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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:13 pm 
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Didn't north sack their coach very early in the 90s and bring in Pagan?

What's the point of keeping this pig headed gaslighter on another second???


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:15 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
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The players are either on strike, or are simply completely uncoachable.


This is my concern. Yet again the players get off the hook. Dock then half post ffs!



Sam Docherty has convinced me it's the coaches and gameplan that are untenable.

we get a new coach and gameplan, things could improve fast here.

players have imo, shown enough to be competitive and more.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:26 pm 
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As opposed to this?


I get the argument for a coach change, but it's still Round 4. What changes can a coach make to a list whereby - let's face it - at least two-thirds of the list really isn't good enough at AFL level and/or they are well past their prime and/or talented, but soft as butter.

Wait out the year, as painful as that might be.


Why? We need a change and at 1-3 there's still alot of the season ahead. Only have to finish 10th.

Alot is attitude as we found mid 2023 where we went from shit to superstars in a week and stayed there. Need someone the players play for, not a coach who has lost them.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:40 pm 
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One coach is sacked
Another coach is appointed
And nothing will change until that board is gone and people with footy acumen come on board


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:44 pm 
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keogh wrote:
One coach is sacked
Another coach is appointed
And nothing will change until that board is gone and people with footy acumen come on board

And don't forget the pokies...you can't win premierships when you have pokies

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:00 pm 
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I am now on board with Voss getting the sack IF we have identified a long term replacement after doing a proper (transparent, wide ranging and open minded) recruitment process, and secured the agreement of our top candidate. Not interested if it's just some flimsy "lost the dressing room", scapegoating, sugar hit . We've been >3 goals up in Q3 of every game, it's not entirely about strategic incompetence.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:04 pm 
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keogh wrote:
One coach is sacked
Another coach is appointed
And nothing will change until that board is gone and people with footy acumen come on board


In all seriousness, we keep hearing this from you, but there comes a point whereby you have to name names. The vast majority of board members are successful business people that have a specialty field whether it be business, law, accounting, construction etc, etc. For comparison's sake - at the Pies, they have Paul Licuria on the board - but post-footy he set up his own business, became a pilot, got an MBA. He'd probably be a decent sounding board, but he was just a footballer who's been out of the game for 20 years. What sort of footy acumen do you think Collingwood relies on Paul to provide? The answer is, they likely don't.

Yes, he's a past player but it's his business acumen that has him on the board since 2018 with a skill set that encompasses acquisitions, planning, funding, marketing and project management. I like the fact that our CEO has great footy acumen. I'm not convinced we need ex-players as board members unless they have some runs on the board in the real world.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:14 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
keogh wrote:
One coach is sacked
Another coach is appointed
And nothing will change until that board is gone and people with footy acumen come on board


In all seriousness, we keep hearing this from you, but there comes a point whereby you have to name names. The vast majority of board members are successful business people that have a specialty field whether it be business, law, accounting, construction etc, etc. For comparison's sake - at the Pies, they have Paul Licuria on the board - but post-footy he set up his own business, became a pilot, got an MBA. He'd probably be a decent sounding board, but he was just a footballer who's been out of the game for 20 years. What sort of footy acumen do you think Collingwood relies on Paul to provide? The answer is, they likely don't.

Yes, he's a past player but it's his business acumen that has him on the board since 2018 with a skill set that encompasses acquisitions, planning, funding, marketing and project management. I like the fact that our CEO has great footy acumen. I'm not convinced we need ex-players as board members unless they have some runs on the board in the real world.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:54 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
I am now on board with Voss getting the sack IF we have identified a long term replacement after doing a proper (transparent, wide ranging and open minded) recruitment process, and secured the agreement of our top candidate. Not interested if it's just some flimsy "lost the dressing room", scapegoating, sugar hit . We've been >3 goals up in Q3 of every game, it's not entirely about strategic incompetence.


That's what it would be with an interim but a proper process will happen years end.

We did that process last time and ended up with Voss.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 7:14 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
keogh wrote:
One coach is sacked
Another coach is appointed
And nothing will change until that board is gone and people with footy acumen come on board


In all seriousness, we keep hearing this from you, but there comes a point whereby you have to name names. The vast majority of board members are successful business people that have a specialty field whether it be business, law, accounting, construction etc, etc. For comparison's sake - at the Pies, they have Paul Licuria on the board - but post-footy he set up his own business, became a pilot, got an MBA. He'd probably be a decent sounding board, but he was just a footballer who's been out of the game for 20 years. What sort of footy acumen do you think Collingwood relies on Paul to provide? The answer is, they likely don't.

Yes, he's a past player but it's his business acumen that has him on the board since 2018 with a skill set that encompasses acquisitions, planning, funding, marketing and project management. I like the fact that our CEO has great footy acumen. I'm not convinced we need ex-players as board members unless they have some runs on the board in the real world.

Ian Prendergast
Look if 25 years of sackings of coaches fitness staff head of football doesn’t prove the @#$%&! obvious well…
And you know that the board has set themselves up to be hard to dislodge if a ticket is formed
25 @#$%&! years
One Preliminary Final
And what’s the one common denominator…
Some people can work it out in 5 minutes mate
They can smell the BS from 10 miles
I can name the board members and their history if you want
But why
What does it matter
They have failed
Some were there when they gave Voss the job but offered Kingsley the assistance role after he had been passed over yet again
As someone said the other day
Why is it so hard?
Exactly
Synbad and myself were saying this was the problem 20 years ago


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 7:31 pm 
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jim wrote:
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I am now on board with Voss getting the sack IF we have identified a long term replacement after doing a proper (transparent, wide ranging and open minded) recruitment process, and secured the agreement of our top candidate. Not interested if it's just some flimsy "lost the dressing room", scapegoating, sugar hit . We've been >3 goals up in Q3 of every game, it's not entirely about strategic incompetence.


