After deciding to go to Brisbane last minute (and subsequently paying through the nose), last night was a standout for me.

01 against the Tiges was also disappointing when we lost Kouta with a knee. This following the injuries and incidents previously against the Catters in the final round

The 1994 final vs Geelong was a real low point for me. I remember the exact emotions I went through when that siren sounded... i sat there dumbfounded thinking - is this it? it this the way Carlton finishes the season? It took me ages to compute it - it felt like they had been robbed. We got bundled out in a semi-final, not even making a preliminary after winning 15 matches in the home and away. Geelong had all their stars out and they still won that match.



This defeat in 2009 is just as bad but more of a lingering pain. Firstly, I flew up for the match which was an expensive thing to do, and also in terms of realising that the cards are against Carlton winning grand finals.


The Rich factor was the heart breaker for me. Seeing Rich carve us up made me realise that recruiting is the A1 priority for the Blues. If Brisbane didn't have Rich they wouldn't have won that final. We had the opportunity to get Rich and we overlooked him.



Then I started thinking about injuries, the fact there are about to be MORE teams that Carlton have to beat to make the finals, selection issues, form, etc etc... it is definitely a long road to the top - and one that few teams get an opportunity to get to. Maybe it is an impossible dream expecting Carlton to get there within the next few years.

93 gf was really disappointing
86 gf was a horror we were flogged
semi in 80 against the tiges at waverly


Last night was sad but only because it had been so long

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

76 prelim to north by 1 point, top of the ladder we were

wone 1st 7, the lost 5 , then won 9 and drew in rnd 22

bang straight sets

My first game that one............

Syds last............................................................i cried...........!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

I'm sorry?!

Man-child had 12 touches. 5 in the second half... Yeah he kicked a nice goal, but to lament one's recruiting strategy because a highly rated kid on the other team was given a bath by our guys, but kicked a telling goal late (then tried again moments later and missed everything, mind) is astonishing.

He touched the ball 12 f%#cking times and you're saying he carved us up?! I'm almost angrier at your ignorance than the result... however, thinking of you so forlorn and lost in hyperbolic lament cheers me up a bit, owing to how simply astonishing it is.

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"In fairness it did seem in the early days of the draft teams would just pick a name totally at random out of a hat. I'm pretty sure we picked James Cook at #2 one year. The mediocre forward, not the explorer" - Me, 12/9/2011

Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

Were you at the game?


I don't care if he got 4 possessions, 15 possessions, 27 possessions or 5 possessions - he makes every one count. How many went to Brown on the chest? How many were telling possessions?


If you heard the crowd roar in the last quarter and the Carlton player's heads drop when he kicked that goal you would be able to speak with authority...instead, you were watching the game snuggled up in front of tv. So don't bang on about how crap he was cause he only got 1 possession or went three quarters on the bench or whatever.


While you were off to get your cup of twinings he was passing lace out to Brown and helped change the match. (Yes, yes... i know Black was doing it too...is that what you want to hear? me praising Black as well? )

So he only got 12 possessions or whatever for the match - give me one of his possessions to 15 of those backward 20 metre passes in defence possessions any day of the week.


Some players have the x-factor and he has it. If you want me to praise Black, Brown and Bradshaw as well as they were the "vote winners" well I ain't gonna do it.

ra - ra - i was at the game - i'm better than you - ra - ra

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Reckon this final has got to be the worst in that we were so far in front and folded...in a very short space of time.

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73 and 93

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

The tv camera only shows you a small part of the game - live it shows you other parts that the tv camera cannot capture. You are getting one camera angle - at the game you get more than one camera angle.

And also being there live increases the pain of the loss. At home you can't hear the joy of the opposition supporters right in your ear as they sing the club song, you can't hear their supporters revel in the victory.

Rich had about 4 of his 12 touches that did something. Well done to him. He'd be disappointed and underwhelmed with his performance in his first final, and so would any level headed football observers. Of course they'll all whip their cocks out at his goal and praise his "maturity" in such a time of crisis, but there is no doubt that he wasn't very good throughout the night.

What we've seen of Yarran, in glimpses admittedly, is exciting. It is the sort of player clubs clamor and want for. Yeah, he's a massive work in progress at the moment and will probably take a couple years to bare the sort of fruit expected of him, but when he does we'll sit back and marvel at HIS poise and HIS skills and HIS goal kicking and HIS ability to turn a game in a flash with HIS class.

Yarran's goal against the Swans, when he just put on the jets and ran away from his opponent is something the likes of which Daniel Rich will never be able to do. This little stocky, nuggety man is not going to get any bigger, he's not going to get any quicker and, although he will probably become more consistent, this is going to coincide with the departures of Black and Power and co who provide him with the cover and, in many ways, the on-field anonymity he is afforded.

Chris will get bigger and become more confident and assured; Rich is already there. I wait for the day Chris tears up the Lions and everyone sits back and says "That's why we got him" whilst everyone's favorite chunky man pie is battling it out in the clinches, tagged heavily.

