yep,
he'll probably get thrown off Pokey at match practice.

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The latter years of Parko's era were years we probably thought we were in premiership contention and thus traded to top up in the chase for a flag.
IMO there's nothing wrong with that philosophy as long as when age and injury encroach too far there's an acceptance to bottom out and rebuild with youth, which we were prepared to do in 2002 before we were sanctioned.

Every time I watch Paul Chapman and Barry Hall play I think of Elliot and Parkin's no rebuilding philosophy.

Neither player is yet to really prove themselves, so to say Parko has lost it is just as premature as making a judgment on either player at this stage

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Had we won a flag then the top-up strategy wouldnt have been questioned (its exactly what brissie is trying to do atm)

2000 - lost kouta+SOS (+rice) with injuries
2001 - lost kouta+ratten (+franchina) with injuries

kouta was close to, if not the best player in the comp when injured in both 2000+2001. SOS was one of the best defenders and ratten was one of the best in and under onballers at the time.

If we compared 2000/01 injuries with the previous few flag teams
In the cats 07+09 flag teams , the 2000 injury equivalent would have been ablett (best player)+scarlett (best defender) and 2001 injury equivalent would have been ablett (best player)+selwood (best in and under) - the cats would still have won against port but would'nt have won the 09 flag with those injuries

Similary hawks would have lost 08 flag, eagles in 06, swans in 05

We wouldn't have drafted them if we'd had kept the picks anyway so do yourself a favour and stop thinking that way

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That's right AK43 - you also need to think of Shane O'Sullivan when you watch Chapman and Hall play

That was Wayne Brittain.

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no it wasn't. Parkin was at the helm until the end of 2001 IIRC.

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Agree with Frank...less than 25 games between the two players and its a bit early to make a call.
Parkin is a legend of the game but has been suffering football dementia at times wih some of his comments...he is out of touch with list management/ trading etc and has to share repsonsibility for leaving our list in such a poor way with some of his decision making when he was coaching in his final years.

Henderson probably doesnt have the natural talents of Gumbleton ie marking abilities but is a more flexible player and willing to do the 1% ers, his chasing of the Tiger smalls was a feature I thought. His work ethic is excellent and he will make a fine player.
Henderson is blue collar where I think Essendon* recruited Gumbleton as a star Key Forward prospect along the lines of Kosi......both have great upside but i think our bloke is more likely to play more games as he is more robust in nature.

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Nope, Parkin left at the end of 2000. Brittain was definitely responsible for the Massie/Edwards debacle. However, Parkin was in charge when we traded for Mansfield.

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=2001

We also traded Porter

don't you love club history, everyone has an opinion, a perspective.

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Thanks for the advice champ. I'll think how I want. I just find it interesting that decisions made over a decade ago by Parko are still affecting our current list. He's rightfully our coach of the century but the state of our list when he left and the philiosophy behind that are big black marks against him IMO. I think it's actually a good reminder of the dangers of short term thinking and when is it an appropriate time to judge a trade or compare draft choices. There's a lot of people who've worked themselves into a lather over Yarran v Rich for example. I'm sure Melbourne supporters are doing the same over Watts v Naitanui. There's a lot of water to pass under the bridge before it's possible to make a call on these.

My opinion is that i have spent two minutes of my life reading this thread and at the end of it, my opinion is WHO CARES

Debacle?
Kris Massie was a good kid but he was only a fair player who went on to achieve little at Adelaide.
Hardly a debacle.

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IIRC Parko was a servant of the Club and the Club was one person.
Ditto Brits

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Fair enough, i couldn't think of a different word, you're right individually it wasn't a debacle, though we didn't appear to do our homework on Eccles' injury concerns. What was a debacle, however, was our combined trading efforts that off-season. To trade away Porter, PLUS draft picks in the best draft ever for McKernan, and also trading players and draft picks to get Lindsay Smith, David Gallagher, Andrew Eccles and Justin Murphy back was a complete misjudgement of where our list was at (and poor trading no matter what state your list is in).

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