That's what it would be with an interim but a proper process will happen years end.

We did that process last time and ended up with Voss.


Was it transparent, wide ranging & open minded? One of the blokes from the Ian Prendercast is life long best mates with Kingsley, and his contention is that Voss was chosen before Kingsley interviewed, and when the latter played a blinder they hemmed and hawed and then offered him an assistant role equivalent to what he already had.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 8:02 pm 
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keogh wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
keogh wrote:
One coach is sacked
Another coach is appointed
And nothing will change until that board is gone and people with footy acumen come on board


In all seriousness, we keep hearing this from you, but there comes a point whereby you have to name names. The vast majority of board members are successful business people that have a specialty field whether it be business, law, accounting, construction etc, etc. For comparison's sake - at the Pies, they have Paul Licuria on the board - but post-footy he set up his own business, became a pilot, got an MBA. He'd probably be a decent sounding board, but he was just a footballer who's been out of the game for 20 years. What sort of footy acumen do you think Collingwood relies on Paul to provide? The answer is, they likely don't.

Yes, he's a past player but it's his business acumen that has him on the board since 2018 with a skill set that encompasses acquisitions, planning, funding, marketing and project management. I like the fact that our CEO has great footy acumen. I'm not convinced we need ex-players as board members unless they have some runs on the board in the real world.

Ian Prendergast
Look if 25 years of sackings of coaches fitness staff head of football doesn’t prove the @#$%&! obvious well…
And you know that the board has set themselves up to be hard to dislodge if a ticket is formed
25 @#$%&! years
One Preliminary Final
And what’s the one common denominator…
Some people can work it out in 5 minutes mate
They can smell the BS from 10 miles
I can name the board members and their history if you want
But why
What does it matter
They have failed
Some were there when they gave Voss the job but offered Kingsley the assistance role after he had been passed over yet again
As someone said the other day
Why is it so hard?
Exactly
Synbad and myself were saying this was the problem 20 years ago



What does it matter?
If it doesn't matter then why do you go on like a broken record?
Clearly it does matter to you... So if you are in a position of knowledge and ideas - let's all share.... (?)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 8:20 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
One of the blokes from the Ian Prendercast is life long best mates with Kingsley, and his contention is that Voss was chosen before Kingsley interviewed, and when the latter played a blinder they hemmed and hawed and then offered him an assistant role equivalent to what he already had.


True story unfortunately. Greg Williams was the most influential advocate for Voss, and confided in a confidential conversation with Tim Watson about his certainty regarding Voss, before the interview process had concluded. As the head of the panel, his opinion carried significant weight in the final decision to appoint Voss over Kingsley.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 8:26 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
One of the blokes from the Ian Prendercast is life long best mates with Kingsley, and his contention is that Voss was chosen before Kingsley interviewed, and when the latter played a blinder they hemmed and hawed and then offered him an assistant role equivalent to what he already had.


True story unfortunately. Greg Williams was the most influential advocate for Voss, and confided in a confidential conversation with Tim Watson about his certainty regarding Voss, before the interview process had concluded. As the head of the panel, his opinion carried significant weight in the final decision to appoint Voss over Kingsley.


Mate , Kingsley aint the second coming .

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 8:30 pm 
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Clearly there isn’t enough footy acumen on the board
A board member doesn’t have to have kicked a footy in their life
Again go back to the Elimination Final
Anyone with half an interest in the game would realise that Voss needed tactical assistance
The club sacked the head of fitness the coaching group hardly changed
Why did that happen
Round one 2025 same game plan same result

3 coaches are replaced halfway through 2025
Too late the horse had bolted
Whose fault?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 8:30 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
One of the blokes from the Ian Prendercast is life long best mates with Kingsley, and his contention is that Voss was chosen before Kingsley interviewed, and when the latter played a blinder they hemmed and hawed and then offered him an assistant role equivalent to what he already had.


True story unfortunately. Greg Williams was the most influential advocate for Voss, and confided in a confidential conversation with Tim Watson about his certainty regarding Voss, before the interview process had concluded. As the head of the panel, his opinion carried significant weight in the final decision to appoint Voss over Kingsley.


Mate , Kingsley aint the second coming .


Didn't say he was Mick. No one is.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 9:03 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
One of the blokes from the Ian Prendercast is life long best mates with Kingsley, and his contention is that Voss was chosen before Kingsley interviewed, and when the latter played a blinder they hemmed and hawed and then offered him an assistant role equivalent to what he already had.


True story unfortunately. Greg Williams was the most influential advocate for Voss, and confided in a confidential conversation with Tim Watson about his certainty regarding Voss, before the interview process had concluded. As the head of the panel, his opinion carried significant weight in the final decision to appoint Voss over Kingsley.


Mate , Kingsley aint the second coming .


Didn't say he was Mick. No one is.


Realise that Doc . Just don't get the he said she said discussion on how Voss landed the gig . For what its worth I think we dodged a bullet not landing Kingsley . I reckon GWS are miles better than us on paper yet are faring no better than us .

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 9:08 pm 
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GWS have had a bad run with injuries for over a year
At least Kingsley has a game plan that can succeed in modern day footy
And it doesn’t matter anyway


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 9:14 pm 
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keogh wrote:
GWS have had a bad run with injuries for over a year
At least Kingsley has a game plan that can succeed in modern day footy
And it doesn’t matter anyway


The Toby Greene / Finn O"Callaghan do your own thing game plan ?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 9:18 pm 
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I wonder if things would have been different if Cook had been there for the whole process.

From memory the timing was such that Cook only came on board at the end, in time to rubber stamp the appointment

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