bondi I don't have a big party weekend but was also speaking to a Melbourne supporter who had big wraps for McLean. Said pretty much what you have said, Melbourne kept playing him injured because that's the type of player he is, and they had no one else anyway. The injuries were not chronic and as we have heard he has been training the house down over summer so is now fit.

The players themselves were sorry to see him go as he brought a toughness and leadership onto the field. That is something we can really do with.

His skills are not the greatest but we already know that. What he can do is kick long and accurately and get the ball out of tight situations.

My source is the same guy who was talking him down when the Demons first traded him. What is now obvious is that he was a wanted player at Melbourne but had determined he was going and all parties believed pick 11 was fair and the deal was done.

Although we already have Hadley, he is continually getting injured himself. Plus why can't you rotate the two off the bench so there is a specialist stoppage player on the ground at all times. It would mean that Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, would not have to go in but be on the periphery where they can be at their most damaging.



This guy is close to the players so my info is pretty right.

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..can definately play both hads and brock in the same team.. ..hell, if the opposition gets a roll on us, throw them both in the guts at the same time to just clog everything up and arrest the rampage a team has on us.. ..there's a time and tactic for almost every game, and often a game will switch styles as it goes.. ..we need to learn to play a variety of game styles on the same day..

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I thought McLean was a good pickup
Was injured a lot 23 ready to show his stuff
Buthe is slower than I thought

Sarcasm - I get it. If you're not prepared to debate the pros and cons - don't bother.

If you think we're immune from another Mick Mansfield type situation then you're kidding yourself. I'm not suggesting that's the case with McLean, but it's a very real possibilty. Of courese I'll support every Carlton player that takes the field but that doesn't mean I have to support every decision the board and coach makes.

I didn't support the trade last year, and I still don't believe it was a good move today.

Hopefully Brock can prove me wrong. I'm sure I'll be wrong one day .

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Time to lock this thread.

Agree.
Bentick can't play at the level McClean can.
We will look even better when McClean is doing what he does best and Judd is on the end of it.

Sorry to be a pedant woof, but it's 'McLean'. 'McClean' is weird to look at.

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I have a little crush on McLean now. (is that wrong?)
thought he was great last night..looked and played like a long time blueboy.

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You mean like you were with Russell

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When I get proven wrong about Rusell, I'll admit it . He's improved a small percent but IMO still isn't a player I'd want going in to a GF.

Brock was good in patches last night and will get better I'm sure. I just question the amount we paid and whether it will be worthwhile in the long run.

Let's not get too carried away with 1 win over Richmond - who, let's be honest, are an absolute disgrace.

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Brock will be a good get in the long run for us. Very happy with his output last night.

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Brock had a great debut game last night. Consistent performances like that will see most supporters happy with the trade.



I remember a great game by AB against the pies a few years ago. A Brownlow 3 voter IIRC.

Duke, you are a hard man to please. Russell has improved substantially. As has McLean from his pre season form. Although as you say it was against a disgrace who will probably be the wooden spooners, a win is a win. Enjoy.

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This thread should die.

I saw more in brock this game and more I have ever seen from Bentdick.

Reincarnation of Ratts

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My God now there is someone who simply cannot admit when they're wrong. I feel for you missing out on the enjoyment of watching JR play.

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If JR has improved a "small percent", gee I'd like to see a big improvement then !

JR is now definitely in our top dozen or so players IMHO, and that is huge from where he was not that long ago. Its all coming together (finally) for JR.

Brock was great, and even though it was only Richmond, he is so much better than Bentick. Judd and Murph can only benefit from having him in the team.