I wont be watching TFS, crap TV.

First they were that disgusted and his piece was not to see the light of day, now that it has got so much publicity, they are going to show the vision of his street talk. This has been Ch9 PR work from the start to boost the ratings of a very average TV show

Brendan you do not need TFS or the grog. If it was your last horaah before number 3, well you made it a big one.

Channel 7 had vision last night when they did their Brownlow view.

So can anyone tell me what happened to the following people?

- Team Leader who gave Fev the microphone in the first place from Channel 9?
- Senior Officials from the AFL at the after party who allowed for Fevola to remain so long?
- Crown staff who allowed Fevola to stay so long?
- Warner and Johnston making allegations behind the name 'Herald Sun' about Fev "molesting women" and "sexually harassed a young women".

All good to point fingers and say the guy has a problem with alchohol, but what did anyone do to help? All I here is blame, blame, blame, blame ........

Typical fat heads are all out in force to take pot shots, yet still not one person to put there hand up and say I'm going to help. It's obvious Fev can't help himself.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/st ... 60,00.html

I watched a doco the other day about Peter Cook who basically took comedy to new levels of lowness with stories about getting the horn from looking at a dead pope etc etc etc

Cook was saying what was in his head.Many people would have the same thoughts (comedians included) but you cant say that.

Well I still listen to that pope sketch and laugh my head off .Its funny. Cook was a genious.


How is that related to BF.
Well as most of us know, Alcohol can cause ones self to lose their inhibitions. They actually act what they think
More so when its BF
Yep totally irresponsible
Hopefully he will finally learn.
Yep its bad for the club
A bad example for the youngsters.
He has copped a fine. His Tv career has possibly ended.


But it aint the end of the world
In the biggest footy week of the year it isnt front page news
It proves 2 things.
He has a problem he hopefully will address
and that society is full of hypocritical cauliflower.


I really like Fev. What you see is what you get. Unlike the head of the AFL and Adrian Anderson types.

Hopefully a lot of good will come from this not just for Brendan but for Murphy, Gibbs etc

And the media are cauliflower.

I'm still not sure why everyone's so keen to either defend him to the death or crucify him.

There's no doubt Brendan's a dumb flower but as has been pointed out earlier by others what he's done is so less important in the scheme of things than Judd's actions in our last game and the stupidity of the club in making those actions 50% more painful than they needed to be.

Of course I'd prefer it if Brendan hadn't done what he's done but for me the only real issues to come out of this are issues for Brendan rather than the club (although hopefully they'll help him if he wants it) or any of us.

And to those who cry about the sullying of our club's reputation...

God you would have hated our glory years...

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Well put Mr GWS.

He's certainly made a fool of himself and managed to give the papers and TFS a massive amount of fodder - but hypocrisy doesn't come in any greater form than a TV station wanting ratings.


He should be counseled for his choice of song.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

This has been all covered before. Everybody knows Fev and what and who he is. He cannot take responsibility for his behaviour, the club knows that and should have taken appropriate action to prevent this. It is like dealing with an immature adolescent, being proactive, setting the boundaries and follow though.

There are no winners here.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

Exactly.....


And all fev did was relax and unwind, albeit stupidly and in a way that publically humiliated himself - but no one else.

All lubricated by beer. he said a few things he shouldnt have but wasnt aggressive or violent.

The media go around, set him up by putting a dildo in his hand when he is drunk on mad monday, then sensing more tabloid mileage they beat the brownlow incident up for all its worth a week later.

At least he is honest in saying that he is just a big kid - naive and harmless yet vulnerable to the media parasites all aound him.

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My Blue Heaven

Exactly what I thought when I read that quote.

They've basically sacked him for his behaviour and now they (and every other media outlet running with the story) are promoting it and will show it on TFS to boost ratings.

Morons.

I've stayed a fan of TFS but I wont be watching tonight.

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The only thing I don't get about the fev, is why he just doesn't give up the drink. It does him no favours whatsoever, and you'd think by now he'd see the connection between alcohol and his numerous slip-ups.

I've known Guys like fev. Took ghem until their mid-thirties to wise up. Fev eventually will, but probably not during his playing career.

I laugh very very hard when I hear that the club's reputation is being "trashed" again.

Sure, his behaviour was anti-social, dysfunctional and the guy is an immature mega tool, without question.

But, FFS, are we the only club with players like this??? Didak, Stevie J, Lovett, Tarrant, Brogan, McVeigh, Barry Hall, Milne rah rah rah. We all know "them".

In relative terms we are no worse than any other club, bottom line. Doesn't justify his behaviour, of course.

THE FACT THAT HE PLAYS FOR THE BIG BAD BLUES gives this the angle the media yearn for.

