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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:45 pm 
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Sauce. He's sh#thouse and very VFL. Flog him to the Gold Coast while we still can :cry:

Joseph. Not really AFL level at the minute. Another worthy of the red guernsey.

Juddy. When you're clear 40m out - have a ping son. no good looking to pin point our fwds when they're one on one. They're not that good.



Have to disagree on these points.

Sauce especially considering its his first game in a year was very good. His ruckwork was something we have been lacking.

AJ although he does need to get a bit more of it gave Davis a bath.

Juddy was awesome.




MIL, what are you on??
Did sauce do any worse than what knockers did for the first 5 rounds??

AJ = 4 kicks, 4 hb's, 4 marks, 5 tackles, 1 free against.
Davis = 5 kicks, 5 hb's, 0 marks, 4 tackles, 3 free's against
If you ask me he did an outstanding job on a AA small forward who killed us last year.
What more do you want??
On this performance you must think Davis is not very afl at the moment too??


I'm on Carlton Draught.

What Sauce doesn't give is the around the ground efforts, simply due to the fact he can't get there. Would have loved to see him chasing Wojinski..... :yikes:


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:45 pm 
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I was wrong.

Pies are definitely contenders...

Well drilled. Great pressure. Smashed us on every turnover.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:54 pm 
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Back on the game! :roll: That was very hard to watch. Nothing more I hate than getting done by the Filth.

The issue is is that what happens when you have such a young side. You get inconsistency.

A couple of points:

1. You ever recruited McLean should have their position questioned. I have friends at Melbourne who couldn't believe what they got for him. They said he was so slow that he wouldnt last another year in the game and it had gone past him. Hard to argue with them after what I have seen this year. Surely Grigg, Hadley, Robbo or even Ellard would be better?

2. Though Sauce did some good stuff and was great around the stoppages and gave Judd an armchair ride.

3. Kruezer - I know he is our best ruckman but we look better as a side with him up forward.

4. Henderson needs to go back for a while and get some confidence. Looks shot at the moment.

5. White after struggling down back went fwd and looked okay kicked a goal and then went straight back to defence. Why?

6. Missed the run of Walker badly. Looked good when Armfield ran the lines.

7. Lucas will be a star. Indictment on others that this kid stands out already.

8. Judd, Simmo, Murphy and Gibbs are genuine stars and with them as the basis we will eventually overtake C'wood.

9. Houlihan - showed why he polarises people. Looks great in space but if he has to tag or shut down someone lacks pace and mental toughness.

10. We will beat St Kilda next week.


You mentioned similar in Pros and Cons about Houla.

Do you really believe that Heath Shaw beat Houla? That he had a day out?
Houla had a heavy tag on Shaw all day. I thought he did his job.

All the other stuff, I agree.

Especially disappointed in McLean and that disappointment started for me in the NAB game in Sydney; his first game in our jumper.
Mates of mine who are long suffering Demons supporters said the same Psych; too slow.

FFS Hadley had a better preseason than McLean and has been left on the outer; helps to have 2 ex coaches looking after you.
Ther point being McLean does not do enough for those who love his blocks and pushes and shepherds; imo, he doesn't do enough of that either.

Wasn't as impressed with Sauce as some others have stated were. I did see a couple of brilliant taps to Judd. I prefer Warnock, and I terribly miss Hampson and Kreuzer 2009 combo.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:54 pm 
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I tipped Collingwood to win the premiership before the season started and I think I am the only Carlton supporter who rates the Collingwood team and the players. They are a team of hard working guns so no surprises about the huge loss here.

There midfield has so many options. I would love to see the rotation stats (through the mifield) between the two sides.

Collingwood are the benchmark at the moment.


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They have been April/May premiers for about 45 of the last 50 years & how many flags have the flower won :?:


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We were shite today. We gave them at least 10 goals from turnovers, yeah some of the turnovers were caused by their pressure, but Stk, Gee and Bullies won't crumble like we did (forget round 1, Bullies were still celebrating NAB cup).

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:58 pm 
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Collingwood have a good group of players that play like a team. This what a good coach does.. in terms of age they aren't much older than the team we fielded today.. Malthouse is just an A grade coach.


Nothing to do with the coach...we're young....we need time....yada yada yada :lol:


Everything to do with the coach. Matlhouse is the best in the business and we saw that today.


From what we get served on this site, has nothing to do with the coach. I mean, its not as though Malthouse can make players tackle, chase, harrass, position, break, switch, open fwd line, shut down fwd line etc.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:03 pm 
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They have been April/May premiers for about 45 of the last 50 years & how many flags have the flower won :?:[/quote]

Maybe you and many others at Carlton underestimate them. This is the best Collingwood side I have ever seen.[/quote]

Sidebottom, Beames and Thomas are front runners, Fraser is ordinary and Davis wilts at the G. Dawes had 4 inches and 15 kg on his opponent. we virtually undid two quarters of rubbish in 15 minutes

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:06 pm 
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They have been April/May premiers for about 45 of the last 50 years & how many flags have the flower won :?:


Maybe you and many others at Carlton underestimate them. This is the best Collingwood side I have ever seen.[/quote]

Sidebottom, Beames and Thomas are front runners, Fraser is ordinary and Davis wilts at the G. Dawes had 4 inches and 15 kg on his opponent. we virtually undid two quarters of rubbish in 15 minutes[/quote]

And then undid the undoing in 10 minutes, in the same qtr


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:07 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
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Hey Duc I just got the same message... :lol: and I replied including the coach in this formula....feel free at anytime this week to ban me if things get out of hand... :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's the plan if the Sakc Ratts thread gets a facelift. :thumbsup:


Go have a look...I think I'm safe....tired of it Duc can't be stuffed...too many sensitive types in the house.. :lol:


BRAVO! This site is like a dictatorship. Careful with what you say YOU WILL GET BANNED FOR NO REASON.
Guess thats probably the last thing I write on this site. Oh well. Come get me you Commies!!!!!![/quote]

my post to juddy was a personal joke between family. Try to calm down a bit.[/quote]

This site is gold DUC.... :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]


Ah...so you're a 'plant'! :sly:

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:13 pm 
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I got the impression that we lacked any real physical presence in contests and when tackling, we seemed to get brushed aside easily.

