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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:52 am 
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Heres an idea.. volunteer your services to go to work on that day.....


Are you a volunteer? I am. I am available to help the community 365 days a year, 24 hours a day. I have been for getting close to a decade.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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funny how only some posts are edited...


So report other ones which you feel breach rules and should be edited.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:09 pm 
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My point is that even in Italy, one of the most archly conservative religious countries, they play Serie A soccer on Good Friday. So that argument is a non-starter.

If it was about religion, then we wouldn't have Sunday footy at all.

And to appease Jewish supporters, we wouldn't have it on Saturday either.

So where would that leave us?

Did the AFL listen remotely to requests by Melbourne to have more matches for them scheduled for Sunday, to allow Joe Gutnick and other Jews to watch matches? So much for taking any religious concerns into account.

The mask of religion is a silly reason not to play footy on Good Friday. If you don't wish to go to a footy match on Good Friday, then that's your call if you don't feel it doesn't fit in with your beliefs. Plenty of posters have pointed out that there's no reason that Good Friday matches couldn't be played at a time which would fit in with peoples' observance of religion. And on top of that, all tickets could have a $2 surcharge to go to the RCH appeal.

In modern Australia, people with more devout faiths have to accept that some people don't wish to be held to ransom by a minority, and their desires to watch footy on a day like Good Friday should be considered maturely, not dismissed outright for specious reasons.



Eloquently put.

The suggestion that Good Friday is one when families get together would be in a minority of cases, but for the rest of us irrelevant. If people want to have a family day, then not only can they have Good Friday, but there are 364 other days they can avail themselves of the opportunity as well.

It's equally absurd to accuse people of being boring because they want to go to the football. Good Friday is one of the few public holidays available during the football season, and for those of us who work on weekends, also one of the few occasions to go to the footy.

As has been stated elsewhere, if people don't want to watch the football on Good Friday, that's their choice, but don't let the beliefs of the active minority unnecessarily get in the way of the majority.



My point is .. Good friday is good friday right?
Its a RELIGIOUS holiday.... yes??? no?????

so unless it gets taken off the holiday gig... cos its a religious holiday and no longer relevant.. like KK thinks... just like singing Xmas carols have been.. etc.. by certain groups who want to see it knocked over.. it should be treated with the respect it is.

Until its rerplaced by a holiday in honour of umm say trees.. or clouds... or mice.. or car day.... its a religious holiday.

Take it off the holiday list... love to see some groups try that... or leave it for what it is... :thumbsup:

now if some people get bored easily .. they should find something to do.

Footballers shouldnt have to work cos u are on holidays....

Weird....

funny how pathetic some people think about their own lives

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:43 pm 
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..religion shouldn't have a say in sport.. ..simply put, why does one religion have precedence over another?, in a so-called multi-cultural country..?.. ..either we scrap them all, or we give holidays for all..

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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..religion shouldn't have a say in sport.. ..simply put, why does one religion have precedence over another?, in a so-called multi-cultural country..?.. ..either we scrap them all, or we give holidays for all..

as things stand its a holiday for good friday ... yes????

thats what it is....

easter holiday....

so either scrap it.. or it does have a say....

write into brumby and get it taken off the holiday calendar...

KK and friends will help you....

replace it with 'Car day'.. then we can all get in our cars and drive to the footy on Good Car day....

Or Panasonic Plasma Sunday....

But it is a religious holiday at the moment....

.... thats what you get the day off for...

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:12 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
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My point is that even in Italy, one of the most archly conservative religious countries, they play Serie A soccer on Good Friday. So that argument is a non-starter.

If it was about religion, then we wouldn't have Sunday footy at all.

And to appease Jewish supporters, we wouldn't have it on Saturday either.

So where would that leave us?

Did the AFL listen remotely to requests by Melbourne to have more matches for them scheduled for Sunday, to allow Joe Gutnick and other Jews to watch matches? So much for taking any religious concerns into account.

