I wasn't actually passing judgement on Neil Craig as such. I was pointing out that the modern game is about utility type players now more than specialists (exceptions are the mids)...and Adelaide seem to have grasped this.

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gee the Neil Craig can coach

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GET MALTHOUSE !!

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Ratts and Neil Craig will both have 30 reasons to .

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If you dont play positive football.
If you dont control the game between the arcs you dont win.

The talls are becoming less and less significant.

You need a midfield that is commited to running both ways,
You need coherent ball movement..

Thats the future.

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I like the guy as a coach but there are some worrying patterns appearing for him.

Some of his coaching moves tonight were amature hour. Well probably not but i just wanted to throw that expression around.
He did make some moves that looked puzzling but they were pretty much the same ones he made in first quarter against us.
When they dont have momentum he puts his 60 goal forward in the back pocket along with a few others.

I dont think Craig would have stopped the lions last week in the last.

But what is it with coaches and this dream that if you can play defensive footy youll win.

You have to play positive but defensive footy throughout the field.

Craig is a great coach.. as proven with his development of kids.. and his structures... but sometimes for some inexplicable reason coaches play to not lose.. rather than play to win...

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The Adeliade model does cut it... they didnt use their model for the majority of the game and paid the ultimate price.
Its when they resorted to playing a defensive gamestructure that they lost...
Collingwood were always going to fight back.. but the Crows should have stayed with what they had been doing and not changed things.
They did.. and theyre dead!!!

Gotta hold your nerve ... when the opposition starts a run...

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game should have been over by the half way mark of the second quarter

someone needs to tell these well drilled Adelaide players that on throw ins near the opposition goal to protect the area behind the ruckmen ... and while I am at someone needs to tell the Adelaide forwards to run towards the kicker flying through the middle of the ground ... seriously how many marks of the year does Burton expect to take.

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Well I was passing judgement on Neil Craig and his organisation and at the same time telling you that Adelaide has grasped Jack Shizen against the top teams in the comp. Adelaide look great in theory but unfortunately when it counts they crumble in practice.
If Ratten had Neil Craig's record in finals he would be executed.

yep Craig's gameplanssssssss (so many gameplanssssssss) just doesn't seem to be able to get them across the line in finals. Craig and his gameplansssssss= Smeagol and the Ring

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If that is what happened then I can only draw the conclusion that the Adelaide players don't believe in the game plan. Someone is not getting the message through.

..can't say i agree with that.. ..sure, a couple of tallish, athletic utility types provide versatility, but there's alot to be said for genuinely understanding how to play a position, versus relying more on athleticism.. ..even in the modern, uncontested keepins off running game, genuine 'spine' players are still the key.. ..and then, having v.good specialist type F/B pockets are gold too.. ..i reckon a few utes running about are needed, but seem to come more into focus when things go awry [match-ups, injuries, suspensions]..

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I wouldn't be comparing Ratts with Craig just yet...Ratts's finals record is zero from one. Might be wise to wait a little longer b4 we make silly comparisons.

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why, no one is giving Ratts any time - say like 5 years to win umm how many finals has Craig won exactly?

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The club is giving Ratts time...

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not talking to the club on this forum now am I

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Oh you want me to give him time....yeah sure he can take all the time in the world....

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Cazz,

Sport is won by winning the key moments. The essence of the "Ratten" problem is that on most occassions he does not react quick enough so that Carlton can win the key moments. Like an average chess player he is only reacts to the immediate circumstance of the game, a champion chess player is two moves ahead. Infact a lot of times it appears Ratten doesn't make a move at all. I don't have enough tactical insight into the game but what did we do to counter rich in the last 15 minutes? why were key midfielders on the bench? etc. etc.

You can't compare them because Craig has five 30 year olds running around for him.