Yes

But didn't Hawks win the same GF with Dunstall and Brereton (2 Power forwards) contributing to the win?

2 power forwards are better than 1. How about Brown and Bradshaw 2002-2004 and still winning games for the Lions with the kids in tow.

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Fair point Kezza - and I doubt that Fev would/could be perfect either - he will still be Fev!! However I doubt that Geelong regret the fact that they chose to give Johnson one last chance rather than taking the so called strong stance and delisting him. I hope Carlton take this opportunity to give Fev the fright of his life - and have him bounce into shape off field, so that we (Carlton) can benefit from his magic on field ... just as Geelong/Johnson have.

The Lions had 3 when you add Lynch.

QFT

Even 50% kind Mrs C.

I was seated in front section amongst coterie groups, players and their parents.

Yes, there was a block of tables who cheered at Fev's every mention. 1500 people attended and it was nowhere near half of the room.

There was an embarrassing and obvious lack of response at the mention of his name in the area where I was seated.

Read into that what you will.

Thanks Kots awesome work!!

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That's because they were drinking this...

I just saw the video again,; that is purely hilarious.

Steven Seagal Steven Seagal, Pressure Point , Pressure Point!!!

LMAO

Totally harmless & blown out of proportion.

I knew there was another one.....they're not Carlton, so I am allowed to forget them.

Point is: Power Forwards are more important than some posters care to acknowledge. I know deep down they know...and would love to have an Ablett in their team in 2010.

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I'm with you Blue4. I do think that anyone who sees it and doesn't get a bit of a laugh are just taking life too seriously. How can Fev's activities dominate headlines for so long, and potentially see him sacked - when he was just having some harmless (in a physical sense) fun, yet Michael Hurley has assaulted some taxi driver, and many others have been involved in antics which have actually threatened or injured others (inc Fev in Ireland I guess!!) - surely Fev 'mucking around' is nothing in that context. Having said that - the response should give him the wake up call that he needs sufficient to prevent future 'indescretions', and maybe give those around him a hieghtened consciousness to try and control him more in the future. Lets face it - he's probably not the brightest card in the pack ... but he can play footy!!!!

Never knew having a good time was a crime - there are alot of flower in this world.

WooooWWWW I got a stiffy!

Thats not what the hoo ha is about......

assaults.
lewd behaviour
sexual harassment....

and other stuff...

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I only got to see the video this morning. I couldn't stop laughing at the pressure point / Steven Seagal jibes at Judd - who seemed to take it with good grace. Clearly however that is not the main point here.

Personally I think that there is one massive difference with this particular SNAFU by Brendan, and that is that for the first time there is extensive footage for him to see what he behaves like - when he can't remember what he has done.

Previously there has been the odd 'incriminating' photo (e.g. Naughtons mad monday d1ldo) or grainy security footage (e.g. Ireland & urinating on a wall). If you are the type of person who occasionally binges to the point of not remembering, you will generally not believe that you have really acted in that bad a fashion, because you will just not identify with the actions that other people report you to have done. So you go into denial. The difference this time is that he is personally confronted with footage of what he turns into when he loses it through grog. And that is one massive difference for him. I'll bet it has rocked him to his core as a person.

I can't help but think that it would be ironic for the club to cut ties with him now when he has probably been faced for the first real time ever with the irrevocable proof of why he should not drink in public - if at all. I would also like to think that if the footage that 'couldn't be shown' is so much worse, that he has access to some quality counselling when viewing it.

Whatever we say here will have no bearing on whether he stays or goes, but lets not forget that he is only a fallible human being and right now will be doing it really really tough.

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Just because you didn't see it on the Footy Show, doesn't mean nothing else happened.

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I have been watching and reading with great interest.
The thing is sometimes a lamb has to be sacrificed for the good of the flock.
Fev is without a doubt a super talent, but talent is not enough without application, ALL of the time.
He was representing the club, the same as you or me at a christmas party, now if we got pissed and made tools of ourselves that CAN be grounds for dismissal, IF it was a one off or even 2 or 3 you can say, 'give him a slap and send him to the naughty step. But it's not an isolated incident.
SO, do the club say,
NO-ONE can act up and enforce it when they do, to the letter of their law or
do the club say no-one act up or it will be enforced, except Brendan, cos he can kick 100 goals.
I know that clubs and managers have a hard time, and I am not a big Ratts fan, but Geez he has a tough job here, Tough because he really has to MANAGE this situation and the man. SOme players need a kick in the arse, some need an arm around their shoulders and good managers know which is which, but how many times is realistic for Brett to pull Fev to one side and say, 'Son, talk to me, whats wrong, what can we do to help you'. I would think it is a matter of time before other players start wondering WTF is going on here, I get dropped for not putting it in in training and Fev messes up time and again and is not only here but getting more attention from the manager and board because of it.

I think Sydney had the right idea where players got a big say on other players, i.e. Hall, when he stuffed up he knew he let the others down, I don't think Fev realises this. It's not taking responsibility for ones owns actions and ownership of his problems, which he clearly has. Fev has a problem with gargle, therfore, don't drink, in the footage of his footy show appearance his wife said something telling to Richardson, who I think is a sneaky little sharp thing you find on rose bushes, he should have ben a mate and covered up, instead he went looking for comments to highlight Fev, anyway, Mrs Fev said, when he gets like this I leave him to it, I have kids upstairs to look after. Now if for no other reason, teammates etc, there are some reasons right there to grow up. Because no matter what its like to see himself, it should hurt a lot more to know one day his kids will see Daddy behave like this and with the internet and peoples memories, will be aware that it wasn't Daddy being silly, it was Daddy being silly AGAIN.

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Yep, Beano, this is a sad business.
I tried to say in my post above that perhaps / maybe there is something different in this incident that can be worked on to save the career of our FF.

I shudder to think at the the lost productivity of us CFC supporters who are stressing over this ATM. Lighten up you/ me/us lot FFS!!!

Synbad raised the valid point of Fev's possible future after footy. At the minute if he doesn't wake up
to himself, that future would appear somewhat bleak.

Fev could do worse than check out what Ronnie Wearmouth is up to these days.

Not a pretty picture, the booze has seen him lose practically everything, family, money, and his pub.

Last I heard of Ronnie has was renting a room at the back of a fish and chip shop in Williamstown.

Those that say they don't care what Fev does off the field are missing one important point.

Whatever Fev does in the future the media will follow. Good or bad news reports will always start out
''former Carlton full forward Brendan Fevola................''.

Hopefully those reports would be about how Brendan has turned his life around and is doing well.

But they could just as easily be the reverse. And Carlton will always be mentioned either way.

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Yes.
There should be nothing our club can't do resource,leadership and counselling wise that other clubs can do.
It will be a massive turning point,and a victory for everyone if we can get Brendan through this.
I'd like to see him have chat with Bob Hawke.

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