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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:46 pm 
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Absofloweringlutely no question about this one.

We are a better team atm without Fev. For me personally, it has made my viewing pleasure much better. I am loving seeing other players kick goals this year, more than I enjoyed seeing Fev kick the long bombs in previous years.

Fev was good for Carlton. But it's now great without him. - Said without animosity. Just telling it like it is.


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:48 pm 
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exsing wrote:
For me personally, it has made my viewing pleasure much better. I am loving seeing other players kick goals this year, more than I enjoyed seeing Fev kick the long bombs in previous years.



Agree completely, instead of a Fevola dominated highlight reel we've got a number of players doing great things every match.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:33 pm 
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With Fev we used to struggle to create space in our F50. Other teams seemed to be able to work together to create opportunities for each other.

I can’t say for sure if Fev was the sole reason we struggled in that area. Maybe the other players are to blame for always looking for Fev. Maybe the coach was too reliant on using Fev. Not sure and now that he is gone I don’t particularly care. The point is we operate as a team more effectively now.

It’s great having a fwd line that doesn’t have a sole focus. Even better having a team that doesn’t have a player throwing his toys out of his cot if the ball is not kicked to him.

Fev is/was a wonderful talent for Carlton who provided us with a lot of happy memories. But, a Carlton without Fev – well, the proof is in the pudding. Not only can a Fevless Carlton work, it is proving to be a more potent team able to trouble sides in attack with multiple options, rather than a singular route to goal.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:54 pm 
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My theory on Fev is this.

Carlton were never able to fully exploit its potential because of our Fev-centric ways. Again, this is only a theory. But MAYBE players like Betts, Setanta, Garlett and Yarran got a little bit disheartened at times when they lead and lead but the ball was predominantly going to Fev. This probably caused complancency I guess...I know I would be a bit "meh" if the focus was always on Fev no matter how hard I tried.

Now with Fev gone, everyone knows they're a chance. And this is backed up by the stats on FW50 targets. Stats show that we don't have one primary target anymore and everyone knows the ball could potentially end up in their hands. And with that knowledge, everyone must now be on the ball and be ready when that ball does end up in their hands. No more expecting Fev to do the job now. Everyone now has a chance to be the hero/es. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:00 pm 
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Fev is A narcististic douchebag who was a cancer at the club. It was always going to be just about him. We have looked more impressive in our last 3 wins than anytime since 2001. We may still be 5-3 if he was still there, but this side is far better equiped to eventually go all the way.


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:37 pm 
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Blokes on here at the time reckoned it would teach Fisher a lesson and he'd keep out of Fevola's way from then on.
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And that is the point.. Fisher shouldn't have had to keep out of d*ckhead's way. D*ckhead should have been able to assess the game from his vantage point behind Fisher (and Whitnall and Carlos) and stay the flower out of the way. But as I have said many times, everything was all about HIM and when Pagan decided to make him the number one man, it gave Fevola free licence to own the place, and treat everyone around him like shit. God help them if they got in his way. So @#$%&! glad that cnt is gone.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:43 pm 
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Blokes on here at the time reckoned it would teach Fisher a lesson and he'd keep out of Fevola's way from then on.
:lol:


And that is the point.. Fisher shouldn't have had to keep out of d*ckhead's way. D*ckhead should have been able to assess the game from his vantage point behind Fisher (and Whitnall and Carlos) and stay the flower out of the way. But as I have said many times, everything was all about HIM and when Pagan decided to make him the number one man, it gave Fevola free licence to own the place, and treat everyone around him like shit. God help them if they got in his way. So !@#$%& glad that cnt is gone.


Easy to say now he's gone. Funny that people had the exact opposite response at the time.

But then again, it's not surprising, is it?


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:58 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
Fev is A narcististic douchebag who was a cancer at the club. It was always going to be just about him. We have looked more impressive in our last 3 wins than anytime since 2001. We may still be 5-3 if he was still there, but this side is far better equiped to eventually go all the way.



Good work Agent 13

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:00 pm 
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verbs wrote:
chyna wrote:
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Blokes on here at the time reckoned it would teach Fisher a lesson and he'd keep out of Fevola's way from then on.
:lol:


And that is the point.. Fisher shouldn't have had to keep out of d*ckhead's way. D*ckhead should have been able to assess the game from his vantage point behind Fisher (and Whitnall and Carlos) and stay the flower out of the way. But as I have said many times, everything was all about HIM and when Pagan decided to make him the number one man, it gave Fevola free licence to own the place, and treat everyone around him like shit. God help them if they got in his way. So !@#$%& glad that cnt is gone.


Easy to say now he's gone. Funny that people had the exact opposite response at the time.

But then again, it's not surprising, is it?


Am happy to say that all my posts about fevola are consistent with current view. Go back and look if in doubt. Got sick of saying "I told you so" after every complete and utter fuckup this clown caused.
There are a few of us Carlton supporters who don't need the power of hindsight to see through rose coloured glasses.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:05 pm 
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chyna wrote:
verbs wrote:
chyna wrote:

And that is the point.. Fisher shouldn't have had to keep out of d*ckhead's way. D*ckhead should have been able to assess the game from his vantage point behind Fisher (and Whitnall and Carlos) and stay the flower out of the way. But as I have said many times, everything was all about HIM and when Pagan decided to make him the number one man, it gave Fevola free licence to own the place, and treat everyone around him like shit. God help them if they got in his way. So !@#$%& glad that cnt is gone.


