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Just for the next fortnight, do you reckon we could get $1m worth of footy from him?


You're a hard taskmaster, expecting him to perform like a $26m dollar player :)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2026 8:23 pm 
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Maybe on a wet night Cripps will do more ruck work?

With the rookie out there, he’ll be calling his own number as much as possible.

Better that than being responsible for a midfielder that’s running away from him.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2026 10:53 pm 
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What the hell is this head tap rule. How soft this game has become!! Love to lose a final because of a silly head tap. What the?

it’s an “anti-taunting” rule. i guess the problem is it’s happening more and more and the more they tighten up the rules the more players will lean into anything that ambiguous or not disallowance.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2026 11:01 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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I'd go Dean for Young, Acres for Hollands or Cottrell and Moir for Ison.

Hollands probably deserves a second chance coming back. Cottrell though can kick goals and we will need every one.

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I'm leaning this way this morning. Cottrell or Hollands? Drop Cotters. Hollands provides run and more pressure on the contest.
Williams doesn't look 100% fit to me.


nobody in the team runs as much or as fast as Cottrell. even Ollie most games iirc. but neither overly impress arm.



Ollie Hollands ran 600 metres less than the AFL record last week. More than Cottrell has run at his peak.

Ollie applied 50 one percenters, Cottrell 32.
Ollie 93% Game Time. Cottrell 71.
Ollie 4 Tackles Cottrell 0


i knew someone was going to dig up the stats for. last week! Cottrell is well below his best this season. and runs more on wing than half forward. i think Ollie was on the wing all the game last and cotrell was HF last two games in AFL team. When Ollie is good he’s good but his disposal is very average at times. His desperation is great but it’s also his undoing at times if you know what i mean.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 10:10 am 
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diesel95 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
malbi wrote:
I'd go Dean for Young, Acres for Hollands or Cottrell and Moir for Ison.

Hollands probably deserves a second chance coming back. Cottrell though can kick goals and we will need every one.

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I'm leaning this way this morning. Cottrell or Hollands? Drop Cotters. Hollands provides run and more pressure on the contest.
Williams doesn't look 100% fit to me.


nobody in the team runs as much or as fast as Cottrell. even Ollie most games iirc. but neither overly impress arm.



Ollie Hollands ran 600 metres less than the AFL record last week. More than Cottrell has run at his peak.

Ollie applied 50 one percenters, Cottrell 32.
Ollie 93% Game Time. Cottrell 71.
Ollie 4 Tackles Cottrell 0


i knew someone was going to dig up the stats for. last week! Cottrell is well below his best this season. and runs more on wing than half forward. i think Ollie was on the wing all the game last and cotrell was HF last two games in AFL team. When Ollie is good he’s good but his disposal is very average at times. His desperation is great but it’s also his undoing at times if you know what i mean.


Nah. Didn’t need to dig. Didn’t want to quote but I feel Ollie is maligned by some supporters from his past when he was a 18-21yo. I look at stats from various sources post game, and knew the output was in Ollies favour last week. He actually played a Cottrell like game imo.

I love Cotts and was glad to see him selected when fit. He was underdone when Vossy picked him to play.

So, IMO you seem to be bringing the past to the present. I’ll jinx him now, but Ollie’s foot passing has been very good this year. Have a look at his Def %. I’m sure you’ll be shocked. I,ll leave the digging to you.

Fraser did a lot of work on Ollie in preseason. From the horses mouth. On being measured with his kicking. He’s got the pace and agility to give himself time to execute, and it’s shown this year. I posted 6 weeks ago,the very words to Ollie were to focus on fundamentals. For Ollie it was to keep looking ahead when taking a running bounce, and don’t bounce till he’s run his 10-15 m.

I think Fraser likes what Ollie brings. He’s 22yo and he should be at the top of his game. Maybe Fraser is playing him to make him more attractive for a trade :eek:

Since Cerra and Hayward proved themselves on a wing because Hollands and Carroll got injured, I think Ollie’s detractors see him as disposable. Against a backdrop of wins, imho some put 2 and 2 together and blame Ollie for our 2nd Hal fade-outs. They recall a couple miskicks every second game as a fledgling and pigeon holed him, judged and executed him.

We have ample wings now. Prefer Hayward closer to goal TBH. We need to increase our no of goals and Hayward is a multiple goal goal kicker. Can’t see Acres going past Ollie next year, nor Lucas Campo. His future at Carlton is in his hands. Let’s see how he goes in the wet tonight. Ditto Cotts. Cots has been quiet two games in a row. He’s the one we should have the torch on.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 10:12 am 
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Crusader wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Maybe on a wet night Cripps will do more ruck work?

