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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:40 pm 
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There seems to be some untouchables in our team I think.

How AJ keeps getting games despite a low possession count and being beaten by his direct opponent bemuses me.

I must not understand Carrazzo's role in the past few weeks either because I had him in my "outs" this week.

It seems every few weeks the MC make a "statement" which is to omit Robinson, which again bemuses me. I have not been as hugley excited by him as other posters in the past but thought he worked pretty hard last week and took soem good marks under pressure, which were oh so rare.

Happy with all the ins though. CJ was good before the injury, particularly in the Port game where his intensity in a couple of contests just before 1/4 time seemed to wake teh rest of the team up in terms of teh physical commitment required.

Warnock will be ok, and suits the bigger ground more than Jacobs.

Ellard simply deserves his place based on all reports so well done.

Come on Blues, we just have to win this one!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:42 pm 
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coryne wrote:
CARLTON
Backs: D. Ellard, M. Jamison, P. Bower
Half Backs: J. Russell, J. Waite, B. Gibbs
Centres: C. Yarran, C. Judd, H. Scotland
Half Forwards: M. Murphy, L. Henderson, K. Simpson
Forwards: J. Garlett, S. Hampson, E. Betts
Followers: R. Warnock, W. Walker, A. Joseph
Interchange: D. Armfield, A. Carrazzo, S. Grigg, C. Johnson
Emergencies: M. Davies, R. Hadley, M. Robinson

In: D. Ellard, C. Johnson, R. Warnock
Out: S. Jacobs (omitted), K. Lucas (hamstring), M. Robinson (omitted)


Good to see Ellard named on the field. Not sure why Hampson is in at FF ............... And as mentioned above, Hadley is the only bloke why flew over with the team as an emergency ...........


Good to see a team selected with the future in mind. Lets hope they dont let the MC down and put in a good effort for the whole game at the very least.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:44 pm 
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AJ became a very good attacking tagger; and then became so defensive, he forgot the basics of getting the ball.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:44 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:45 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
typical carlton - after such a pathetic performance only two changes - and both two of the very few that bust their guts!!!

west coast by five and us closer to the realistaion that something drastic needs to be done.


Robbo will bust his gut every week, but he needs to learn about playing smart team football. He doesn't heed coaches or teammates advice and hence has to go back to the Bullants to prove that he can do what's expected. That's the way it works.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:46 pm 
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West Coast
B: Will Schofield, Eric MacKenzie, Brad Sheppard
HB: Beau Waters, Mitchell Brown, Shannon Hurn
C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley
HF: Andrew Strijk, Josh Kennedy, Brad Ebert
F: Dean Cox, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Foll: Nic Naitanui, Adam Selwood, Chris Masten
I/C: Ashton Hams, Scott Selwood, Ashley Smith, Lewis Stevenson
Emg: Tim Houlihan, Patrick McGinnity, Callum Wilson

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:49 pm 
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chubbyruss wrote:
West Coast
B: Will Schofield, Eric MacKenzie, Brad Sheppard
HB: Beau Waters, Mitchell Brown, Shannon Hurn
C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley
HF: Andrew Strijk, Josh Kennedy, Brad Ebert
F: Dean Cox, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Foll: Nic Naitanui, Adam Selwood, Chris Masten
I/C: Ashton Hams, Scott Selwood, Ashley Smith, Lewis Stevenson
Emg: Tim Houlihan, Patrick McGinnity, Callum Wilson



If they get enough supply into their fwd 50 they will run us ragged...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:53 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
chubbyruss wrote:
West Coast
B: Will Schofield, Eric MacKenzie, Brad Sheppard
HB: Beau Waters, Mitchell Brown, Shannon Hurn
C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley
HF: Andrew Strijk, Josh Kennedy, Brad Ebert
F: Dean Cox, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Foll: Nic Naitanui, Adam Selwood, Chris Masten
I/C: Ashton Hams, Scott Selwood, Ashley Smith, Lewis Stevenson
Emg: Tim Houlihan, Patrick McGinnity, Callum Wilson



If they get enough supply into their fwd 50 they will run us ragged...

With all their quick players who can't hit a target? :confused: :donk:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:57 pm 
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Jacobs stiff.

Shows the lack of depth at the Club. 4 losses from 5, and still no swinging of the axe. No one really to bring in.

We can't promote Kreuzer, Lucas, White, Houlihan and Austin if they're not match fit.

Robinson need to go back to work on his game and endurance.

I think Wayne Johnston and Bruce Doull played a heap of reserves footy before they made it.

Possibly isn't suited to a large ground like Subiaco.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:59 pm 
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Warnock for Jacobs
Joke
Warnock was useless Sat night
Saw it first hand. So did others
Jacobs i feel sorry for.
Hasnt been the worst
So curl up infront of the fire with a nice glass of red and watch another spud run around for the blues
This selection is unbelievable in the extreme


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:59 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:59 pm 
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coryne wrote:
CARLTON
Backs: D. Ellard, M. Jamison, P. Bower
Half Backs: J. Russell, J. Waite, B. Gibbs
Centres: C. Yarran, C. Judd, H. Scotland
Half Forwards: M. Murphy, L. Henderson, K. Simpson
Forwards: J. Garlett, S. Hampson, E. Betts
Followers: R. Warnock, W. Walker, A. Joseph
Interchange: D. Armfield, A. Carrazzo, S. Grigg, C. Johnson
Emergencies: M. Davies, R. Hadley, M. Robinson

In: D. Ellard, C. Johnson, R. Warnock
Out: S. Jacobs (omitted), K. Lucas (hamstring), M. Robinson (omitted)


Good to see Ellard named on the field. Not sure why Hampson is in at FF ............... And as mentioned above, Hadley is the only bloke why flew over with the team as an emergency ...........


