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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:51 am 
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mikkey wrote:
I think we all should build a bridge and move on.


I think this thread shows that many have.

And I'm not going to say that it won't hurt to see Fev play good football for another team...more so of course if it is against us....but I am in full agreeance with the need to move him on and won't flip-flop from that decision.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:40 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
The trade has already been a success.
For the first time in a long time, CFC had the balls to make a hard decision to trade a quality player who was a disruptive influence. Too often we have made excuses and concessions for flower.
I applaud the club for having the guts to put culture and team standards above personal interest. Even if it was largely forced upon them.


What about the bit about how we now have genuine alternative marketing/promotional options so we can afford to finally flick him? :razz:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:58 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
And with Caro doing her best to stir things up it's nice that Fevola is now someone else's problem.


Caro said: "...the bottom line is that Fevola is a crowd-pleaser and a promotional tool."

Do you think she's bypassing the swear filter? :razz:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:29 pm 
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I think it wont be until next season starts that we realise what we have lost, but we have no choice but to move on no matter how hard that will be and what effect it will have on the clubs performances.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:31 pm 
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Actually, there are 2 things we have lost.

1 is a Coleman Medal winning footballer, the other is a guy who can't stay out of trouble and was a disruptive influence.

Just depends on which you place a higher value.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:43 pm 
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Mrs Caz wrote:
Actually, there are 2 things we have lost.

1 is a Coleman Medal winning footballer, the other is a guy who can't stay out of trouble and was a disruptive influence.

Just depends on which you place a higher value.



We have lost nothing

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:14 pm 
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C'mon Sydney...to be fair...you can't deny he was a Coleman Medal Winning footballer.

As I said, some will choose to only see that side of him...and so will probably judge the trade poorly.

Not me but.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:18 pm 
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If we can get 200 games of good football out of hendersen and pick 12 we have probably are ahead as we lost nothing and improved our culture

If we get 350 games of good football out of hendersen and 12 the swap has been an overwhelming success

If Brisbane get a 350 to 400 goal Full Forward and a solid 100 games from pick 27 and hendo plays 40 games and pick 12 is a dud well then we have made a monumental error


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:20 pm 
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Uuuuummmmmmmmmmm

I'd originally intended the thread so we could look back mid-year next year and compare Fevola's performances against any objective metric. It's abit hard to do that if we win either way :wink:

Seems like that is very much the concensus here.

(That being said, if you took the Fevola out of Fevola and made him the generic forward option, would there be any on-field metrics you would look at for comfort?)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:27 pm 
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molsey wrote:
By what measure will you judge the Fevola trade?


I'm pretty sure i'll measure the Fevola trade in Decibels. Or to be more exact the sound of my laugh when Brown and Fevola collide going for a mark and knock each other out 10 minutes into the first quarter, Round 2, 2010.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:29 pm 
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What I dont get about Caro ARTICLE and AFL is instead of the Herald Sun journalist being pivotal to all this why dont the AFL simply interview other people at the night in respect to the alleged behaviour ie Gibbs girlfriend Gibbs the Twiggler Juddy Murphy Tredrea -AFL have stringent investigatory powers to make the players at least tell the truth in relation to what happened and if allegations unfounded tell everyone and case closed

It is really convenient for the AFL that the basis for taking action is dependent on this poor girl putting her whole career etc on the line and agreeing to be interviewed- why would she go through the humiliation - Ken Wood in relation to salary cap breaches simply calls players in and their spouses and interviews them -reviews bank records etc - Dont tell me in relation to the respect and responsibility the investigators powers dont go that far -or is this policy just tokenism by the AFL :mad:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:35 pm 
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like others, i think we have already had a net win.

however, measure of success = more memberships in 2010. The members/supporters will vote with their wallett.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:37 pm 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
molsey wrote:
By what measure will you judge the Fevola trade?


I'm pretty sure i'll measure the Fevola trade in Decibels. Or to be more exact the sound of my laugh when Brown and Fevola collide going for a mark and knock each other out 10 minutes into the first quarter, Round 2, 2010.


Hi there Doc

Can you just explain that a little more; is that a personal dig at Fevola or a football view that Brisbane are mad to have 2 key forwards like that in the one team?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:38 pm 
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Oh dear, I agree with Blue Vain, Wojee and Bluechucky on something.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:46 pm 
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molsey wrote:
Hi there Doc

Can you just explain that a little more; is that a personal dig at Fevola or a football view that Brisbane are mad to have 2 key forwards like that in the one team?


The latter. Two bulls in the one paddock never works. I like watching Brown a lot, but his back/kidney region could be in for a bruising. One clash, and Fev will be leading exclusively toward the boundary.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:52 pm 
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I'll judge the trade by the number of times I cringe in 2010 when I hear the words "AFL player involved in {insert incident}"

Also, the test will be how many players we can get to score 20+ goals with a Premiership side needing upwards of 8.

Just hope someone points Fev in the direction of schoolies . . . .

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:06 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
I'll judge the trade by the number of times I cringe in 2010 when I hear the words "AFL player involved in {insert incident}"


And if it's a Carlton player, will the trade be a success or failure?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:30 pm 
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BlueMark wrote:
Oh dear, I agree with Blue Vain, Wojee and Bluechucky on something.



I feel very dirty



Come on, you want to be just like us all the time.
You're just in denial.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:03 pm 
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For me it will be really nice to watch the boys during the warm up without having to psycho analyse the body language of one man to determine what sort of night we were in for. Nor will my game be officially ruined by the first hold in the man decision missed by an umpire.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:09 pm 
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I didn't believe for a minute that Fev would be off our list mainly because imo there wouldn't be a suitable trade on offer to match the value of goalkicking Fev.

We have 2 round 1 picks for him and that spells hope, and future for me. I have more optimism for the future with the trade than I did before.

I have no problem feeling good about the fact that the problem child is off our list. Now the kids have more personal space and become real leaders rather than ringside leaders at the Fev show..

I believe the list is fantastic and we have a better opportunity to develop that multi prong forwardline we've all been craving for....and I believe we have the personnel to do so.

No matter what happens I feel that the move was a significant milestone for a great club culture. The team is greater than the individual. Now we don't have to worry about what Fev will do on field, off field or on TV.

Moving forward. I will think the trade will be a huge success if Hendo and pick 12 turn out great.
If we can have our top 8 goalkickers kick around 266 goals for the season and if we are in the finals without Fev.

No doubt in my mind Hendo and pick 12 will be around when Fev retires.

It will hurt if Fev wins a Flag with the Lions. I don't believe for a second that will happen.

So lets wait and see, but I can see clearer now than I have for the past 7 years.

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