Who is he?
Is he the best in the AFL?

We have to always be looking for the best in the AFL...

Especially when it comes to the kids..

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I can answer that! Teague and Lappin are tools and we'd be better served if they left over summer...despite what the 'boys' think of them - there are better development coaches out there. Harris is doing a good job - but needs PROPER assistance.

Its a very subjective question though Beano. At least we ill have the infrastructure to support whatever coaching structure is setup. Its something that will help no end.

Hopefully the players recognise that if the club gives you the best facilities possible to better yourself most improvement will come from within themselves. Then its up to whomever to teach them the finer points of the game.

Apparently the development will be ready by start of preseason, or thereabouts. After Saturday, and the new facilities, i'll be pi$$ed not to hear some serious improvements in players PB's across the board.

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Harris is formerly from West Coast Eagles, and I understand his credentials are very good.

But Wet Toast is the richest club in the AFL, so his resources [quality of staff etc] there would be very different to ours.

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i know where he came.. but did he head up their development dept?
Did the eagles fight tooth and nail to keep him??
Did they say whatever Carlton is oppering you we will double... youre so good we cant afford to lose you..

What actual role did he have at WC... exactly?

The word credentials and nothing tied with it means nothing...

Im just interested...

I know Icke came from Freo.. and he headed up their footy dept.. and was very good with contracts.., (likr that should be a problem at Freo..."

"Yes?"... you want more next year?????",.... "get the @#$%&! out of here !!!"

"Next!".........................

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The Yarran vs Rich debate will be settled in a couple of years time. The Hughes debate likewise. I actually think that he has done OK. There will always be hits & misses in recruiting and a few people on this site seem to be fixated on the misses. If you leave out the no brainers (Kruezer, Gibbs, Murphy) Hughes has brought in Bower, Jaimeson, AJ, Hampson, Yarran, Gartlett, Robinson - all of whom are good players or are on the way to becoming good players.
The recruitment of Johnson & Bentley cannot be blamed entirely on Hughes as they were known quantities prior to drafting and the coach has plenty of information with which to exercise his veto, presuming that he has one. I saw lots of Bentley at Sturt & could have told you that he was a dud. He wasn't even in the top three midfielders at Sturt, yet we picked him ahead of Luke Crane who can really play. Likewise James Allan at North Adelaide. Two Magarey medalists.

Asp it will be interesting if clubs will look at players from other comps as the TAC/under 18 comps have been corrupted with the "no 17 yr olds eligible " rule this year.

Can we have a thread about more mature footballers from the WAFL/NT/SANFL???

Would be interesting less focus on them by the amateur talent eyes like me..

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I don't like Bentley as a player, but I can see that he was brought in to play a role, like Hadley the year before. We're short on 6'3 defensive midfielders, Walks, Banno and Hadley are what we're working with and all have struggled to get on the park. Luke Crane is a 5' nothing rover, he just doesn't fit our needs.

Dorotich stuck it out in Melbourne.....

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So in summary it seems like most are generally happy with Hughes, with the exception who rate Rich and blame Hughes for letting him slip.

Fair enough, I don't know very much about recruiting or development at all, so it's interesting to hear opinions.

I agree that Harris needs more of a chance - once we have great facilities up and running, then let's see what he can do.

As for Teague, I am happy to keep him, as I think he and Harvey offer some character for the younger players.


Lappin must go if Swann and Sticks have any spine.
Also, while I don't think he has done a bad job, I would prefer to move Montgomery on and replace him with SOS if possible.
I think Riley is ok, but I think we lack a Gun assistant coach for general play/midfield who has some tactical skills. Not sure if Laidley fits the bill or not.

As for Hughes, I think he is ok for another year. Obviously this year will be a massive test for our recruiting department with the GC coming.
And please, no more small forwards in the first round this year

It's perfectly acceptable/understandable for a young player not to have an impact at senior level in his first few seasons.
However, it is always highly disturbing when an early draft pick plays poorly at VFL level. For much of this season Yarran has played poorly for the Northern Bullants and it's had nothing to do with his level of fitness.

One of the essential ingredients of a good footballer is having the courage to go hard at the footy while keeping your eyes on the ball. If you are deficient in this part of the game you will never be of any use in a serious, hard game of footy.