With the rookie out there, he’ll be calling his own number as much as possible.

Better that than being responsible for a midfielder that’s running away from him.


Meek vc Cripps. Tell Crippa he’s dreaming. Just because it will be wet, doesn’t mean Meek gets shorter.

Stay in your land Crippa.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 11:08 am 
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missnaut wrote:
Hmmm I'm feeling like we drop this one.



yeh, i think it's gonna be close, but i can't see us getting over them.


so, with the team news, there's no harry dean? or withering?


yikes


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:33 pm 
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Dean’s in….

isn’t he…or is there a late change….?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:54 pm 
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tommi wrote:
Dean’s in….

isn’t he…or is there a late change….?


kindest regards tommi



i just saw the ins were riley, no mention of dean.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:57 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
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Dean’s in….

isn’t he…or is there a late change….?


kindest regards tommi



i just saw the ins were riley, no mention of dean.
He was in the Thursday ins.


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What day is it now…?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 1:29 pm 
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What the hell is this head tap rule. How soft this game has become!! Love to lose a final because of a silly head tap. What the?

it’s an “anti-taunting” rule. i guess the problem is it’s happening more and more and the more they tighten up the rules the more players will lean into anything that ambiguous or not disallowance.


In an incident in a recent game a player jumper punched his opponent quite vigorously about 5 times. The opponent responded with a smile and mildly messing the hair of the aggressor. Guess who the umpire gave the free kick to?

Just another ridiculous rule that this AFL regime has introduced.

In the game last night the ump called stand when there were 2 players each about 5 metres from the mark. Both players stood still looking at the umpire to get a hint as to who should stay. No direction given so both had to stay and watch 2 opposition players run past them to get in positions unopposed up the field.

In the same game a player nearest to a freekick left the area before the ump called stand because 3 opposition players had run past to be unopposed further up the field. The player was penalised 50 metres because no-one was on the mark.

Please AFL administration can you tell us what benefit is there to the game by not allowing a player to leave the mark?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 1:29 pm 
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On Cotters last week, 10 of his 12 disposals were in the front half, for 2 goal assists and 5 score involvements.

Not a great game by any stretch, the coaches would be expecting him to apply more pressure and tackle. But for a high half forward it wasn’t a drop worthy performance I don’t reckon.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 2:08 pm 
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NTBlue wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
What the hell is this head tap rule. How soft this game has become!! Love to lose a final because of a silly head tap. What the?

it’s an “anti-taunting” rule. i guess the problem is it’s happening more and more and the more they tighten up the rules the more players will lean into anything that ambiguous or not disallowance.


In an incident in a recent game a player jumper punched his opponent quite vigorously about 5 times. The opponent responded with a smile and mildly messing the hair of the aggressor. Guess who the umpire gave the free kick to?

Just another ridiculous rule that this AFL regime has introduced.

In the game last night the ump called stand when there were 2 players each about 5 metres from the mark. Both players stood still looking at the umpire to get a hint as to who should stay. No direction given so both had to stay and watch 2 opposition players run past them to get in positions unopposed up the field.

In the same game a player nearest to a freekick left the area before the ump called stand because 3 opposition players had run past to be unopposed further up the field. The player was penalised 50 metres because no-one was on the mark.

Please AFL administration can you tell us what benefit is there to the game by not allowing a player to leave the mark?

If the opposition can leave the mark & take position downfield, then the team that infringed, or was beaten in a fair contest, will have superior numbers at the next contest.

Pretty simple.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 2:58 pm 
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I hate Hawthorn and I’m sick of being their bitches. Would dearly love to win tonight. Be huge on multiple levels.

Mrs MPH didn’t consult the fixture and we are going out tonight so won’t be able to watch. This will be raised in her performance review :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 5:10 pm 
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I hate Hawthorn and I’m sick of being their bitches. Would dearly love to win tonight. Be huge on multiple levels.

Mrs MPH didn’t consult the fixture and we are going out tonight so won’t be able to watch. This will be raised in her performance review :lol:

Sounds like a Performance improvement plan is needed.

Anyway, looking forward to seeing Riley in the ruck. Hopefully we're switched on from the start tonight, Go Blues and Happy Birthday CK

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 6:44 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:

I'm leaning this way this morning. Cottrell or Hollands? Drop Cotters. Hollands provides run and more pressure on the contest.
Williams doesn't look 100% fit to me.


nobody in the team runs as much or as fast as Cottrell. even Ollie most games iirc. but neither overly impress arm.