The mask of religion is a silly reason not to play footy on Good Friday. If you don't wish to go to a footy match on Good Friday, then that's your call if you don't feel it doesn't fit in with your beliefs. Plenty of posters have pointed out that there's no reason that Good Friday matches couldn't be played at a time which would fit in with peoples' observance of religion. And on top of that, all tickets could have a $2 surcharge to go to the RCH appeal.

In modern Australia, people with more devout faiths have to accept that some people don't wish to be held to ransom by a minority, and their desires to watch footy on a day like Good Friday should be considered maturely, not dismissed outright for specious reasons.



Eloquently put.

The suggestion that Good Friday is one when families get together would be in a minority of cases, but for the rest of us irrelevant. If people want to have a family day, then not only can they have Good Friday, but there are 364 other days they can avail themselves of the opportunity as well.

It's equally absurd to accuse people of being boring because they want to go to the football. Good Friday is one of the few public holidays available during the football season, and for those of us who work on weekends, also one of the few occasions to go to the footy.

As has been stated elsewhere, if people don't want to watch the football on Good Friday, that's their choice, but don't let the beliefs of the active minority unnecessarily get in the way of the majority.



My point is .. Good friday is good friday right?
Its a RELIGIOUS holiday.... yes??? no?????

so unless it gets taken off the holiday gig... cos its a religious holiday and no longer relevant.. like KK thinks... just like singing Xmas carols have been.. etc.. by certain groups who want to see it knocked over.. it should be treated with the respect it is.

Until its rerplaced by a holiday in honour of umm say trees.. or clouds... or mice.. or car day.... its a religious holiday.

Take it off the holiday list... love to see some groups try that... or leave it for what it is... :thumbsup:

now if some people get bored easily .. they should find something to do.

Footballers shouldnt have to work cos u are on holidays....

Weird....

funny how pathetic some people think about their own lives



Using that logic, there should be no football on Easter Sunday, as it's a religious holiday as well.

So what if it's a religious holiday? Christians have been given a public holiday by the government to practice their faith, which is more than other religions have been provided. So now your argument is that it's not good enough to be given a public holiday to practice faith, the rest of the community has to be lumped with it as well. Religious holidays are an anachronism in today's secular society and should be abolished. If absolutely necessary, make a provision for three days each year for 'faith holidays', where people of each belief can then have their worship and family time.

Yes, it's a religious holiday, but as KK rightly pointed out, it doesn't seem to bother the Italians who play football on Good Friday. The United States play football and basketball on Christmas Day.

Why insult people who want to watch football on Good Friday as being boring? Why not acknowledge that the majority of people are not as full of religious passion as you are? Why not stop bludgeoning people with your faith and insults and start recognising other people's perspectives.

Our society already bends over backwards to accommodate religion, and especially Christianity through tax concessions, holidays and other social impositions, so to allow a game of football on Good Friday is hardly too much to ask.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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..as things stand, currently.. ..sure.. ..it also shows how much we are 'not' a secular country, but are in fact a christian country.. ..and personally, i think religion should stick to religion.. ..it shouldn't be dictating govt. policy.. ..i'd feel a lot better knowing we were strictly secular.. ..as it is though, if we truely wanted to celebrate religious holidays, how come only christian..?.. ..what about other religions.. ..hell, we don't even have any days off for our aborigines' beliefs [that i know of].. ..it's a joke to celebrate and commercialise one religion, and ignore all others.. ..in a country whose multi-ethnicity is growing by the year..

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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the hospital appeal has more significance to me on GF than religion, footy or a holiday

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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the hospital appeal has more significance to me on GF than religion, footy or a holiday


Channel 7 had planned to work the appeal in with their coverage. A twilight game that would lead into their appeal gala event showed at night.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Look, people that think its a massive money spinner are dreaming.

Money will be created when the club is working properly.. not cos of a single blockbuster!

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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The one thing I can't reconcile is how Synbad's Easter very rarely falls on the public holiday (as Synbad is Orthodox).... so I can't understand why he would be so passionate about this particular day. I mean, on Orthodox Good Friday, there is almost always a game under way.