Having watched Yarran closely on a number of occasions this season, the one thing that stands out about him is that he's, well, seriously frightened. So no matter how fit he gets or how well he settles into life in Melbourne, what he offers the team will always be very limited. He has such a strong dislike for putting his head over the footy that you couldn't possibly ever play him as a frontline midfielder. He does take a good mark every now and again but he often pulls out of aerial contests or takes his eyes off the ball, which pretty well rules him out of the backline. He has the pace to chase down opponents in the forward line and the skill and balance to kick some nice snaps and goals on the run, but when things get serious there are times when he will be a dreadful liability as he already is (at times) for the Northern Bullants. The ease with which the opposition wins the ball in his vicinity generates plenty of run and drive for the opposition. No it's not his fitness, it's his lack of a competitive FIRST EFFORT due to his instinctive lack of courage. Perhaps the club didn't notice something about Yarran that it should have.

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Sums up Braddles almost 400 games!!!

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Yarran is bigger than Murphy, so what makes him a small forward who can't play another position?

Why is recruiting a forward who isn't a KPP a dirty word in footy circles?

Who needs a potential matchwinner?



Yarran has more in common with Didak than Betts...

You have a great eye for talent...

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Sums up Braddles almost 400 games!!![/quote]

Braddles was a much more courageous player than he was given credit for. He used to get his share of hard kicks and he usually had a crack when it was his turn. Of course he wasn't the toughest, most physical player going around but he played a smart, calculating sort of game where he got his fair share of hard kicks while still ''looking after himself.''
Yarran, on the other hand, is seriously frightened.

Sums up Braddles almost 400 games!!![/quote]

Braddles was a much more courageous player than he was given credit for. He used to get his share of hard kicks and he usually had a crack when it was his turn. Of course he wasn't the toughest, most physical player going around but he played a smart, calculating sort of game where he got his fair share of hard kicks while still ''looking after himself.''
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ever notice braddles sprinting to a contested ball.. and compare that to bradles sprinting with the ball in his hands in open space?????

he mastered those 2 moves......

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There is something to be said about the courage required in making predictive statements because there's always a possibility that you may get it wrong and someone else will bring it up and remind you of that fact.



However, that has to be one of the all time howlers on this site. Thanks for the laughs both of you

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Yes, I do have a great eye for talent.

Bryce Gibbs is a very good footballer more suited to playing behind the ball or in front of the ball than as a frontline, ball winning midfielder. I read a few years ago that footy clubs read these forums so in the lead up to every draft I use a bit of hysterical hyperbole and inflammatory rhetoric to try to influence our recruiters and to give them something to think about.
In the lead up to the 2006 draft I was hoping that if we were going to draft a midfielder, it would be Joel Selwood.

Likewise in 2007 I wanted our recruiters to think long and hard before overlooking Trent Cotchin, especially as at the time Aisake O'hAilpin and Sam Jacobs were easily the best young AFL listed ruckmen in the VFL. I stand by my original assessment that Kreuzer will never be a full time specialist key forward.

On Saturday night you may have noticed that Carlton's first three goals were as a result of (as well as great play by the Blues] Mitchell Clark jumping out of the way at the centre bounces. In fact, the reason Port kicked 10 goals in a quarter at the Gabba a couple of weeks ago was also because Mitchell Clark kept jumping out of Brogan's way at the centre bounces. I rest my case. Well, that and also because Mitch Clark gives me the shits. I just don't like the bloke.

I was spot on about Sam Gilbert (except perhaps for the gratuitous and strangely irrelevant attack on Mitch Clark who I can't stand).

Not sure about Hurn over Murphy but Kouta agreed with me and he sounds like he also has a great eye for talent.
The shrill denunciation of Roughead and Franklin can be explained by my deep, pathological hatred for the Hawthorn Football Club which leads to an irrational lack of objectivity about their players.
However, one point I will definitely not back down from is that Livo would still get a game as a key backman at Hawthorn. Thomas Murphy is very much a poor man's Luke Livingston, and anyone who disagrees has a very poor eye for talent.

again... just goes to show if you have the right mix you dont need 6 tall defenders....

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Braddles was a much more courageous player than he was given credit for. He used to get his share of hard kicks and he usually had a crack when it was his turn. Of course he wasn't the toughest, most physical player going around but he played a smart, calculating sort of game where he got his fair share of hard kicks while still ''looking after himself.''
Yarran, on the other hand, is seriously frightened.[/quote]


ever notice braddles sprinting to a contested ball.. and compare that to bradles sprinting with the ball in his hands in open space?????

he mastered those 2 moves......[/quote]

Synbad why use Braddles (He is a Carlton Legend who deserves better from you) and his outside game to win an argument against a bloke who has made too many outlandish statements.

Surely this bloke had many other bits of 'Gold' that you could have focussed on to score points. Braddles was not renown for being an inside midfielder. But he was amazing at what he did. So professional and lived and breathed the navy blue.

Does not sit well with me.

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