Watched on tv.
IMO it was Sauce who set up the win and is my BOG. Thornton grew in confidence and influence the longer the game went but we really were on top. He played like he did end 2009 - but this is a different level. If White was healthy I reckon he wuld be way ahead of Thornton, although he can still play a role as the 3rd tall floating if he learns to attack up the guts (like Jamo is trying to teach himself). We've got quite a few very good VFL players on our senior list!

Don't be so hard on yourself. It's not horrible. Sometimes your brain just doesn't work as well as you want it to.

Just the other day, I couldn't think of a word that was on the tip of my tongue. But once I relaxed, it came to me. (btw, that word was "hyperbole", if you're interested).

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

If Thornton isn't conducive to today's football then how the hell is Jamo more suited? Thornton actually uses the ball well and attacks the footy. He is prepared to come off his man and take marks and create a link off half back. Jamo gets very few possessions and is ineffective with them anyway.

In relation to Davies, I think he shows some positive signs however in the heat of battle last night he was taken off the ground and we had to send Henderson to defence in that last quarter. Not sure how this will work next week with Goodes, White and a resting ruckman pushing forward to expose the lack of a 3rd tall defender.

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Exactly, people keep pointing to Thornton's weaknesses but the facts are, Jamo and Bower are weaker in the same areas ATM!!

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I think White will be the resting ruck man based on last nights game.

After watching T-Birds game against the filth's 2nd's i believe he deserves a recall.

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Thornton might have a good disposal efficiency but he does not use the ball well. His sideways and hesitant style of play allows the opposition time to flood upfield making it doubly difficult to go forward.
I agree he is good at reading the incoming opposition attack and being the 3rd man up but you need more tricks in your bag to be an effective AFL level player.

Jamo has struggled this year but the last few weeks he has shown positive signs IMO. He has only played 56 games so has plenty of upside and development left in him.

We need to keep building with our young guys and get valuable (finals) experience into them and think long term.

All of the above

agree 100%

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Always thought thorntons only value would be as a full back but Jamo was better at that so he was not of use to us. At the minute Jamo is out of touch. THornton looks in touch so the only way i would bring in Thornton would be to play full back in place of jamison. Further up the ground he plays too safe and holds on to the ball for that split second too long.

Not sure he is in the good books with the coaches either so he may be copping a punishment that will set an example to the younger players coming through. If that is the case then good.

Sure .. bring him back ... give Fisher his 100th game to ... it won't matter ... we have no chance of beating Sydney in Sydney. We are a poorly skilled team and it will take several years of good recruiting to get us to into the A-Grade.

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Well, that's that then ...

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For the last two weeks Bower has been BOG for the other team! Bring back Thornton, he has had so many loses, he will play his guts out and not give it straight to the opposition as Bowe has done consistently.

C'mon Kenny spill the beans.............................

I didn't watch the reserves but he should be in as he didn't deserve to be dropped in the first place.

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..who knows, those years of smashings where he was the lone hand down back may have scarred him.. ..i think he has the qualities to play, but he does seem to play too 'safe', and the sideways/backwards little chip kicks drive my batty.... ..However, it still creeps into our defensive play, those little chip kicks that go nowhere and Thorny hasn't played is ages.. ..so it's not like we're all that much quicker with him out.. ..aside from Army, who almost always is a player that will run and carry, not many of our defenders do.. ..Rusty tries, but sometimes his opponent drags him deep.. ..the Gibblet isn't exactly a run and carry type.. ..Walker used to, but he's in and out anyway, and hasnt been that run and carry player for us since he did his collarbone.. ..bower likes to run, but so do chickens sans their heads..

..what i dont understand, is why other teams have plans in place for their defensive stoppers and we dont.. ..not all teams have a bunch of run and carry defenders.. ..usually only one or two..but their defensive stoppers know to quickly offload to their run and carry defenders...these types in turn, know to run off their man as soon as the stopper takes possession.. ..why cant we do that for torny and/or jamo.?

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You're a smart arse moshe!

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Can't say I'm much of a Thorton fan, but ... if the reason he's not playing is because of personal issues with
the coach then they need to grow up and sort it out.

Bring him back for Bower. Or Davies.

Developing kids is all well and good, but I'd rather win this game and have a massive final at the MCG, which would be a development opportunity for the whole squad.

Davies is promising but not at the required level yet. Bower is a disaster right now. You might not like what Thornton brings to the table, but at least you know what he's going to bring, and he rarely makes egregious errors.

I'd be bringing in Walker and Thornton for Davies and Bower. It won't happen, but that's what I'd do.

T-Bird has to play this week. It might even free up Gibbs.

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