NBH that might not be possible if it involves other people who don't want anything to come out.

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That's true. I think we put him out for 2 games after the Freo debacle. That was under Pagan - maybe Ratts should've put him on the bench every time he cracked the sads on field, and suspended him for 3 games after the peeing incident. I always thought he needed a games ban for that effort the week before the start of the season.

We're now at another fork in the road. One path is without Fev and a fresh start - the other is more of the same with Fev holding the club to ransom.

Surely we now have to move on from him, he's costing us a staggering amount of money. I'd be offering to pay $200K of his wages for 2 years and ROK in return.

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He needs to take a year off like Ben Cousins did. It did wonders for young Ben. Rejuvinated him in fact.

Who's the senior player that he seriously offended?

Is the girl that he apparently sexually abused Gibbsy's girlfriend? It was reported that she left the night early in tears.

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If the club decided to trade i think that would be a good trade. However his pay would be backloaded for vet list so it will be complicated.

Could Roos persuade Fevola and his wife that a move to Sydney would be a good thing? They would have to give up pick 6 though and Jesse White.

Only thing is, Fevola has kicked just 4 goals in three games at the SCG. The short ground doesn't really suit his style.

St Kilda probably can't afford him.

Like Molly said, there is always Richmond.

Heaps I would suspect.

One thing I don't get is the need for any player to drink at offical functions. Period. As a person in a leadership position both at work and my sport, I do not drink at all at offical functions and haven't done in many years. My rationale is simple. I need to, as a professional, to set an example at all times, because if I misbehave then I can not disicipline those I am rsponsible for if they misbehave.

If the club decides to sack Fev ( highly unlikely) then I would support the club in its decision.

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L.M 35-06

Here we have a 29yr old married man, whose his wife is expecting their 3 child, who gets paid more than the Countries Prime Minister, who had his umptenth brain fade in one of the biggest Public forums in Australia, that is watched by millions on prime time TV and you think it's the Clubs fault because they never tarred and feathered him last time around.

Regards Cazzesman

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My sources tell me the harrasment is rubbish. It was offer to a girl who happened to work for the newspaper that is responsible for a large part of this story.

Maybe he did more to others but i am told this is what the newspaper went with.

It's a great opportunity to move to a multi-pronged forward line and away from a one-dimensional structure that has limitations.
Also a great opportunity for the antiJudd to take a reality check and restart his life at another club while still doing the thing he loves - playing football.
Some say it's the grog but others say the grog releases the real person. The body language on Brownlow night was not good.
Many talented problem players have blossomed at a new club.
A champion team beats a team of champions any day.

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A Fev move to Sydney will have nothing to do with winning a flag. Their mindset will be to draw people through the turnstiles, so getting pick 6 and Jesse White will make them laugh.

Those two are their future and the only way to climb back within striking range when the West Sydney team is up and running.

Fev has given up his chance of playing in a premiership (if we have the balls to trade him) he's had ample chances to change his ways, now he and his wife (if she's still around) will have to think about their future, which means repairing the damage already done.

For that reason I'd say they will either decide to move away, or Fev will go by himself (fingers crossed). In return we need to ask Sydney for Ryan O'Keefe who also will play no part in Sydney's next top 4 push - so there's no point keeping him on the list. He doesn't draw a crowd although he is a great footballer.

This put Sydney in the best bargaining position. If I were them I'd say 'you pay Fev's salary, we'll pay ROK's and you've got a deal.

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C'mon, C'man please don't tell me we've gone hard on BF. He's gotten away with far too much for far too long. Ratten has been stroking this bloke since he took over and it's had me boiling.

If the club couldn't see this coming they were plain dumb. I, and many others on TC have been posting about this moment for years.

So please, don't give ME the .

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The man that holds the key to fevs future right now isnt or shouldnt be stickss... it will be swann...

unless somethings changed... fev is a goner...

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The way I see it is essentially Fev has put himself in a position where it is either him or Judd and Swann - narcissism or professionalism.

On the understanding that Pratt was instrumental in bringing the latter two to the club the call has to be made whether or not the club wants to risk the Pratt legacy.

I don't see it as an issue of how many goals Fev kicks, rather I see it as how many goals the club kicks. In reality, Swann is the club goalkicker.

IMO

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Does anyone have an idea what time the meeting is on today?

You and I are hearing differently Synners...Swann holds one key...Mark Kleiman (Fev's Manager) holds another key - as does Matt Finnis (AFLPA CEO) who is against agreeing to additional requirements relating to Brendan's off-field behaviour being included into his current contract.

There isn't another club actively interested in Brendan's services. He stays...but I don't think we find that out today...this is going to be a bit more drawn out than Brendan will have hoped for.

Would the antiJudd respond to restrictins placed on him by sulking?
Could that lead to him playing out his contract at something less than 100% commitment?

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Dunno. Hope not.

take it for what its worth, but rumor file on 3AW today said that a certain player involved in problems at Brownlow night had a sit down discussion and apology face to face to a female reporter.

Fevs attendance at the Brownlow was no different to say us attending a Christmas work function. You are still under work discrimination etc policies. Under those terms, Fevs actions were poor to say the least and would warrant any of us a severe reprimand if not dismissal. the stuff about his private life is irrelevant under those terms.

I'd hate to see him go but just look at the team that raised the cup on Saturday. They set out on a path, took a hard line on individuals, set a standard that there is no "I" in Team (Harley as captian is a case in point) and have 35 blokes who would do anythig possible for the team.

This continued display of disprespect to the club and to the other players simply must end if we are to progress.

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Who did Geelong sack to attain success?
They may play for each other but i'm not sure they are all model citizens.