I expected Jacobs and Lucas out and any of Joseph, Jamison, Grigg and even Carrazzo such was their form.

With their 3 talls in the forwardline, as mentioned the shortest being Kennedy at 197cm, I thought we'd retain Jamison and bring in Thornton to defend them.

Not surprised that Hammer is at FF, he was one of our shining lights last week. But if one of our talls is injured (ie Warnock, Hampson, Waite, Jamison or Bower) we will most likely be disadvantaged with the match ups or we will be advantaged on the big ground having 5 smalls in the forwardline.

I would have preferred either Thornton or Setanta/ Fisher back to allow Waite to play forward or one of the other 2 mentioned and Hammer and Warnock could rotate between ruck, KPF and IC.

It's a big ground and our bench is chocker full of runners which is a good thing.

Despite the fact I've lost all confidence backing this side, I have a feeling we will find enough goals to win and with Waite in the backline (which I consider a luxury) our backline does look to have stiffened up given the form of Jamison and the lack of support recently from the backline. Lets hope Hammers last week's last quarter form continues. A bit rough on Warnock and Hammer if they are expected to be on the gorund for the whole game. Both players have not really been conditioned to play 4 quarters of senior footy; that's the risk there.

I hope Ratts' plans work for him this week because he's up against a more experienced coach.
Please make sure their forwardline isn't allowed to conduct itself with favourable mismatches (ala last week Shaw vs Joseph). Please keep Le Cras quiet, and I do not feel Ellard is tall enough for him, so I wonder who'll get LeCras. Hopefully it's not Joseph eiother and I'm predicting it will be either Russell or Armfield.

I'll say this (and it's my opinion only) there's a lot of reputations on the line and also some spots in the team, particularly Jamison and Joseph's.

I'm expecting Bower and Hammer to improve with another game under their belt and with Waite back there, Bower should go really well.

We have enough WA supporters over there (19th man), and a bunch of ex WA players in our team this week so it feels like a home game and we should get over the line: Judd, Warnock (played there) and Ellard, Bower, Betts, Garlett, Yarran and Armfield (all born and bred). That's 8 of our 22.

I want the 4 points, but a bit of a boost in % would be good too.

Go Blues. 40 point win.



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:05 pm 
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Kouta wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
chubbyruss wrote:
West Coast
B: Will Schofield, Eric MacKenzie, Brad Sheppard
HB: Beau Waters, Mitchell Brown, Shannon Hurn
C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley
HF: Andrew Strijk, Josh Kennedy, Brad Ebert
F: Dean Cox, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Foll: Nic Naitanui, Adam Selwood, Chris Masten
I/C: Ashton Hams, Scott Selwood, Ashley Smith, Lewis Stevenson
Emg: Tim Houlihan, Patrick McGinnity, Callum Wilson



If they get enough supply into their fwd 50 they will run us ragged...

With all their quick players who can't hit a target? :confused: :donk:


Sorry what i meant to write was if WE can get enough supply into our fwd 50 we will run them ragged with our quick players who can't hit a target.... :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:06 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
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AJ must be playing to instruction...i.e. get minimal disposals....make sure ur opponent does well and don't forget to be lazy and un disciplined... :thumbsup:


Name his last 4 opponents


Have you seen AJ live the last 6 weeks???


Every match he's ever played in Melbourne
last 4?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:08 pm 
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choo wrote:
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Name his last 4 opponents


Have you seen AJ live the last 6 weeks???


Every match he's ever played in Melbourne
last 4?


Great. What areas of his game have impressed you?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:14 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Warnock for Jacobs
Joke
Warnock was useless Sat night
Saw it first hand. So did others
Jacobs i feel sorry for.
Hasnt been the worst
So curl up infront of the fire with a nice glass of red and watch another spud run around for the blues
This selection is unbelievable in the extreme


What would have been unbearable is watching Sauce get jumped all over by Cox and Nic Nat. They both played as well as they have for the WCE for 2 months, so it makes sense to bring in a guy who can might win 50% of the taps.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:24 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Warnock for Jacobs
Joke
Warnock was useless Sat night
Saw it first hand. So did others
Jacobs i feel sorry for.
Hasnt been the worst
So curl up infront of the fire with a nice glass of red and watch another spud run around for the blues
This selection is unbelievable in the extreme


Happy about Ellard, keogh?

Perhaps Sauce is tiring, which is why 206 is in.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:27 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Great. What areas of his game have impressed you?


Not being beaten by his opponent
he has become too defensive
but at least he is one of the few who knows his opponent is

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:31 pm 
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Good to see Jacobs out, His taps are atrocious..

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:31 pm 
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choo wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Great. What areas of his game have impressed you?


Not being beaten by his opponent
he has become too defensive
but at least he is one of the few who knows his opponent is


I guess we look at the same picture and see entirely different things....I see him as being very undisciplined...having no impact on games in terms of disposal....and not necessarily beating his opponent...whether he knows his opponent or not I am not privy to... :wink: :razz:

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