Thanks Sas87...

So we're also going from 46 to 42..?

My brain is not quite figuring this out.... Has there been a rule change about list sizes?



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Mirkov contracted for 2022

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What a joke!

No change. We had 43 (42 plus 1 x Cat B). We added O-Mac due to Curnow LTI, then added 2 at Mid Season draft due to Marchbank and Cunningham LTIs. Hence why we have 46.

Have to get down to 42 as per list rules

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I think we only had 45 (did I miss one?) on the list in total at season's end. 36 Primary + 8 Cat A rookies + 1 Cat B rookie (Owies). List sizes aren't changing from 2021 to 2022, remaining at max 42 (Primary + Cat A, can be 36-6 or 37-5 or 38-4) in addition can have max 2 Cat B. Theoretically, you could start the season with 44 players if you use both Cat B spots. This year we added McDonald, Mirkov and Boyd via the SSP and mid-season drafts (as LTIs made spots available) taking us above the maximum by season's end.

To add Hewett, Cerra and Young to the primary list and take the minimum of 3 picks to the National Draft (also added to primary list) we still need to clear several players. So far only 2 definitely gone from the primary list (Murphy+Caboult) and only one (Betts) from Cat A. Basically would need another 4 spots on primary list to accommodate all that, either via delisting, trade outs or though rookie promotions (Cat A to Primary) which can count as our picks in the National Draft.

On the primary list my guess is two delistings (Gibbons+Ramsay), one trade out (SPS) and one rookie promotion (Kennedy). That'd leave two live picks at the National Draft. If there were no further delistings of Cat A rookies that would leave 6 and 1 Cat B rookie, for 43 players total.

ahhh you are right snakehips, miscount by me.

At end of 2021 we had 45 Players on the list
- 36 Main List
- 8 Rookies
- 1 x Cat B (Owies)

Murphy, Casbolt have come off main list, while SPS will be traded. Hewett signed, Cerra and Young to come, so that makes 36. Maximum main list size is 38 and we need to take 3 draft picks, so we need to delist at least 1 player.
LOB, Gibbons, Ramsay all uncontracted

Of the 9 Rookies (incl Owies)
4 Rookies are contracted for 2022. Mirkov, Kennedy, Honey and Owies (promoted from Cat B). Eddie has retired.
Boyd, Cottrell, Parks, O-Mac all out of contract and all in trouble, depending on delistings from main list.

It's max 42 players on primary plus rookie lists. So we can only list 4 Rookies if we have 38 on the main list.

All in all, if you haven't got a contract now, you are not likely to get one.

My preference would be to find a way to keep Ramsay and O-Mac

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LTI... Thanks SAS87!

Thanks Bondi too...
You are all GOLD!

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With SPS out and Young and Cerra in how many do we need to delist and how many do we need to take in draft

In isolation the SPS trade probably comes out as a loss, but when you look at our overall trading this period we are looking pretty good.

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I wonder if we've considered approaching the AFL for clarity around any potential move off of the list for Doc?

Ramanauskas precedent surely counts here. Makes a big difference regarding the final list spot and cap space, but also doesn't force Doc to make a premature decision on his future too.

Definitely a loss. Hope Cerra doesn't get Carltonised.

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Assuming no further trading of players, we need to delist one primary list player for each pick we wish to use in the National Draft. Minimum of 3 picks need to be used during ND, though any rookie list promotions we make count as one of those 3. So if we promote one player from the rookie list to the primary list, we'd still need to delist two senior list players to use our first two picks in the ND.

So If Kennedy and Honey come onto the list from the Rookie’s plus pick 25(?) that’s our 3.

Does that then mean 2 to go from the current list? LOB and Gibbo off list and down to Rookie if they want.

Mcdonald can stay as rookie.

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Great stuff Cazz...I didnt consider upgrading 2 rookies to avoid further delistings.

Its still early doors with the Trade period.....gosh its been an exciting one thus far.

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Rule change this year that we can't automatically downgrade from senior list to rookie.

We could hypothetically re-rookie LOB and Gibbo but would have to go through the drafts first.

Yep, that's my understanding.

Don't think we're allowed to just shift them from primary to rookie list this year. I believe that was a one-off arrangement this time last year. I think we would have to de-list them, then if nobody else picks them in ND, we would be able to select them in RD.

NB: Think Spooky just beat me to it.

Using that scenario then:

Two of LOB, Gibbons, Ramsay re-rookied, one delisted.
Two of Boyd, Cottrell, Parks, O-Mac kept, two delisted.