I am trying to work out if it was lack of intensity, smaller bodies than Collingwood or an inability to cope with the pressure that they applied, and they applied plenty.

I can't decide if we were just beaten by a better side or if it was a poor performance, having said that it doesn't feel like a 9 goal belting and I think the scoreboard flattered Collingwood a bit.

the one thing I am seriously dirty on was our decsion making and errors, we gifted them a lot of scores by those two things.

I am genuinely confused about how to take this loss and what to take out of the game, other than sugar Lucas, the kid appears to have real talent and desire.

:banghead: :confused: :screwy:


I enjoyed the game as a game, especially after watching the boring Saints game on Friday.

Your post best explains where I'm at from a Carlton perspective.

Lucas just fits in like he belongs, but I want to see if he can hang in there longer than what Robbo did in his first year.

Definetely not doom or gloom. All good character building.

But I really hate losing to these pricks. :fight: :fight: :fight: :fight:

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:16 pm 
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I was hoping my first post to the group would be at a cheerier time, but nevermind.
There's always next week.

Hate to admit it but the filth were good today. I thought one on one we were pretty good,
but it seemed like when it became a three on three or five on five or whatever they would prevail.
They play a very good team game. :sad:

As for us, despite the result I actually thought we did pretty well. I was really impressed at how,
even when we were 39 points down, we kept trying to use the corridor and break the game open.
It damn near worked. I kept waiting for them to stuff up coming out of the backline and gift us an
easy goal - something to demoralise them - but it just didn't happen. They are very well drilled, but
we're not that far behind. I don't think the six day break after the bruising Geelong encounter helped.

Team wise I think that overall we should hang in there with most of these blokes. I don't think they're
at all soft or lazy. In fact I think that they worked their asses off today and I don't think any of them
lack courage. Players do lose form though and I agree with those who reckon it's time for Hendo to have
a spell. Waite in would be nice. McClean's a worry too. Perhaps he's doing things I'm not seeing. Personally
I'm a big Hadley fan and work welcome a straight swap. Really pleased for Setanta today.


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:36 pm 
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After we got virtually level in the 3rd quarter there was only one difference.

They were too strong.

Every time they tackled us the tackle stuck; every time we tackled them, they, at the very least, they got their hands free and got the ball free.

Watch the game again and tell me I'm wrong.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:44 pm 
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they were very strong, our tackles were weak, its the next thing for us, that and stoppages. We left to many stoppages to too few players
finally entries into our forward 50. How many times did we kick it to them?

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:45 pm 
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DUC, Juddy ATK, LL. Stop littering this thread with private little bullshit adolescent in-jokes. Go on facebook and spare us


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dont include me in that group thankyou very much. i was just stating a fact.
by the way i am of the opinion that EVERY thread on this site is "littered with private little bullshit adolescent in-jokes"
but what's one to do?


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:48 pm 
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Laguna Legend wrote:
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DUC, Juddy ATK, LL. Stop littering this thread with private little bullshit adolescent in-jokes. Go on facebook and spare us


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dont include me in that group thankyou very much. i was just stating a fact.
by the way i am of the opinion that EVERY thread on this site is "littered with private little bullshit adolescent in-jokes"
but what's one to do?


Rick take it from me...you take this site seriously at your own peril.... :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:50 pm 
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they were very strong, our tackles were weak, its the next thing for us, that and stoppages. We left to many stoppages to too few players
finally entries into our forward 50. How many times did we kick it to them?


Our mids (excluding Judd) do not work hard enough consistently...

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:52 pm 
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I agree, too many times some of our mids went forward yet we hadn't won the stoppage, win it, then run!

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:57 pm 
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I agree, too many times some of our mids went forward yet we hadn't won the stoppage, win it, the run!


I don't like to bag players usually but geez Murph can be guilty of exactly this most times...now I don't know whether its just laziness or playing to instruction but it happens too often..

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:00 pm 
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actually he doesn't bother me, he's our rapier. Its the others that must run in hard and support.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:04 pm 
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Didn't see the game, twas playing footy.

But I did hear we were 40 odd points down and got within 3?

We obviously played one good stage of footy?

If that's the case, I'd be taking it positively, If we could string a 4 quarter non-stop effort like we did against Geelong, not only can we beat this ovverated mob, but the other 14 teams aswell.

But yet our run of hack forwards kicking goals against continues, Brad Moran 4 up at Adeliade a few years back, Mark Williams 4 in round 3 and Chris Dawes 3.4 today.

Also Luke Ball kicking 3 goals and a near B.O.G performance shows how unaccountable Carlton are of mediocre players. This obviously needs attention.


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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:04 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
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I agree, too many times some of our mids went forward yet we hadn't won the stoppage, win it, the run!


I don't like to bag players usually but geez Murph can be guilty of exactly this most times...now I don't know whether its just laziness or playing to instruction but it happens too often..


Haven't noticed, but others have said it too, so maybe he can improve. Still he was nearly BOG for mine. My filth mate made good point when we were 39 points down in the 2nd.......we had the top 6 possession getters on the park. Go figure.


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