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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:13 am 
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BlueMark wrote:
I am not defending Brendans behaviour in any way.

I have learnt that he may have been on some painkillers since his shoulder op. Mix painkillers and alcohol and you have a major problem as the effect of the alcohol is magnified by the painkillers.

That said Brendan needs to address his public behaviour and that can only be done by him giving up the grog.


Not only was he on painkillers but he claims antibiotics as well.

These drugs come with warning stickers "WARNING - DO NOT MIX WITH ALCOHOL"

It is not an excuse, it just makes him look even more stupid for pissing up so hard and ignoring the drug/alcohol warnings.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:20 am 
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How many get a chance to restart our lives with a clean sheet on $700,000 after a few indiscretions?
Sounds OK to me.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:20 am 
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Can you believe we've been going on with this crap for as long as this?

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5206&start=320

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:27 am 
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I think by reading this thread and others on line its pretty much 50/50 re: our opinions on the situation. My opinion for what its worth is that the end result will be determined by the players in the leadership group. Its not the first time Fev has found himself in hot water. But this is the first time he has done so and 'allegedly' pissed off some of the players in the process. If Judd, Murph and Gibbs (who were all present on the night) feel strong enough to suggest to the club that they no longer want Fev at CFC then I think their words will speak volumes here. If its simply a matter of the boys having a chat and all is forgiven then he'll stay.
There's reports that Judd is not at all impressed and possibly Gibbs and Murph also. If the players no longer want him (which I hope is not the case) then I think we may have seen the last of Fev. We may be able to put up with his antics and the stabs from opposition fans and critics, but this time around if the players themselves stand up and say we've had enough of him, then I think it may be game over...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:35 am 
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It just needs to be done with so we can all move on. Hopefully that will happen today.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:39 am 
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Ideally I think you should move him on - your "Judd" window extends out 5-6 years, beyond when Fev will be around so you have time to replace him and a history of getting your man - Stevens, Judd, Warnock etc. But I think pragmatism will rule - it will come down to whether there's a market for him. You need to get a fair price and there wont be too many suitors. IMO Collingwood is probably the team that could benefit most but I just can't see that deal happening.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:40 am 
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There are no suitors.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:40 am 
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The Duke wrote:
Can you believe we've been going on with this crap for as long as this?

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5206&start=320


Yea well people keep posting the same stuff.

This thread is like ground hog day.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:46 am 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
There are no suitors.


Do you know that the club has exhausted every possible option?

If this is the case, the club need to tell him he won't be offered anothewr contract. He needs to come back and play and behave accordingly - any cock-up on or off the field will result in a 5 match ban.

That being said, I think the relationship between he and Judd may well be beyond repair. If that's true, he's better off out of the club.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:50 am 
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Thing on Fev's side is that he still has 2 yrs left on a contract, big back-ended contract, no clauses, and either way it will cost us a fortune to get rid of him. And it will still cost a fortune to pay much of his salary at another club. As well it included in the salary cap. That makes it bloody hard to get rid of him.

IMHO only I think the club may suspend him from the first few games and he'll have to train at the Bullants for a while. The club will force him in to alcohol rehab as well. Lots of sorrys too to lots of people. Not much more they can do. Big contracts a big contract and legally binding. His manager will make sure of that.

That's what I think anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:53 am 
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The fact that Fev gets a chance to explain himself shows that he is staying more so, then going.

If the club already made their decision, he would of been told by now that he is either getting sacked/traded. You don't get a guy to rock up and face a room full of directors to hear that he is being sacked.

If anything this will be a meeting of what Fev will do from now on/what he wants.
eg. Alcohol counselling, Trading, New contract clause, no drinking for rest of his career etc.

The club can't sack him and they can't trade him unless approved by Fev. They sack him and they lose 550k x 2 years (i think) and they can't trade him unless he agrees to a deal.

So everyone here can have their trade wishes on TC, but Fev chooses his direction, not the club/members.

From Fev's article the other day, this is his first official wake up call. He probably won't be on the footy show anymore, NFL clubs won't be interested in a known trouble maker and his days as a AFL player are numbered. If that isn't a big enough wake up call, l dont know what is.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:55 am 
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The Duke wrote:
Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
There are no suitors.


Do you know that the club has exhausted every possible option?

If this is the case, the club need to tell him he won't be offered anothewr contract. He needs to come back and play and behave accordingly - any cock-up on or off the field will result in a 5 match ban.

That being said, I think the relationship between he and Judd may well be beyond repair. If that's true, he's better off out of the club.
Big difference to being p1ssed off completely and being beyond repair. You get over those things after a while. He be contrite for a while and if he ever does want another contract he'd better be a good boy, although he'll be 30-31 by then. He'd have 2 years to get his act together. Who knows by then we could look in a different direction anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:55 am 
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We could sack him now and have him enter the PSD get selected by Melbourne, and all we'd have to do is collect the tab for the money outstanding. He'd have to agree to put a price on his head that was fair and reasonable (he'd be a prick if he didn't) and we could at least save something on his wage for the TPP.

We could then use that money to lure someone like Lake.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:58 am 
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The Duke wrote:
Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
There are no suitors.


