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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:05 am 
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One more thing, do Ch 10 really think footy fans want to see that slimy !@#$%& maggot K Rudd? We don't !@#$%& care about him being at the footy!


Well put. To quote Family Guy, KRudd is a great Big Phony. To see that snake pretend to give a shit about AFL cheezily cheering Brisbane made me throw up in my mouth. His half time interview was execrable


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:11 am 
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Like I said in the match thread, they have run us to 1 goal in both games this year - we leak like a sieve and they finish like a freight train against us.

I am so pissed off losing to Brisbane whom I fraking hate, and now have to hear about how good Brisbane are for the rest of the week and year.

frak



Oh, and thank you Eddie, Jeff and Clokey for 'sleeping in' and sending us to Brisbane - thank you big time.


They wouldn't have made up 12 goals last week.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:18 am 
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Poor decision making and lack of composure e.g crap kicks to opposition players with none of our blokes within cooee. This allowed them to rebuild and move the ball into their forward line with ease. Same thing happened last time we played them. This is what cost us the game.....plus the decision not to take Daniel Rich ahead of Yarren.

I stand to be crucified however....the knobs that made this decision should be saked. I don't care how good Yarren is in two years time, it was a very poor choice!!!!!!!! :mad:

:donk: :banghead: :sly: :fight: :evil: :twisted: :screwy: :confused: :!: :?: :sad:


I'm confident that Yarran will be a good player for us as soon as next year. But if we had Rich we would have won more games, had a home final, and would probably be playing next week. Our midfield has let us down in the last few weeks.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:31 am 
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Poor decision making and lack of composure e.g crap kicks to opposition players with none of our blokes within cooee. This allowed them to rebuild and move the ball into their forward line with ease. Same thing happened last time we played them. This is what cost us the game.....plus the decision not to take Daniel Rich ahead of Yarren.

I stand to be crucified however....the knobs that made this decision should be saked. I don't care how good Yarren is in two years time, it was a very poor choice!!!!!!!! :mad:

:donk: :banghead: :sly: :fight: :evil: :twisted: :screwy: :confused: :!: :?: :sad:


I'm confident that Yarran will be a good player for us as soon as next year. But if we had Rich we would have won more games, had a home final, and would probably be playing next week. Our midfield has let us down in the last few weeks.



doubt it....

why would rich suddenly become as good as anyone on our list???

we dont know how to use anyone to their strengths... or get them playing at their best...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:32 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:04 am 
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I am not suprised we were beaten in the end.
Brisbane were always going to be dangerous if they got it into their forward 50.


The MC made the mistake of not playing Carlos. He has the size to match Brown or bradshaw. Shouldnt have played for Grigg whose form at VFL levelhasnt been great and who was useless last night. Very poor decision.

Still I reckon where we have finished is where we are that.

Bring on 2010


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:18 am 
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Hasn't it already been mentioned that Carlos is carrying a leg injury that troubled him last season?

Why play him if there is a question mark over him.

Not happy we lost obviously. But Finals is a very different ball game and our inexperience came out in the end. We are exactly where we are at and anyone expecting a Houdini like steal of number 17 are kidding themselves. The hunger for more has been already been planted into the boys.

Bring on 2010!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:20 am 
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It wasn't good, but you guys are all kidding yourselves if you thought we were going to win a flag this season. You just had to watch the Crows game to see that wasn't going to happen. So in the end, the pain of losing and going out was bound to happen in this finals series somewhere along the line. I actually think winning last night, and then b!tchslapping the Dogs next week like we usually do was going to mask a lot of the issues we have.

In my mind, the biggest issue is list structure. After the Hawthorn game we knew we had a weak bottom 6-8 on our list. If you look at last night's game, the only blokes in that 6-8 who had been weeded out from the Hawthorn match were Bentley and Setanta. And I include Setanta in that list out of kindness to the MC, as he was possibly missing because of injury rather than as a general assessment of where he is at. So basically, we are saying that the bottom 6 is holding us back after the Hawks game, and there is no change at all by season's end.

What the club needs going forward is development from Yarran, Austin, O'Keefe, Robinson, and Browne so that they can fill at least 5 of those bottom 6 positions on the team sheet every week. We made some inroads this year through the development of Joseph, Armfield, and Hammer, and we'll need more of that next year. We also need Grigg to get back to something like what he was last year.

In terms of trading, the last thing the club needs to do is to go after a big name player. We need every single draft pick we have available. We need to add to that list of Yarran etc with a further 4-5 young players who can slot into this list.

What we should be doing though is looking at our 2nd and 3rd tier and working out how we can do player for player swaps with players at other clubs who can fill structural holes on list. So we need to identify where we have a surplus of a particular type of player, pick the most tradeable, and swap for a type of player we don't have who is at a similar level at an opposition club. I think someone has identified an in and under midfielder, and I would think this is exactly the sort of player we should target in this kind of swap deal. We need to look at trades as win-win... we're not trying to stiff arm the opposition, we're trying to give them a player who will be serviceable for them and who is surplus to requirements for us, and we need to get a serviceable player in return.

I won't comment on coaching developments as I don't claim to know enough about the off-field situation and how it should be working. So my comments only relate to what needs to be done with cattle. The two go hand-in-hand though, and given the equitable playing field introduced by the AFL the battle for premierships is now a battle of ideas and nous, so we need to work out whether our efforts are being maximised in this area.

