Make a stand. Challenge it.

on one hand we complain we have not mongrel in hte team. on the other we get stuck into a bloke who does.

waite has been unlucky with two of the three reports.

hawks had loads of suspensions during 2008.

we can win games without waite. we have shown that.

all is not lost.

Yeah, club29 is right. If anything we lack a bit of mongrel in the team. I thought it was really stiff to get two weeks. The Freo player was running towards one of our blokes who had the ball. What was he supposed to do? Let him keep running at him? He didn't do anything wrong.

It's a shame to see him go as he's a handy player, but as we've proven earlier this year we can win without him.

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WTF Carrots getting suspended. He was flowering pushed into the umpires path! Unbelivable

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I thought he just got fined?

AFL website;

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Oops sorry WTF Carrots getting fined! He was pushed into the umpires path!!!!

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The Club's decided to accept the 2 match suspension for JW.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/96748/default.aspx

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Wrong kind of mongrel aimed at wrong player. He should have got 2 weeks for sending McPhee into next week. At least then it would have sent a message regarding players targeting Judd.

Waitey needs to give up the hip and shoulder, given the AFL's stance on head high contact. With his height, he's gonna cop a few blokes high even if unintentional. You can learn to shepherd without hip and shoulder.

Buddy has the same problem. Haven't a few other clubs basically instructed their players not to use the bump ? (Filth ?).

problem in this case is Waite couldn't tackle so his option is to let the Freo player run past and pressure our ball carrier

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i reckon waitey deserved 2 weeks, u cant bumop off the ball like that anymore and the players know it so dont know what we are complaining about, and with judd we are so lucky, be grateful boys

Seemed a bit soft but Waite had other options.
He was pretty far off the ball for starters and was thus not really a danger to our guy. He could also have shepparded in the more traditional way, spreading arms etc... and, even if he decided to go ahead and apply a robust bump/block, he could have done so without hitting the head.
I think it was just another example of several where we played it dumb on the weekend.

I am not a Carlton bagger and think there were some positives - eg. we got generally smashed and everything that could go wrong did yet we still lost by 9points to top 4 team.
I also think we have a v strong team with a couple of weaker links - we don't need any more big names, draft picks etc... just need to get our best team on the park, improve our attitude, sharpen our strategies and those weak links need to lift their games by 10% and we're a top 4 team.

However, Waite played it dumb. Unfortunate he got pinged - other players would not have. But it is not a wrong decision from the Match Review Panel.

Good post.

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If it was "pretty far off the ball" as you say, then he's not allowed to shepherd either. Really, given the direction the two players were running, the only option available to him was to let the Freo bloke get a free run at Armfield.

As noted, he could have pole axed the guy.

Regardless of Waite's actions and subsequent suspension, the tribunal and match review panel consistently show what a total @#$%&! joke they are. It's embarrassing that a bloke of Andrew McKay's supposed calibre is partly responsible.

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When you look at it from the view point that if Waite was 3-4 metres closer to the ball then it wouldn't\shouldn't have even been a free kick then you realise how pathetic the review is.

End of story.

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Don't think Andy has the gig anymore

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default ... wsid=88814

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The other problem is that DeBoer was nowhere near Armfield and was not running at him to pressure him. My biggest problem is working out whether Waite is clumsy or just plain dumb.

I was at the game and before the incident happened I screamed out "shepherd Waitey" and he did. He didn't hear me, but it looked to me to be the right thing to do.

There'a also 2 different camera angles I've since seen the same incident. One angle makes it look late, but the camera vision taken behind Armfield's run seems to warrant Waites shepherd. And it wasn't malicious by any stretch of the imagination.

What the suspension tells me is that Waite is a victim of his 2010 reputation. Not fair, sure, but the reputation is not good.
Many years ago Fletcher was let off lots of times when he should have been suspended, but his reputation has caught up with him too.

Sad to see really, because Waite is a great footballer to watch, and he's one of the few who have a bit of mongrel in them too...not Hall like either. And speaking of Hall, he too is tarnished by his record. Shouldn't be the case in this day and age of intelligence and era of common sense debate

Sad really...and a lot of bad luck.

My advice to posters taking pot shots at Waite is take a rest, and that it's not fair and all for a borderline incident requiring interpretation. Don't take the side of the adjudicators because they are not deciding on the punishment purely on what is presented before them imo. Precedence is set, and you hope it is a precedent; somehow I doubt it and strongly believe Waite has been sodomised by the tribunal...I mean victimised.

I hope Waite continues to be aggressive and sets the standard on what we expect from all our players ...without stepping over the line...the one that suspension is warranted.

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I don't intend to stop taking potshots where they're deserved. This suspension has been coming for weeks. It was dumb the first time and it was dumber this time and unless he gets his head on straight it will be seriously dumber next time. He didn't have to do it. He did it.
Harry the blind miner can see he will be more scrutinized than before. He'e too good to be sitting in the grandstand. He has to be sensible. Even Barry Hall has worked that out.

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