Yup. You come onto TC to "learn" everything bad about Carlton. It'd be nice if some of the more positive posters were willing to "teach" ignorant supporters such as myself but it would appear they don't take themselves as seriously, which is probably why they are positive.

You do have to give a shit about what Fev did...

and how do you know he didnt break the law... there are whispers of alleged sexual harrasment..

and you dont need to break the law to have a negative influence.

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Flowering nailed it it one!

Some Carlton people (fans and presidents) haven't learned much from the last decade. Things like humility and willingness to model after the best.

"We're Carlton F... The Rest" - sums it up for me.

Cats had played in 2 prelims in 04 and 05, then had "the recession they had to have". We're a fair way from that.

How is a fan's humility going to influence Carlton's on field performance, and even more incredibly how is a fan going to model Carlton on Geelong? ESP? Emails? Taking training? Sitting in the coaches box on match day?

Excessive naval gazing is unhealthy.

We will be where Geelong is some time before they got to where they now are.

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yep...I agree about the arrogance in that slogan.
Humility and willingness to learn are also great qualities.
What about empathy and compassion?
Can you honestly not remember all the amazing joy that Fev has given to so many on and off the field?
If the club sticks by Fev,and helps him re-habilitate,and become a way better person,and team player..then surely that would be something to be proud of?That would be a mark of a fully mature footy club.Not tossing him to the lions..err...not literally...cos he's an embarrassment,and doesn't fit the code.
He's a very ugly drunk...he might need a lot of chances...
I hope we don't give up on him.I truly beieve that Good Fev far outweighs Bad Fev.
I hate to think we would give up on him.(obviously)
So many want him to go though..or punish him.
As i've already said..I believe it's poor thinking to try and punish an illness/addiction..just misguided.

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as unhealthy as crystal ball gazing ?

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

Oooh....SNAP!

Lost me right there.....

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The Cats look like a bunch of fully grown men and have done for a few years . Our team look like a bunch of skinny kids. If our team develope together and mature together they have the ability to be like Geelong.

We are where Geelong and the Saints were in 2004 IMO.

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Interesting article in today's press about the 2001 draft. We only have Judd from that crop.

I think you're pretty spot on their hellas.

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It's not only Geelong we should look at.

I seriously hope our players, coaches, senior administrators & Board were watching the GF and last week's prelim b/w StK & the Bulldogs.
I was watching these matches trying to picture how we would go, in terms of demeanour & approach?

I am wondering how much work we need to still do on our commitment, drive, humility, team orientation and overall steel (blue steel?)
Looking at the top 3 teams from this year, they all seem so much more mature than we do - physically and mentally.
Why is this important? Because, whilst I have no doubt we are building towards a Premiership, this will determine whether it is one Premiership or 3; whether we will be a great team or do what we need to feel good for a moment in time.

Every Geelong person who spoke yesterday, showed great respect for the StKilda football club. I may be oversimplifying it but I get the feeling most (not all, but most) of our guys, in the same position, would not be thinking about their opposition. I think this perspective comes a bit with age & maturity and, probably a bit of bitter experience but it just struck me & I wondered if we need to have these traits to become a great team or perhaps we can do it differently, a bit more 'youthfully'; perhaps more along the lines of how Hawthorn did it? (Then again, it will be interesting to see whether the Hawks are back up there next year or whether they need some more 'bitter' experience to revisit the heights of 2008).

ANYWAY... interested in others thoughts on whether we have, or need (Blue) Steel - and is this related to the leadership traits discussed on this thread?

Last night Ross Lyon basically said that if there was anyone at the club who wasn't willing to work harder for next year and totally commit themselves, that they were welcome to let him know and they'd be on their way elsewhere. The thing is, you actually believe it coming from him, don't know if Ratts' voice carries the same weight.

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I find Lyon's voice to be a tad dopey.

Ratten sounds like a geek when he talks.

Ross Lyon has the personality of a welcome mat

Ross Lyon will never be a Saints premiership coach.
Geelong wont win another flag for some time.
Carlton's ascendancy is soon after a major terrorist incident
which sparks a new war

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Source?

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