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"In fairness it did seem in the early days of the draft teams would just pick a name totally at random out of a hat. I'm pretty sure we picked James Cook at #2 one year. The mediocre forward, not the explorer" - Me, 12/9/2011

Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

That was a wasted year (decade even ..... yes we won 3 but should have been more). We should have owned the 70's just like Hawthorn owned the 80's.

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Wish people would stop trying to justify the non-selection of Rich. FFS, he's a star, will only get better and is EXACTLY what our midfield needs. Stevo is no longer a midfielder. Think of what could have been : JUDD, MURPH, GIBBS, RICH

Yarran may end up being a handy half fwd. So what....................he ain't no Rich, and the odds are, he'll never be as much value to our team.

And last night's loss ranks for me as our worst final performance. Insipid last quarter. I'm expecting top 4 next year, but only if Waite overcomes the knee, and 206 lets Kreuz play up fwd more often. Cloke ?..............see ya later.

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"Rich had about 4 of his 12 touches that did something. Well done to him. He'd be disappointed and underwhelmed with his performance in his first final, and so would any level headed football observers. Of course they'll all whip their cocks out at his goal and praise his "maturity" in such a time of crisis, but there is no doubt that he wasn't very good throughout the night.

What we've seen of Yarran, in glimpses admittedly, is exciting. It is the sort of player clubs clamor and want for. Yeah, he's a massive work in progress at the moment and will probably take a couple years to bare the sort of fruit expected of him, but when he does we'll sit back and marvel at HIS poise and HIS skills and HIS goal kicking and HIS ability to turn a game in a flash with HIS class.

Yarran's goal against the Swans, when he just put on the jets and ran away from his opponent is something the likes of which Daniel Rich will never be able to do. This little stocky, nuggety man is not going to get any bigger, he's not going to get any quicker and, although he will probably become more consistent, this is going to coincide with the departures of Black and Power and co who provide him with the cover and, in many ways, the on-field anonymity he is afforded.

Chris will get bigger and become more confident and assured; Rich is already there. I wait for the day Chris tears up the Lions and everyone sits back and says "That's why we got him" whilst everyone's favorite chunky man pie is battling it out in the clinches, tagged heavily."[/quote]




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On what I have seen of Yarran so far I don't think he will be a dud, any player that can kick that many goals at WAFL level needs to be graded highly and some of his goals this year were beauties.


The one moment from Yarran I remember from this year was oddly nothing flashy but a long and accurate kick he did on the wing against Adelaide at Football Park. It impressed me. His accuracy, his smooth transition from hand to foot and how much distance he got was what i noticed.


However, I have to say that Rich is an outstanding kick because he kicks stab passes like few I have seen. It is his stab pass that just floors me. 40 metre stab passes cannot be undervalued.


I hope what you say above is right. I agree with your point about Black and once he retires I think they will have trouble filling his spot with anyone even half as effective in that role.

Ugh, reading some of those painful memories made me wince
and my hair go even curlier.
Three that probably affected me the most were...
1973 GF loss when those yellow and black pricks just bashed us for the fun of it
1976 prelim when we had them all covered that year, and just attacked
non stop for last 15 minutes but couldnt buy a goal, worst offender number 43.
1994 v Geelong, like other poster i was a stunned mullett after that game.

The walk back to the car was very sombre after all of these
Added to the fact that you know you have 6 months of pain
before you even get a chance to eradicate it next season.

Sometimes the karma wheel turns slowly, had to wait 9 years to get
Richmond back, sometimes it moves quickly as it was only 12 months
for redemption against the pussy cats and maybe 95 prelim was payback
for North too. So Brisbane's turn will come, pretty soon there will be no
Black, Bradshaw or Brown or better still our boys will go past them.

But for frigs sake i want those 22 that played (and the important ones
that didnt) to have an almighty guts ache all summer and the only
remedy isnt Mylanta but getting their pinkies on number 17 !

But hey, even now its gunna be a long 6 months !

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Totally agree, based on the players we had in the Seventies we should have had 5 premierships so many times in the mid-70s we underperformed in the finals.

While I was upset (very) on Saturday night, I was just as gutted by the Geelong loss in 94 but I will NEVER EVER feel as angry and murderous as I felt during and after the 73 Grand Final

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Carlton - Nothing's changed
I still love you, oh, I still love you
Only slightly, only slightly less
Than I used to, my love

99 Granny.

*shudder*

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

'93 Grand Final

A mate had his 21st birthday the same night, and as he was a mad Blues fan his folks had the place done up in Carlton colours. Was more like a wake than a 21st.

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Spot on mate. After the loss against Brisbane, it brought back memories of the loss to Nth Melbourne in the 1985 Elimination final. We had a 17 point lead at 3 quarter time against North which ended up being a 19 point loss in the end. This was a 36 point turn around in a quarter of footy. Against Brisbane we let a 29 point lead 1 minute into the last quarter end up being a 7 point loss. Again it was a 36 point turn around.

How I felt after the 1985 loss, I felt in 2009, Gutted, angry and disappointed.