North coach rallies fans to attend on Friday, peanut gallery Sun commentators respond in earnest

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..dig yer posts, but this is a stinker.. ..how's it smart play? to trade one of our 3 rucks [not krooz] for a top 20 pick when Hammer was drafted at 17 and for Knockers and 69 we gave up 24, 56 and 72.. ..only works for us if we trade Sauce on those terms..

..note -- i figure by top 20 yer not thinking of anything below 10 [otherwise it'd be top 10 pick].. ..and maybe not a bit over 10 either.. ..so, mid/late teens type pick yeah..??..

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What their value was when we aquired them is irrelevent. Football lists are an ever evolving beast. Do you think 2 high quality AFL type ruckman are going to be happy running around for the Bullants for the next 5 years? Moving one of them on for a quality return would be of benefit to us surely. If we could get a top 20 pick this year for one of Jacobs or Warnock, I'd jump at it. The draft looks to be an absolute ripper.

I wouldn't swap Hammer for anything less than a top 10 pick however.

..not even for a top ten it seems, since we knocked back port's offer for Hammer.. ..i just don't think it's smart play to trade a player for basically what it cost you in the first place.. ..it may work out that way for any number of reasons, but it's not smart play.. ..it's basically getting what it initially cost you back.. ..nothing extra for time/energy invested, and the development of the player, cos lets face it, if they didn't look any good said club wouldn't be offering their first round, or very early 2nd round pick would they..?.. ..and then yer gotta start all over again from scratch with another kid..

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Top 10 last year will be different to top 10 this year IMO. There is no way these 4 guys are going to be happy staying on the same list for the next 10 years. We still have a few holes out on the park, maybe one of the above mentioned ruckman can secure another important piece of the puzzle.

If we are going to trade one of them to GC, I would like to see some 3 way action and get a ready made player. Someone like Chris Knights. It all depends on how much these new clubs are willing to give up. It might not even happen at all or it might be Hawthorn who want to trade with us.

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I don't understand the obsession that we have to trade a ruckman.
We have 4 ... so what! If they all deserve and demand a game, great we can play 3 in the one side if we must. If there is any interest and one wants out, our player is convinced and wants out ..... well they better prepared to pay better than "market" rate, ie. top 5 draft pick!
We DON'T WANT TO TRADE

To an extent I agree. Just look at the injury woes Hawthorn had with their ruckman recently. Nobody suitable to fill the position. Having to use blokes like Roughead...who is required elsewhere.

Better safe than sorry with four ruckman. We already have plenty of midfielders, and good backman and good developing forwards.

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It comes back to what we can afford and market value. Soon, they're all going to be on substantial wages, and there are several clubs that would fall over each other for one of them.

We close off a potential cap issue and get great value. It's very much a win/win. Past value means nothing, but safe to say all will exceed their previous picks/trades. We're always going to bring another ruckman onto the senior list, but we can't keep carrying 4 ruckmen capable of playing AFL football; either they lose out or we do.

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I'd consider trading Hampson ONLY if we got something decent for him. If Jacobs or god-forbid Kreuzer goes down, Hampson is next in line for me.

Warnock hasn't impressed me, but i'm willing to give him the year cause he was injured for so long last year.


I love Sam Jacobs and can see him being part of this team for a long time. Adelaide might be interested and he might wanna go home and if he does i'd want a good pick for him, but otherwise i'd be working hard to keep him here. LOVE the heart of this kid. He might not have the best skills or footy brain, but he wants to play football, you can see it in his eyes! Determination such as that will get you places.

I remember at the time of the draft i suggested taking Sam Jacobs with our 3rd or 4th pick...... I rated him that highly. I always knew he'd take a couple of years but the fact we got him in the rookie draft is an absolute steal!
(from memory, we snagged Jamo in the same Rookie draft................ Awesome stuff!)

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no sarcasm i actualy hadnt heard that
i save sarcasm for non-blue supporters

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I see them as four ruckman/forward pockets. If they all turn out the way we hope I would do everything possible to keep them. I don't like talk about trades as IMO it's potentially destabilising for a club and demoralising for players. To me it's one of those things you think about but talk about if you have to behind closed doors. Are you there Mr Kernahan? I mean we all know there's a business side to football but no need to harp on it.

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Aren't we discussing the (possible) trading of our ruckmen in another thread?

oh no, it is far more important to speculate on trading ruckmen in the Round 12 thread..

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Sheesh be scared Blues

If I was Harvey I'd worry about the scoreboard once his little burst of emotion subsides.

Guys...... I appologize. I think I may have posted in the wrong thread!



My bad!

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Understandable though Ryan, it had become difficult to work out which thread was which, once you were reading it

Typical of North under Brad Scott... They go the knuckle when they're put under pressure or are getting belted on the scoreboard... This isnt the 70s boys!!!

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