BV when others have expressed no confidence in BR, you've been critical. Why have you changed your tune?

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

and holler out/text/email "yes" to everything he says

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Don't think BV's ever been a Ratts supporter prelim - best I can remember BV thought he'd make a good development coach but not the main coach.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

If this is the case, we really are a basket case. Now that we have him, hopefully he can 'bring something to the table'

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

If that's the case DB, I defer to your elevated knowledge on the subject....and while I'm at it, an apology to BV.
Anyway FWIW, I would love nothing more than Ratts to surround himself with experience and tactical nous, realise that good leaders bring together complementary skill sets and kick arse in 2011. Do I believe that Ratts is secure enough in himself to do this? Probably not but please Ratts, prove me wrong!!!!!!!!!

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

OK..I see where you're coming from.

Take a breather...it's BF...and that means reactive...and the blame game with the vicious cycle that goes wioth it.

The coach of THAT team...you know, Clarkson, takes full responsibility for not moving on from the successful 2008 rolling zone. He didn't blame Barker, Franklin or Roughead for the terrible efforts of the midfield....neither did Jeff Kennett.

If the ball doesn't get into the forwardline in the first place, how can the Forward Coach be responsible for the terrible firt half of 2010?

That's Clarkson's fault imo..he openly admitted that. It wasn't a Forwardline issue that was the problem with the Hawks in the first half of 2010.

I notice that when they got their midfield strategy sorted they won against the Tigers who were at the beginning of their winning cusp and a week later they demolished the Blues on the scorboard. In that game not one Hawks defender kicked a score ...so you can't give credit to the defensive coach in that game.

Whatever you want to think of Barker doesn't matter because he is a wanted man, and he gets a gig every couple of years because he has options...other clubs know what he has to offer, hence his continued trnure as a forwards coach.

You should ask what Roughy, Franklin, Rioli and co have to say about Barker; great motivator, makes them think about their game, the opposition and how the delivery is likely to be....he gets them thinking and making things happen.

I never take notice of opinions on BF, TC or CSC; that's entertainment.
But when footballers and those who know people in high footy places say things about those in the industry, my ears prick up every time.

Every one is entiltled to their opinion: viva la democrace.

Who should be our forwardline coach instead of Barker? That's the BIG question.

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What is this all about?

I'm happy for Ratts to be criticised but only for the area he's responsible for. Too often I see posters criticise Ratten for the players poor efforts or lack of intensity. The players are responsible for their own motivation and willingness to compete. They are professional athletes.
I also get frustrated with the call for a "plan B". AFAIC, there is no "Plan A" or "Plan B". There are minor tactics that are taken into games but 99% of the game is based on the instinctive actions of the players. Those instincts are developed by repetitive game sense training that eventually allows the players to make good decisions without thinking about it. The good teams make good decisions more than the poor teams.


IMHO, Ratts is fantastic with his training structures and his game sense training is exceptional. That's what would make him a fantastic development coach. He understands the methodology of developing the decision making of players and how to transpose that into the training regime.

Unfortunately a senior coach needs far more. He is the clubs representative with the members, media and other industry groups. In these areas he falls down badly. I'm going to give a harsh assessment here but IMO he lacks the intelligence and sophistication required to represent a large organisation to the standard required. Ratts is a good suburban bloke who is out of his depth in too many areas. Compare him to a young coach like Brad Scott and he's miles off the pace.
But hey, that's just my opinion.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

So Barker is officially an AC is he? Can't find the link on the Carlton website?

Is he eligible for the NRS?..........

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

Hopefully he's a success and we're lauding a great decision by the club in 2 years time.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

HUN today has Montgomery possibly going to the Doggies and Lappin has been linked to Collingwood.

Hope so.

Get Richardson from Dons. Should want out after being overlooked.

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The climbing has alread began

As much as i have loathed this guy for years, I actually wouldn't mind seeing Mark Chocco Williames as an assistant to Ratten.

Sure, his a knob, but he's taken Port to some great success over the years and he's still quite young-ish (what i mean by that is, he's still hungry to be involved in footy).

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Sometimes I thik Choco would be ok, but mostly I think he's a cocky smart arse ad maybe even a bit lazy.

I reckon he's got a big footy brain, but I'm sure about how he'd go as second banana.

Dean Laidley's got a good footy brain as well and I think he's got the sort of intensity we need.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

True, i agree, but I'd take Chocco over Laidley mainly to to the success he brings with him.

Laidley does not.

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

Ratten & Chocco are pretty much cut from the same mould-Good motivaters of men but both are tactically poor, and history suggests both men as coaches struggle with the concept of changing structures & systems during the heat of matchday battle.

Port Adelaide last premership had more to do with the way Clarkson & Bailey set the teams structures up than the apparent influence Williams had on the group.

Laidley has the charisma of a dead fish but credit must be given for his football brain- he has an astute ability to devise
game plans/systems & structures which is exactly what our coaching team lacked this year in my humble opinion.

Can confirm Emma Quayle for The Age cited Montgomery at the Combine in a Bulldogs shirt.

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And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
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Chocco's strength is supposedly his ability to teach, and highly regarded for his work with youngsters.
Laidley and Chocco might offer something different and both be great inclusions.