i see players for what they are some champs(captain) others spuds(mclean)
and in future dont get personal,if you disagree make an argument for him instead of trying to use big words. ok fwit(just being personal for the tit for tat thing .u get it?)


Kouta made the mistake of taking the bait.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:03 pm 
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Kouta made the mistake of taking the bait.[/quote]
i dont bait anyone champ i just like to tell it the way i see it i dont wear rose coloured glasses


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:08 pm 
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You honestly believe Brock McLean will be de-listed next year?
What do you base this on?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:09 pm 
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Hotcox wrote:
3 players to be delisted

Tiller, Browne & Fisher


Going to need to be more than that sweetheart.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:22 pm 
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dane wrote:
You honestly believe Brock McLean will be de-listed next year?
What do you base this on?


no i dont believe he will in fact im sure he wont be,im saying i think he should.
the club made a mistake plenty have before(woewodin comes to mind)


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 Post subject: Re: Delistings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:30 pm 
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That would leave team line-ups (given Rattens comments that Collins and Laidler will play 44 games next year) as something like:

Armfield Jamison Bower
Laidler O'hAilpin Russell
Simpson Judd Walker (switching with Waite at FF)
Garlett Henderson Yarran
Kreuzer Waite Betts
Warnock Gibbs Murphy (starting on wing at centre bounces with
Carrazzo Collins Lucas Scotland Walker/Waite going into middle
to supply bigger body)

and excluding Bullants-listed players

Tuohy O'keeffe? Davies
Anderson? Austin? Dare
Houlihan McLean Joseph
Kerr Thornton Robinson
Casboult White Cacchia
Hampson Hadley? Ellard
Donaldson?? Tiller?? NEWBIES[/quote]


In the rose coloured pre-season glow of 2010 i thought we had pretty good depth: some poor luck, injuries and some poor coaching meant we didn't develop any where near as much as we could have.
But if Ianh is correct (and everybody improves!) then we have significantly added to our depth.
I think the club has been much smarter in the past month and it seems we all mostly agree on who should go.
When's the first game?!


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 Post subject: Re: Delistings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:46 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5RKOgAAIjY

I remember seeing the draft video on this kid a while back so I've dug it up again.

His kicking skills are sublime (he barely misses a target in that video) - if fit and in the 22 his kicking skills would be the best in our side IMO - yes better than Gibbs and Houlihan.

The left boot on him is seriously Josh Drummondesque and I love the fact that he is left - footed. For a long time I have been saying that we don't have enough and I think it's an important issue to address - Hawthorn 08 ring a bell?. (Only Knockers, Simpson and now Laidler (Scotland and Yarran admittedly very dual sided but still right footers) off the top of my head that are left footers in the supposed 22)

O'Keeffe could be the perfect half/back winger in the Josh Drummond mould and IMO getting him on the field would instantly solve our kick-in issues - I'm sure Ratts is already aware of this.

He seems the perfect release player too - Hendo marks 55 out on the angle, O'Keeffe runs around the back to receive the handball and boom sinks it ala Goddard and Harry O'Brien. This is not a play that we employ much but a guy with Rhys' boot would allow us too.

Don't mean to be getting too carried away I just see the potential in this guy based on his left foot alone.

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 Post subject: Re: Delistings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:50 pm 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
...and I concur with Psych on Rhys...but I think we're biased.


Bit of man-love happening around here ...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:56 pm 
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molly23 wrote:
dane wrote:
You honestly believe Brock McLean will be de-listed next year?
What do you base this on?


no i dont believe he will in fact im sure he wont be,im saying i think he should.
the club made a mistake plenty have before(woewodin comes to mind)


Cant argue with that analysis!

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