I worry about it from a playing/leadership perspective absolutely, but I'm over the "trashing the brand" shite.

and how long ago was that?

Its a completely different era - salary caps, sponsorships etc.

With some clubs turning over in excess of $40million annually, it is a business and the image/professionalism that the club portrays is significantly more important than it was in our 'glory' years

I saw the vision on youtube where the young blokes attempt to interview Fev. You can see him with the Ch 9 crew, and Fev with a crownie. The Ch 9 bloke then holds the beer for Fev as he grabs the mike. No douobt they were also ensuring a steady flow.

I don't condone Fevs actions but fully agree its damn hypocritical of Ch 9 to essentially create the monster (a drunk interviewer) then when the monster gets out of control, deny any responsibility.

On the Ch 7 vision last night, you clearly see Juddy grab Fev and have a word. Unfortunately for Brendan, he is unable to take on good advice.

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I had to take yesterday off work. I was so stressed and knew I wouldn't be able to handle the teasing. I am so pissed off with Fevola for doing that to me.

It’s weird you know. Over the last 5+ years I’ve copped so much from so many over many Carlton incidents, beltings, etc, but when Fev plays up, or is deemed to play up, it seems that the average guy in the street really doesn’t care. Most laugh at it, maybe shake their head. Most can’t understand what all the fuss is about. Most aren’t that shocked that a footy player was pissed at the Brownlow. And most wonder if we really need to hear about it. I guess that’s the trouble with Fev – he gets away with it continually, most take him for the larrikin he probably thinks he is, and most adore him just as much afterwards. Like I said in an earlier post, not unlike Shane Warne.

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its a reflection of society that its quite acceptable to get pissed and lose control in public. Provided no one is hurt, then its all harmless fun and there is no need to be accountable.

Its that prevailing view that has contributed to the increase in drunkeness+violence within the CBD over the past few years.

My wife is involved in the media industry and saw the footage and heard the gossip. She and most of her collegues thought that his behaviour seemed 'normal' and looked at me and said ' you have that much fun [as fev did] when you're excited'. The other thing she said is that 'it's a party, a celebration, so why not?'

I too look at his antics and know I get excited and know how to have a good time, but I'm not the Face of a Club, nor am I representing any institution when I go out and party. So I get away with it. Fev just has to realise that he is in the spotlight and I think he does. He can't help himself, so imo he should control his drinking consumption. Easier said than done.

Alcohol is an acceptable drug in our society hence why he isn't being chatised like Cousins (who was never caught). It's not Fevola's responsibility to determine the standards our society accepts, that's up to society. There's no law against him vomitting, jumping on stage, mucking around with his pelvis and swearing in a private function.

I don't like what he does when he gets caught by the media, but who am I to judge him?

Right or wrong, I wish I could have been partying as hard as he was at the Brownlow; probably would have joined him. My bad. Whose bad?

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

To those people complaining about the media and them blowing it up. Ask the players if they are happy with their massive salaries and the lifestyles they now have.

Their salaries are paid for by the media. This isn't the 70's where footy was largely an amateur game. It is big media drvien dollars that enables Fev to be a millionaire. This type of money is not "free" and has responsibilties. Fev is happy to go the TFS and be in the media, so he is aware of the spotlight that is on him and the club when he does this. He needs to act accordingly.

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Have I run too far to get home?

This was always going to happen. I hate to say I told you so, but..... .

The club is now stuffed with this issue. Fev's worth bugger all on the market and less at the club. Most people here will try to blow it off as being a big deal over nothing, but the facts suggest now that the entire country is disgusted, including politicians to sporting heads and social commontators.

Rightly or wrongly the heat is on.

We've backed ourselves into a position where we've got nowhere to go. We now have to deal with this bozo.

I'd suggest we say to Fev that we will be trading him this year. If he refuses and says he wants to play out his contract at Carlton, we simply tell him that this contract will be his last. As of 2011 he will not be offered another contract at the CFC and he can then take his chances in the 2011 PSD, or the best offer at that time for a 30 year old narcissist.

Any sign of dissent shown on or off the field will come with a 4 game ban(hopefully that will affect his match payments).

I'd still be holding out hope of a Sydney trade at this draft although we won't get much back after this episode.

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What would be the outcome if Cloke, Eddie or one of the lesser players had acted this way? I'd suggest they'd be looking for a new club.
It's up to Carltons hierarchy what standards they set but when you have multiple standards, that's when problems arise. You cant tell Robinson, Yarran and co. to act accordingly and then accept the behaviour of this buffoon.
It's funny how he always seems to diminish his own brand when it's leading up to trade period. Perhaps he's not as stupid as we think.

Personally, I'd take what we can get and cut our losses. He's a timebomb and it's not a matter of if he'll embarrass the club again, it's a matter of when.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.