Actually, it most certainly is.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

Agreed......definitely.

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..why though..?.. ..cos he died for the sins of others..?.. ..plenty of other prophets and saints have done that.. ..without the resurrection on easter sunday, there'd arguebly be no christianity..

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But would abolition of the holiday make the day of any less religious significance to those who believe? Surely you still would be against playing sport on that day? Or would you follow the Italians?

Why don't we turn this thread into a never ending and increasingly heated argument on Religion?........

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Idon'tthinkthat'saverygoodideaWarby.

IWUZJOKINCAZ !

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It's not important to all christians.

I'd like to think I have a decent enough grasp on the bible...in my understanding Jesus himself asked those around him to not celebrate his birth, they would celebrate, drink up and give each other presents..He said to them that what he did in his life carries importance not his birth.

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Not too sure about your biblical grasp there TBM...if you believe early Jewish law and tradition birthdays were not commemorated at all. Early Christians considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom and it wasn't until about 200AD that small groups started celebrating the birth of Christ. The only command Jesus gave concerning any sort of commemoration of his life actually had only to do with his death. Your Sunday School teacher may have led you astray on that one.

FANTASTIC IDEA - ABOLISH EASTER HOLIDAYS

Rename it Autumn break and run it over the Easter period.

Christians that want to celebrate Easter can still go for it hell for leather.

The rest of the community can do whatever they like. Really should a Muslim Halal butcher be forced to shut shop on a Christian holiday ?... that's insulting to the Muslim if you are not willing to shut your shops on his holy days.

Too much has changed since our holidays were formed, including the addition of squillions of non Christians to the nation, who should not be held to ransom by Christian religious holidays.
Neither should ppl born Christian but who are not religious be governed by a "religious holiday".

This is a quote from a buddhist book, that is similar to what Jesus said about realising the contribution of his life, if I've read this thread correctly.

'Scriptures, teachings and practices are not the ultimate way, they are just reflections of it. The true meaning of Dzogchen is your own nature, it is not something you need to find outside. Truth is not really found in books, it is only described in books.

Dzogchen is in my experience the most instant form of realisation in Tibetan Buddhism, ie. whatever is happening in your mind is reflected in the world around you, so this is reality in the present time. Learn to relate to your thoughts, accept them by relating to the world and all creatures (sentient beings) in it, to live your part in a full life. It's directness is somewhat comparable to Zen Buddhism, but incorporates a more rhythmic flow to the realisation of the existence of your nature, rather than a direct Zen sense of realisation.

If one understands this, one of the real positives about Tibetan buddhism is how the different schools of thought, which there are many, rarely say the others are wrong, they are just seen as differing views. In my work ( writing and art) this approach is very encouraging and positive, as one learns to accept the similairites in differing, at first seemingly contradicting aspects of life. Something as a whitefella with multiple religious/cultures in my background is very useful in the task of knowing myself. This approach of accepting similarities so differences are bridged, could bring religions closer together and make them more relevant to a society which needs to be unified and not follow a path of consumption of contemporary pursuits that lose points of reference/understanding of our historical context. ie. the origins of who we are and how our actions are made by our pasts (whatever your personal beliefs and thus experiences are.

So keep your hands on the wheel and your eyes on where you drive. Compeash

The book - 'Natural Great Perfection' by Nyoshul Khenpo - was given to me after an interview with Traleg Rinpoche, from the Karma Kagyu school of Tibetan Buddhism, the school with the most reliance on meditation practice. Traleg Rinpoche has resided in Melbourne since 1982 and now has dharma centres in four countries.

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Those arguing about religion stop wasting your time. We were put here by aliens. How do I know? They told me. Religion is just something earthlings need to give them some purpose in life.

Anyway, here is proof that aliens exist and they liked the blue M & M jumper.

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Things I agree with:

Synbad's broader argument (Western societies are becoming increasingly dumbed-down, soulless, baseless consumer-driven entities, losing touch with the things that really matter). I think this is largely true.

Christian symbolism and rituals have a place in modern Australia. Even though I don't follow any particular religion, I think it's important to recognise the forces that shaped the society we live in. Christianity played a hugely important role in shaping Australia, and making it the overwhelmingly good place it is to live. I don't see anything wrong with supporting the continuation of such things as Easter, Christmas, etc.

Good Friday is, currently, a day in which there is a severe shortage of external stimulus. If you're not so good at making your own fun, then I can see why you'd struggle on Good Friday.

The CFC would make a buck, and strengthen its brand, if it owned football on this day.

The thing I don't agree with:

That non-Christians are somehow being "held to ransom" on this day, but Christians. At last count, there were about nineteen million different things you can do on Good Friday, and about a dozen you can't. I really don't see what's so bad about being forced to break the cycle of consumption for one day a year - and maybe try something different. Go for a long walk, have a long lunch with family or friends, go camping, read a good book, catch up on a few movies, cook something slow and delicious, whatever.

I guess the point I'm making is that while I don't practice Christianity myself, I think that the rituals associated with it are of benefit to the broader society. A bit of 'enforced' time to slow down, reflect, break the cycle of consumption... is good for the soul.

And it's only ONE DAY. If you can survive the bloody horse-racing season, you can survive a single day with no footy, surely.

Besides - I always take a family trip at Easter, so I never see us play then anway

John, there is no place for common sense in the argument.

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It sounds like your issue actually has nothing to do with footy on GF and more to do with the degeneration of modern society.

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Love tells me I am everything
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People are divided on whether we should play on Good Friday
People are divided on religious beliefs
People are divided

Is religion dividing people?

In terms of having good friday holiday because Western society is cracking at the seems (not sure how this arguement started), people just need to be the best they can, care for others, respect one another and give to those that need your giving - religion doesn't need to teach people that. It doesn't matter what you believe in, you believe in these morals then people will appreciate you and you will go to a good place in the after life.

Now lets play football at the church called the MCG on Good Friday!!! The majority of people want it (according to HUN poll) so game on.

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I can't believe this even has to be debated.

If you are religous go to church and miss the footy, if you don't go to church on GF don't get all righteous about footy being played on this day.

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Yeah...I know less than I think I do...sometimes.

I suppose when you look at it...Jesus told us to get together in remembrance of him...whether it is done on Easter Friday like the Catholics do, or on, or as close to, Nisan 14 like the Jehovah's Witnesses do it is still being done.

Good Friday is just a day chosen by the Catholics and the Memorial a day chosen by the JW's. (although the JW's day changes from year to year just like an anniversary should)

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