What are the mixed messages people are hearing from the club? I'd say there's a lack of detail, but I'm not getting mixed messages.

-We have a poor list and are rebuilding.
-Rebuilding doesn't have to mean constant losses. The club still want Mick to aim for wins each time we run out onto the field.
-Malthouse will see out his contract.

These are about the only messages I've heard from the club, and while some people might be confused by the statement that we're rebuilding but the expectation that we aim to win each weekend too, if you can tell the difference between rebuilding and tanking it shouldn't be that hard to understand.

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We need to be hopeless...it's our only hope...

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We need Obi Wan.

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I get the feeling they know they need to bottom out but we are in such a perilous financial predicament they dont want the stigma of 'bottoming out' to leak and affect sales so ..... they concoct some weird kind of smokescreen that is easily seen through by all and sundry. When the flawed statements are called out the resulting damage control is a partial admission that we are rebuilding without bottoming out. The scramble to protect the compromised cover story by adding another confusing cover story seems very 1970's and most see through it immediately, the press starts pulling it apart.

Now we are in no-mans land. It seems like one of those situations where everyone can prove that technically they are right.....but you still feel screwed over regardless.

My only hope is that this nothing we seem to be in is buying us time for a real plan that is playing out in the background. I wont hold my breath.

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I believe there is a system in place for using future draft picks, and we can always trade a 2nd round pick in to offset the costs to a satisfactory point.

Live trading on draft day would fix this immeasurably though.

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This x 1 billion...... WADA Needs to involve the AFL again, redirect the Nellies back to the Cheats thread

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Our supporters let the Herald Sun and Journalists run our club agenda.
Our club has held the line on the deciding the coaching position until the end of the year
We as supporters have jumped up and down faced with knee jerk reactions to coaching appointments and then when the club runs a rational process, we turn.
Supporters send a clear message to "stop the quick fixes" and backs that up with the appointment of a list manager and admits to a rebuild but won't afford the club a degree of patience.
Robbo is anti-carlton. of course he is calling for Malthouse's resignation because it would undermine the club's consistent agenda and keep Essendon* off the back page.

insert clever statement here ..

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Yeah well said. As for Robbo, it's a case of the flea trying to wag the dog. @#$%&! off you little cauliflower!!! Nobody cares what you think.

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Robbo is whatever the fat Flower he is. But what is indisputable is the gloom that we CFC fans are experiencing. What is indisputable is how toxic our club has become.

I also heard MLG say that they would look at the contract situation midway through the year - well that's only a few weeks away.

He said "second half of the year" That's is between Round 12 and the end of the season

And he's been consistent in saying that, don't get the point....

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Teague the point is its only a few weeks away and the executive has an opportunity to bring forward the coaching decision given the shocking on field performances ie "Mick we have decided to take a new direction at the end of the year and will not be renewing your contract"

From this point the executive should dictate the terms of how the remainder of the season plays out. If MM decides to stay till the end of the year then he must play a fair whack of kids if we are fair dinkum about re-building.

If he decides to walk well it's thank-you very much and see you later and we release a nice media bulletin.

What a disaster this has become.

He said, "2 or 3 flagons by 20:15"

Was talking about how much he was going to drink by 8:15pm at the next premiership's after party

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@#$%&! I hate Malthouse.

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Probably safe for him to cellar that wine.

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That list showed why we are in the diabolical position that is CFC - whilst thomas is ridiculous (and the cause of player unease) how the hell they be paying kruezer (no games since round 1 last year?) $400k and worse still the same amount to warnock. Whoever did those deals need scaking. That list says it all.

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I'd live to negotiate with the managers of Warnock and Kruezer. 200k tops or take the door. Thomas at 700k is just stupidity. No doubt MM insisted that one.

One of my best mates works with a girl who's hubby works for the Club (some admin role...forget which one). This guy reckons that morale throughout the whole club is horrendous, and has been for quite some time. In fact he dreads going to work each day. He says it all to do with warring factions across all on and off field areas (pro and anti Mick).

Only one answer......get rid of Mick anyway we can and do it pronto. 15 more rounds of this May set us back a long long time.

That's pretty much what I thought might be at play MIL; disappointing to have it confirmed.

Sounds like the playing list are coach killers as much as the board and the FD. @#$%&! horrendous.

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