Walker..........Kreuzer............Gibbs

Betts/Yarran............Bradshaw.......Henderson



Kreuzer and Henderson to rotate between who plays up field

Now all we have to do is get Bradshaw

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Walker..........Kreuzer............Gibbs

Betts/Yarran............Bradshaw.......Henderson



Kreuzer and Henderson to rotate between who plays up field

Now all we have to do is get Bradshaw

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Agree with Molly and BV that I would like to see Mark Austin given a chance to establish himself down forward...wehn he played there for the Bullants in few games I thought he was impressive. Led well to the ball, had strong hands and kicked straight...unlike a few others I dont see Henderson as the replacement for Fev at FF and think he is better suited at CHB or CHF.

We can pinch hit with Cloke but thst bandaiding and if Bradshaw doesnt eventuate I would try Austin at FF in the preseason comp and persist with him...

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+1

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Be that as it may, Cloke was better when he went there. Cloke is young, big, hard at it (except against Setanta) leads and marks well and his kicking has improved out of sight.
I'm not sure trying him there is a bandaid. IMO, worth a try. Austin is being touted as a backman and has played his few games there. Our forward line seems to have options, even with no Fev (or maybe because of no Fev). Our backline needs strengthening up and then consistently playing the same six. We proved last year that the team can kick goals without Fev but we conceded too many goals to be a true contender. Let's fix that up before we try moving Austin or Thornton forward. Waite, of course is the exception to my argument and should just play where he likes.

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Sorry BS but IMO as soon as the ball hits the ground, we're playing with 17 players when Cloke's in the forward line.

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+1

Cloke can mark, but lets be serious here, he also fluffs alot of gimmes.

He is sluggish at best when defending. There's enough evidence from games against the top 10 teams in the past to back that up.

Cloke and Fisher should be considered, but only as a last resort.

There's enough talls on the list to play forward (Waite, Kreuzer, Hampson and Setanta)and others who we can develop like Austin and Hendersen.

I like Austin as a CHB and would prefer him as our long term CHB. Having said that, it all depends on how many talls we play down back, 3 or 4, and that is dependent on the pace and mobility of those in line:Jamison, Thornton, Bower are all pretty mobile. And who plays on the 200cm Tippett types? Setanta?

The backline's success, as we know, is dependent on the success of our midfield in getting the ball and providing defensive support going the other way. The midfield hasn't gone backwards for 2010, in fact with the inclusion of McLean and the return of Hadley, along with the natural progress from maturity and another preseason under the belt of Murphy, Gibbs, and even Betts and Robinson.

I am more excited with our prospects post Fevola than I was in the Fevola era. So much choice, so much upside. We can see trees for wood now.

Stop us if you can.

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GIBBS............!

there i said it............!


kindest regards tommi

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HF:Walker...Henderson....Houlihan
FF:Betts...Stetanta...Gibbs

Expect Kreuz to play in Ruck

Gibbs to swap on the ball with Judd - no rest for the wicked

Houlihan to play high HF and use those silky skills to deliver to the forward line

Originally had Waite in the Walker position, but with the knee think will play back most of the year

A big NO for Cloke from me too! Just not up to it in my opinion we're better off trying someone else who'll be a long term solution ie Waite, Kreuuz-ner, Hendo, Aussie... plenty of options ahead of cloke.

Also I'm not sure I understand where the "don't play waite up forward cos of his knee" brigade are coming from. I would've thought it was the other way round. If there are any concerns about his injury it's better off playing him up forward rather than in the backline.

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YARRAN!!





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Yeah i agree mate some people have argued that he shouldnt play forward because he might re-injure his knee with the twists and turns but seriously, you do just as much (if not more) of that in the backline by having to change direction to follow you're opponent and be desperate to smother and tackle etc. In the forward line Waite could just camp in the goalsquare or try to be a straight lead-up forward, leading in a straight line directly at the ball carrier. It may help him to play loose man rather than have an actual opponent he has to cover and be responsible for if in defence. That could be the go. I dont know i just think that no matter where you play, you'll be at risk and will be putting pressure on the knee by jumping, stopping, turning etc.

The best outcome i can think of is Waite playing loose man in defence, that will probably protect his knee a bit more.

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IIR, that's where he was playing when it happened.

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Call me crazy, but...

Yarran - Henderson - Walker
Betts - Wiggins - Garlett

It's all pace and defensive pressure.

Wiggins has super pace off the lead and sure hands. His kicking for goal may be questionable, but it's not hopeless. But he plays on taller blokes down back, and is strong and mature-bodied, so he creates a contest and he has crumbers deep. But imagine being a defender against that line-up. 5 of the 6 guys are super quick and work hard. All of them are good marks and most of them can play taller than they are.

It's not a bad line-up.

you're crazy

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Its AFL. No matter what position you are of course at risk of such an injury. Im just saying i think it will lower the chance of it happening rather than him planing as a pure defender or forward.

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poor old wiggo - he cant bloody kick it straight over a jam tin.....

FF? you r crazy!

Think outside the square everyone.

It's HAMMER TIME

The big man at FF......super quick for his size, 200cm+,aggressive.

He has 2 deficiencies.....his marking which will improve with time, repitition and confidence.

And his body strength which will improve when he bulks up. Anyone remember Paul Salmon?

If Tippet, Jesse White can do it, why not Hammer?

Leave Kruez and Knockers to change in the ruck....problem solved, what a nightmare for the opposition. Carlos to rove around CHF until the Henderson kid comes good....awesome

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Jacobs is essential as Knockers' availability is not known yet.

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Thank god someone took the offer.

I reckon you're wrong. Distance is not Wiggins' problem, only accuracy.