Ollie Hollands ran 600 metres less than the AFL record last week. More than Cottrell has run at his peak.

Ollie applied 50 one percenters, Cottrell 32.
Ollie 93% Game Time. Cottrell 71.
Ollie 4 Tackles Cottrell 0


i knew someone was going to dig up the stats for. last week! Cottrell is well below his best this season. and runs more on wing than half forward. i think Ollie was on the wing all the game last and cotrell was HF last two games in AFL team. When Ollie is good he’s good but his disposal is very average at times. His desperation is great but it’s also his undoing at times if you know what i mean.


Nah. Didn’t need to dig. Didn’t want to quote but I feel Ollie is maligned by some supporters from his past when he was a 18-21yo. I look at stats from various sources post game, and knew the output was in Ollies favour last week. He actually played a Cottrell like game imo.

I love Cotts and was glad to see him selected when fit. He was underdone when Vossy picked him to play.

So, IMO you seem to be bringing the past to the present. I’ll jinx him now, but Ollie’s foot passing has been very good this year. Have a look at his Def %. I’m sure you’ll be shocked. I,ll leave the digging to you.

Fraser did a lot of work on Ollie in preseason. From the horses mouth. On being measured with his kicking. He’s got the pace and agility to give himself time to execute, and it’s shown this year. I posted 6 weeks ago,the very words to Ollie were to focus on fundamentals. For Ollie it was to keep looking ahead when taking a running bounce, and don’t bounce till he’s run his 10-15 m.

I think Fraser likes what Ollie brings. He’s 22yo and he should be at the top of his game. Maybe Fraser is playing him to make him more attractive for a trade :eek:

Since Cerra and Hayward proved themselves on a wing because Hollands and Carroll got injured, I think Ollie’s detractors see him as disposable. Against a backdrop of wins, imho some put 2 and 2 together and blame Ollie for our 2nd Hal fade-outs. They recall a couple miskicks every second game as a fledgling and pigeon holed him, judged and executed him.

We have ample wings now. Prefer Hayward closer to goal TBH. We need to increase our no of goals and Hayward is a multiple goal goal kicker. Can’t see Acres going past Ollie next year, nor Lucas Campo. His future at Carlton is in his hands. Let’s see how he goes in the wet tonight. Ditto Cotts. Cots has been quiet two games in a row. He’s the one we should have the torch on.

I've been discussing Ollie for weeks with my mate who's far harder on him than me. He asks what is the actual point of Ollie's game? He says that for all Ollies stats and running, when and where does he impact? Cotts in 2024 was hitting the score board and SA. I hope you've right that he has matured as a player and will continue to improve. I will conceded he's started to stick the occasional tackle which was my biggest knock on him in his first year. And first year player, Taylor Byrne has shown it's not just body size that determines if a tackle is hard or soft.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 6:47 pm 
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Maybe Fraser is playing him to make him more attractive for a trade :eek:


I actually wrote that on a private WhatsApp blues chat a couple of weeks ago, “are they fattening Ollie up for the trade points to draft Walker?”

You'd think Son of Sky Walker will be another player that Ollie has compete with to get a game if we do manage to draft him.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 6:53 pm 
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NTBlue wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
What the hell is this head tap rule. How soft this game has become!! Love to lose a final because of a silly head tap. What the?

it’s an “anti-taunting” rule. i guess the problem is it’s happening more and more and the more they tighten up the rules the more players will lean into anything that ambiguous or not disallowance.


In an incident in a recent game a player jumper punched his opponent quite vigorously about 5 times. The opponent responded with a smile and mildly messing the hair of the aggressor. Guess who the umpire gave the free kick to?

Just another ridiculous rule that this AFL regime has introduced.

In the game last night the ump called stand when there were 2 players each about 5 metres from the mark. Both players stood still looking at the umpire to get a hint as to who should stay. No direction given so both had to stay and watch 2 opposition players run past them to get in positions unopposed up the field.

In the same game a player nearest to a freekick left the area before the ump called stand because 3 opposition players had run past to be unopposed further up the field. The player was penalised 50 metres because no-one was on the mark.

Please AFL administration can you tell us what benefit is there to the game by not allowing a player to leave the mark?

The stand rule is becoming a farce. Even commentators feel the need to raise concerns about it. And it's not just the netball look of it (though netballers on mark can swivel t face the ball holder can't they?), it's the massive inconsistency in how these rules are applied.

That's one measure of if a law should be on the books or not. Cant it be fairly applied in all circumstances and will there be consistency in its application?

You can't say this stand rule is being applied consistently and even umpires don't seem to know what they are doing with it half the time.


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