You need to read what was written again.
You are missing the point.

Well, the media are gathering around Optus Oval as we speak and the rumour is that he is gone.

This is reported by SEN so who really knows...

I don't think that - after all, they're professionals.

If we aren't going to be offered a trade, or for someone to take his entire contract for nothing, the next option (possibly, just throwing it out there) is to give him 12 games for the H&A year. That's it 12 games. We choose when he plays but he doesn't play any more than that.

At the end of 2010 we offer him up for trade again, his attitude and ability on field will determine his value.

This way the ball returns to the clubs side of the court and Fev learns the hard way that he's no longer the boss.

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I don't think anyone is saying that we should not try to get whatever we can in return for him; just that the decision should not hinge on what we can get. The decision should be about what the club stands for (if it stands for anything )

Waiting another 2 years, you're kidding aren't you. There 's only one reason we play and support footy, to win flags, no other reason, not for players to be the moral pillars of society. Not into the losers mentality.

That type of political correctness hasn't kicked in with me yet. At least with the Eagles bad culture they won a flag. So much there for infecting. All I, and many others, care about. The rest is not our problem.

..it's not about being a good role model.. ..it's about how he's treating the club.. ..it's officials, coaches and players..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

There are replacements out there...

Barry Hall and Matthew Lloyd.

The biggest issue is offloading his salary to someone else.

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NOW YOU'RE JUST SOME CLUB THAT I USED TO KNOW.

I beg to differ - Fev has been given numerous wake up calls dating back to almost being sacked in 2002.

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What are you saying George? That Lloyd is a possibility?

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

As soon as Caro said he was gone I knew he'd be lining up for us next year.

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Congratulations CK95

Again on the pragmatic as opposed to moralistic side of the argument.......

there is a fundamental bias in human decision making called the 'sunk-costs' bias......it basically states that the more resources/investment you have put into a plan, the more likely you will be to see that plan through, even if it becomes apparent that plan may be flawed.

Again my concern is that the decision making is too influenced by having arguably the best power forward in the comp over the last 10 years and not yet maximising a return from that, that we begin pouring too many resources (mental or physical) into that plan at the expense of putting resources into the contingency plan.

If we don't net a premiership in the next 2-3 years we may rue that.

I agree, but I don't think the boys will have the necessary mental strength and conditioning to win on grand final day for at least another 3 or 4 years.

I don't think Fevola will be around that long.

If some of the things I've heard are right, then he should not only be gone, but have to run the gauntlet on the way out.

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Gaga and The Hoff party hard in London

The goat, bleach and handcuffs? You heard THAT one?

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Congratulations CK95

Just hope Sticks and the boys have the balls to put Fev up for trade while he still has some currency,
and not just have another of these meetings ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YawagQ6l ... re=related

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Number 17 - come on down!

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Gaga and The Hoff party hard in London

dont suppose anyone wants to pm me with what they have heard?

the first person to pre-met was over on bigfooty... they reckon the meeting is done and fev is up for trade...

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