Oh... and to the guy who said we needed Rich rather than Yarran because he would have won us the game last night. Fair dinkum, I don't know where to start so I won't. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:22 am 
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One more thing, do Ch 10 really think footy fans want to see that slimy !@#$%& maggot K Rudd? We don't !@#$%& care about him being at the footy!


Well put. To quote Family Guy, KRudd is a great Big Phony. To see that snake pretend to give a shit about AFL cheezily cheering Brisbane made me throw up in my mouth. His half time interview was execrable






Exactly. I hate the cauliflower more than howard ant thats saying something.

What gets me with cauliflower like Rudd is that he carries on thinking the average Aussie doesnt know what he is really about.
Wonder if he complained when the blow dryer in the mens wasnt working or the prawn cocktail didnt meet his lofty catering standards.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:28 am 
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Didnt se Rudd playing in navy blue...

Stick to the topic...

If Ratten cant have us playing at a high standard and extract the most out of our players he fails.
If we dont have a pattern of play that is modern AFL football he fails.

He failed again on these two fronts.

And Cordy has failed this year also.Our players dont look conditioned as far as im concerned.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:30 am 
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You sound like a Bill Heffernan for PM and Wlson Tuckey for deputy type of guy Keogh. What made me angry was the way we squandered a game we had won, not that the TV cameras predictably focussed on the PM.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:30 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Didnt se Rudd playing in navy blue...

Stick to the topic...

If Ratten cant have us playing at a high standard and extract the most out of our players he fails.
If we dont have a pattern of play that is modern AFL football he fails.

He failed again on these two fronts.

And Cordy has failed this year also.Our players dont look conditioned as far as im concerned.





Yeah but Synners Rudds a cauliflower


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:32 am 
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WTF are you talking about?

I knew you were a little weird verbs, but this just takes the cake!

I think you'd better have a read of the posts from a few pages ago because you have me confused with someone else - "yibbida" maybe?



Maybe yibbida was saying our draw will be tough next year because we will be playing top 8 teams from this year.

Maybe you quoted me mentioning that North Sydney and Hawthorn were top eight teams from last year that didn't make the eight this year as some sort of twisted logic as to us being shit next year.

Whatever. If you want to make this about me being weird, good on you. Says a lot about you really.

If you reckon the Blues will be shit next year, just say it and spare the rest of us your "verbs is weird" rubbish.. We don't really care if your heartbroken about tonight and "hurting".

Through 2007's troubles and 2008's gains, 2009 has been a great year and if you or anyone else reckons 2010 will be hell, well good luck to you.

Sorry that's the way you feel. BAD LUCK!



Calm down big fella, I was just taking the piss FFS.....

I don't think we will be no good next year, on the contrary I think we are well and truly on the up :thumbsup:

All I was doing was pointing out the irony of the example you made that 3 teams from last year's 8 missed out on finals this year. The irony being that one of those teams could be us - no reason why it can't e.g. injuries at Hawthorn. Not for any reason other than to bring back some sanity after a shattering loss.

Onwards and upwards for 2010!! :smile:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:36 am 
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I am already over the pre-season.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:38 am 
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someone please tell me what Wiggins has done the past several rounds to warrant a place in our team?

coach selects a shit team once again. some things just never change :sad:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:42 am 
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someone please tell me what Wiggins has done the past several rounds to warrant a place in our team?

coach selects a shit team once again. some things just never change :sad:

Wiggins wasnt the problem
Grigg shouldnt have played.....
Garlett was too light and playing well against a tanking Melbourne didnt mean an automatic inclusion in a final over Yarran who did ok against a much more physically and finals like Adelaide.
Setanta should have played (if fit)....

Tactically inept...

Who cares about Rudd being there or not...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:50 am 
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gerry atric wrote:
You sound like a Bill Heffernan for PM and Wlson Tuckey for deputy type of guy Keogh. What made me angry was the way we squandered a game we had won, not that the TV cameras predictably focussed on the PM.




I thought a sense of humour was important :smile:

Fact is only arseholes become PMs

Not half brained dead old cauliflower
I couldnt give a @#$%&! if Rudd was there but it was hard avoiding him when the camera was on him every time they kick a goal in the last quarter when he probably knows about 3 lions players.

Still I guess some small satisfaction is that because of his and tens stupidity the slimy turd will lose votes from it.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:57 am 
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He has had a poor first term as leader and will hopefully be replaced. Hopefully Ratten will lose the next election.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:20 am 
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Grigg shouldnt have played.....
Garlett was too light and playing well against a tanking Melbourne didnt mean an automatic inclusion in a final over Yarran who did ok against a much more physically and finals like Adelaide.
Setanta should have played (if fit)....

Tactically inept...


This.

Terrible selections by the MC, and God-awful coaching.

Did we trade Kennedy, 3 and 20 just so we could have the luxury of sitting Judd on our bench during finals? :banghead:

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Turning point was when Simmo was inside 50 and centred the ball straight to Brown!
WTF didn't he have a shot...... :banghead: :banghead:

They rushed it down field and scored a goal.

i agree. i really thought that was the moment when the game changed. once they got a few goals, and the crowd roaring, it was like a tidal wave against us. thought we fought valiantly, but just come up short. why didn't setanta play?? i expect the setanta inquisition :grin:

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