Do you know that the club has exhausted every possible option?


The Club? No. His management? Yes.

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If this is the case, the club need to tell him he won't be offered another contract. He needs to come back and play and behave accordingly - any cock-up on or off the field will result in a 5 match ban.


He was never going to be offered another contract...this was going to be his last anyway. He will come back and play...the only sticking point here is what 'sanctions' the club can put on him...it needs AFL + AFLPA approval and I don't think they'll give it.

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That being said, I think the relationship between he and Judd may well be beyond repair. If that's true, he's better off out of the club.


Haven't heard anything other than Judd's belief his mate needs to grow up and stay off the grog...Judd in favour of 'sanctions' as are the others. These sanctions include regular breath testing and no paid nights out. Aside from that - I understand they're still mates.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:58 am 
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The Duke wrote:
Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
There are no suitors.


Do you know that the club has exhausted every possible option?

If this is the case, the club need to tell him he won't be offered anothewr contract. He needs to come back and play and behave accordingly - any cock-up on or off the field will result in a 5 match ban.

That being said, I think the relationship between he and Judd may well be beyond repair. If that's true, he's better off out of the club.


Judd Judd Judd, Any time Fev is drinking, Judd is along side him drinking.

Judd has to act pissed over this event as captain of the club. He can't come out and say yeah Fevs behaviour wasn't that bad. He has to come out and say its not good enough. Otherwise he loses credibility as a captain and Fev doesn't take it as serious.

One thing about Judd is that he is a winner, he won't want to lose Fev and lose a chance of finals glory.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:59 am 
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Goltzenberg wrote:
The fact that Fev gets a chance to explain himself shows that he is staying more so, then going.

If the club already made their decision, he would of been told by now that he is either getting sacked/traded. You don't get a guy to rock up and face a room full of directors to hear that he is being sacked.

If anything this will be a meeting of what Fev will do from now on/what he wants.
eg. Alcohol counselling, Trading, New contract clause, no drinking for rest of his career etc.

The club can't sack him and they can't trade him unless approved by Fev. They sack him and they lose 550k x 2 years (i think) and they can't trade him unless he agrees to a deal.

So everyone here can have their trade wishes on TC, but Fev chooses his direction, not the club/members.

From Fev's article the other day, this is his first official wake up call. He probably won't be on the footy show anymore, NFL clubs won't be interested in a known trouble maker and his days as a AFL player are numbered. If that isn't a big enough wake up call, l dont know what is.


He'd be one of the rare birds that actually saw themselves in such a state. That can him home, especially on national TV. Embarrassing to anyone and he certainly was given he pulled out of all his parades. The rest of us get p1ssed and told how obnoxious we are as we usually can't remember.....lol!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:03 pm 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
There are no suitors.


I believe the decision the club needs to make today should be limited to whether we want him at the club? What we get for him should not be a consideration.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:07 pm 
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I would have thought that Fevola was in breach of his contract by bringing the club and the game into disrepute with his actions.

When the club was (rightly) criticized for dropping the specific behaviour clauses from his current contract, I seem to recall that part of the justification was that the standard player contract provides adequate protection in regard to unacceptable behaviours.

I reckon if we chose to, we could tear up his contract.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:09 pm 
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jim wrote:
Goltzenberg wrote:
The fact that Fev gets a chance to explain himself shows that he is staying more so, then going.

If the club already made their decision, he would of been told by now that he is either getting sacked/traded. You don't get a guy to rock up and face a room full of directors to hear that he is being sacked.

If anything this will be a meeting of what Fev will do from now on/what he wants.
eg. Alcohol counselling, Trading, New contract clause, no drinking for rest of his career etc.

The club can't sack him and they can't trade him unless approved by Fev. They sack him and they lose 550k x 2 years (i think) and they can't trade him unless he agrees to a deal.

So everyone here can have their trade wishes on TC, but Fev chooses his direction, not the club/members.

From Fev's article the other day, this is his first official wake up call. He probably won't be on the footy show anymore, NFL clubs won't be interested in a known trouble maker and his days as a AFL player are numbered. If that isn't a big enough wake up call, l dont know what is.


He'd be one of the rare birds that actually saw themselves in such a state. That can him home, especially on national TV. Embarrassing to anyone and he certainly was given he pulled out of all his parades. The rest of us get p1ssed and told how obnoxious we are as we usually can't remember.....lol!


Yeah l love those what did l do last nite thoughts the next day lol.

I'm thinking Fev could start his own Big Brother show or Newly weds type show. Just have a camera follow him everywhere to make sure he doesnt drink again, a lot of people would watch it. Sticks could be like the big bro type dude on the mic, "Brendan, to the dining room please'.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:10 pm 
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old55 wrote:
Ideally I think you should move him on - your "Judd" window extends out 5-6 years, beyond when Fev will be around so you have time to replace him and a history of getting your man - Stevens, Judd, Warnock etc. But I think pragmatism will rule - it will come down to whether there's a market for him. You need to get a fair price and there wont be too many suitors. IMO Collingwood is probably the team that could benefit most but I just can't see that deal happening.



I worry we are damaging our "Judd" window, by artificially inflating our probabilities of a "Fev" window.


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