Demetriou is Greek Orthodox too.... does he abstain from Footy functions on Orthodox Good Friday?

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:47 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..religion shouldn't have a say in sport.. ..simply put, why does one religion have precedence over another?, in a so-called multi-cultural country..?.. ..either we scrap them all, or we give holidays for all..

as things stand its a holiday for good friday ... yes????

thats what it is....

easter holiday....

so either scrap it.. or it does have a say....

write into brumby and get it taken off the holiday calendar...

KK and friends will help you....

replace it with 'Car day'.. then we can all get in our cars and drive to the footy on Good Car day....

Or Panasonic Plasma Sunday....

But it is a religious holiday at the moment....

.... thats what you get the day off for...


Ridiculous argument

Religious holiday for you .....not for others....face it its outdated and Christianity is dying in the West.....but isn't Easter Monday a religious holiday also ?...where are the objections to footy on that day ?

And its like saying on Cup Day nothing should occur except the Cup...bcoz thats what the holiday is for.

And on Anzac Day nothing should happen except the Anzac Parade, bcoz that is what that holiday is for.

For most Aussies Good Friday is just a normal holiday that religious Christians consider of religious importance.

Like years ago when we had no Sunday trading....what a great idea that was.....until change occurred.....change is good....I'm happy I can out for lunch on Sunday (which was a holiday for the Christian Sabbath) :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Synbad wrote:
Look, people that think its a massive money spinner are dreaming.

Money will be created when the club is working properly.. not cos of a single blockbuster!


500 pcs to a puzzle placed correctly....this is perhaps one of them

If you dont think the Anzac day game has strengthened coll/Ess finances and brand you are fooling urself


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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Dunno how you blokes think its my religious holiday.....

its not....


im actually orthodox and my good friday falls rarely with the usual one.

so its not about me personally....



:lol:


its about the nation and its falling away.... with drugs and alcohol.. and reliance to materialism... and just boredom and weak family values...fast food and zero culture

but love our plasma screens and credit cards

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Why do you have a problem with footy being played on Good Friday and not Easter Monday?

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Synbad wrote:
Dunno how you blokes think its my religious holiday.....

its not....


im actually orthodox and my good friday falls rarely with the usual one.

so its not about me personally....



:lol:


its about the nation and its falling away.... with drugs and alcohol.. and reliance to materialism... and just boredom and weak family values...fast food and zero culture

but love our plasma screens and credit cards


But football is the antithesis to a " nation and its falling away.... with drugs and alcohol.. and reliance to materialism... and just boredom and weak family values...fast food and zero culture".

Footy is about families going to the game together, spending quality time together, enjoying the spectacle, having fun.

Many people are working longer hours than ever, and on weekends.

Often people can't make a lot of games during the year due to work.

Let people have an option, on good friday, to go to the footy.

If you don't like it don't go.

But it's coming whether you like it or not.

And let's hope Carlton grabs the opportunity on offer.

Otherwise we'll be here in 10 years with maybe a hawthorn an Essendon* playing, and raking in the $$$$, and you'll be sitting here saying how it's good we aren't playing because good friday football represents the decay of society. :hitcomputer:


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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Good Friday is the most sacred day on the Christian calendar. So playing sport on Sunday or Xmas is not relevant.

Synbad made a good point. The day is given as a public holiday for the celebration of Good Friday. So rather than campaign for footy on a public holiday, you should be campaigning for the abolition of the public holiday. Then we could play 4 footy games that day.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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buzzaaaah wrote:
Good Friday is the most sacred day on the Christian calendar. So playing sport on Sunday or Xmas is not relevant.

Synbad made a good point. The day is given as a public holiday for the celebration of Good Friday. So rather than campaign for footy on a public holiday, you should be campaigning for the abolition of the public holiday. Then we could play 4 footy games that day.


..not to get side-tracked, but i don't reckon Good Friday ranks as the christian's most sacred day..

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