Easy to say now he's gone. Funny that people had the exact opposite response at the time.

But then again, it's not surprising, is it?


Am happy to say that all my posts about fevola are consistent with current view. Go back and look if in doubt. Got sick of saying "I told you so" after every complete and utter !@#$%& this clown caused.
There are a few of us Carlton supporters who don't need the power of hindsight to see through rose coloured glasses.


No doubt you defened Fisher at the time. Good work for having such foresight.


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:06 pm 
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I am glad we decided to go down the multipronged unpredictable forward line route. Shame Fev was never able to adapt to such a plan. He needed too much room to perform at his best and that cost the team.

I will never blame him for launching at the ball no matter who was in his way. Pagan drilled that into him as he mentioned in many an interview circa 2004. Maybe Fev could have adjusted this to suit the modern game but i am not sure he was ever asked to.


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:52 pm 
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verbs wrote:
chyna wrote:
verbs wrote:


Easy to say now he's gone. Funny that people had the exact opposite response at the time.

But then again, it's not surprising, is it?


Am happy to say that all my posts about fevola are consistent with current view. Go back and look if in doubt. Got sick of saying "I told you so" after every complete and utter !@#$%& this clown caused.
There are a few of us Carlton supporters who don't need the power of hindsight to see through rose coloured glasses.


No doubt you defened Fisher at the time. Good work for having such foresight.



It's not called foresight..its called footballing intelligence.

Or for the uninitiated - common sense.

This will be a stupid analgy but I will state it anyway.
There is a car park on the side of the road.. a parallel park. The car in front wants to reverse back into the park and the car behind can see this. A sensible and responsible driver would accept that he can see what is happening in front of him and in order avoid a collision, would give enough room to the front car to safely reverse back without a crash.
A selfish, petulant, arrogant and obnoxious arsehole of a driver would say...@#$%&! him.. its mine... and try to drive into the parking space, where there is no space because the other car is already half way in - and would cause a collision.

The car in front is focussed on one thing.. getting into the park behind him.
The driver behind can see everything going on around him and can evaluate the situation and should do the responsible thing to avoid any problems. In these cases (Fisher x2, Lance and Carlos) - Fevola obviously didn't because he was 'the man' and everything in the past 8 years has been all about him to the detriment of the whole damn club.

Fevola obviously can't parallel park!

@#$%&! OFF FEVOLA!! It took 12 years but my prayers were finally @#$%&! answered during Trade Week.

Even if Pagan gave him full licence to launch 29, it doesn't mean that he didn't have a responsibility to respect his team-mates and his club by staying the hell out of places he shouldn't have been. The bloke had no footballing nouse and was a selfish, petulant brat! If every thing was not about him, he had a flower sook, and we as a club paid the price for it for many, many years.

I blame John Elliott as indicated.. for sacking Brittain before he had the chance to sack Fevola. Make no mistake..... we struggled for so many years BECAUSE of Fevola.. not in spite of him. He was a drain on our list, on our game plan, on the development of our younger blokes and now that he has moved on, we can finally begin to build towards a bright future. It was never going to happen under the guise of the Brendan Fevola Football Club.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:00 pm 
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Fisher would have been grateful for the way you stood up for him at the time when people were saying he needed to stay out of Fevola's space.


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:02 pm 
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Voss was on the News tonight saying that he has told Fevola to up his work rate.....and that he's just not putting in the effort required....

...no surprise there......Fevs had that sulky look on his face lately that we know so well.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:14 pm 
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Yeah, I know, everyone has 20/20 hindsight, but we should have included fev in the Judd Trade, not Josh.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:25 pm 
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Voss was on the News tonight saying that he has told Fevola to up his work rate.....and that he's just not putting in the effort required....


It begins...

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:02 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
Warby wrote:
Voss was on the News tonight saying that he has told Fevola to up his work rate.....and that he's just not putting in the effort required....


It begins...


6-8 weeks before I thought it would, to be perfectly honest. I thought he'd at least make it to the mid-season break.

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:28 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Warby wrote:
Voss was on the News tonight saying that he has told Fevola to up his work rate.....and that he's just not putting in the effort required....


It begins...


6-8 weeks before I thought it would, to be perfectly honest. I thought he'd at least make it to the mid-season break.


Fev courts chaos in his life. He puts his head down, gets good results for a 6-12 week stretch, then flowers up. Roots around, pisses his money away, body language, fitness and effort drops off, his wife leaves him (for the 20th time), gets disciplined or dropped, says mea culpa and restarts the cycle.

I was over this cycle a long time ago. A trade in 06 or 08 would have been fantastic, but we got something for him in the end and I'm grateful for that.

We're finally seeing the proof of the truism that no player is bigger than the team. We had a poor forward line when Fev was here but we couldn't get rid of him because then we'd have a battler like Setanta being our key forward.

Wow, get rid of Fev and look what happens when others climb out from under his shadow


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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:34 am 
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I'm happy the guy is gone but let's not kick him and enjoy it so much.

He has problems and is struggling at the moment. I wish him well because he played for my club and deserves my respect as a past member of the CFC.

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:11 am 
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Blokes on here at the time reckoned it would teach Fisher a lesson and he'd keep out of Fevola's way from then on.
:lol:


Blokes on here have had all sorts of views though Verbs :wink: Fev was always a polariser despite providing some bright moments in a pretty bleak period for the club.


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