This thread is inundated with a bunch of hysteric women with PMS! Chill FFS......

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So.........Setanta is obviously the new JR?...........

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I expect two changes for Round 24.

Like the side. Not great for yarran though. Thought he did enough to keep his spot. Looks like we are going to try to run them off their feet.

Carn the blues.

If we get through this week, I do not really think that many of the sides above us are unbeatable.

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I'm happy with the changes and don't understand the love affair with Setanta.

Sure he did well playing against Essendon* (Lovett-Murray on him)
Then he did well against a WAFL strength Freo.

Cloke ain't much but against a weak Lions defence he offers more than Setanta IMO.

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By far the worst selection decision for a long time (well, since Johnson was picked last week anyway....) by the CFC. Disgraceful that Cloke is in ahead of Santy..............and if Bradshaw is right, we are flowered.

Setanta works his but off, does everything right, provides flexibility and pace for his size, versus Cloke ????

No doubt there will be plenty that disagree, but for me, a shocker.

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Setanta has actually created or kicked goals in the last 4 months @ AFL level. What has Cloke done??

The ball doesn't just get carried straight back out of the forward 50 when he's about. Does more at ground level than Cloke, chases slightly better than Cloke. Our delivery needs to be precise for Cam to be useful... Setanta has made do with it.

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I'm not so concerned about our Rucks, Kreuzer and Hampson have been more thn competitive in the hitouts, Would love to see how Warnock goes but he has plenty of time.. If we were to go down that path I'd probaby rather Jacobs in as he's more match fit and in a bit better form than the big 206.

I do think Yarran is a bit stiff, but I'm glad he's been named as an emergency... I hope Garlett has enough in the tank to compete in a finals match and can keep his feet, personally I would have kept 1 if not both. Can you imagine the 3 quick indigenous boys wreaking havoc up in our forward line... I could but perhaps that will become more of a reality over the next year or 2.

Apart from that i'm happy to have Grigg back in the side.. I think he's in our best 22 when he's in form. Quite happy with the lineup, hope Clokey can pull his weight in the side. We'll need a good 22 man team effort this weekend, finals are high stakes but I think we can get the job done.

Lookin forward to seein Juddy and Fev showing the boys how it's done on centre stage!

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I can envisage a "late change" with Carlos or Jacobs getting a gig.....would not surprise at all.

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Merret - hammy against Port 2 weeks ago
Bradshaw - Quad against Port 2 weeks ago
Black - hammy last week
Drummond Quad last week went off in the first

I'm no medico but I hope they play by the end of the first quarter they will have no rotations

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The whole Betts, Garlett and Yarran request to play in the same team is laughable. Out of 22 players you cannot have 3 forward pockets. 1 forward pocket definitely, 2 maybe and 3 is an absolute luxury.

I think Garlett will struggle with higher intensity and physicality of finals football. He kicked four cheap goals against a tanking Melbourne. Yarran was quite good last week and some may think he is stiff. Yarran will be a player, but just needs more time. Betts is a certainty of course.

If there is a game that we will see the best of Cloke it will be this week.

A couple of strong, courageous marks at the right time than he'll have done his job and I'll be happy.

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One mark one kick no tackles last week Jim if he wants to get selected he needs to do more than that
I must watch different games to most he has been terrible the last 3 weeks

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Kicked a goal and created another. Did the same the week before.

Cam had a shocker against Port, and did better against Melbourne. Melbourne. I concede he has a good chance to compete against Clark, but what's wrong with Jacobs or Warnock for that role?

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You must have watched a different game SB, he had a goal and three score assists and the sme number of possies as Fev, even tho his team mates went to Fev everytime no matter where he was or how many he had on him. But you are right, he was ordinary as were almost all his team mates. Hasn't been as good since Fev smashed him, but was good v Geelong and previously v Sts and Dogs, so good form ag the top three. As for Cloke having 16 pssies and whatever else your predicting..... if he does we will have won by 30 goals. he's not playing Frankston this week. After his indiscretion last week he deserves no favours but has got one. And it is not about tackles all the time it is about zoning and putting on inferred pressure. Clole wouldn't catch me if I had a metre on him.

Selecting three ruckmen is madness and leaves us a man down. We have basically run out of tall, mobile players, but I think keeping a settled side for most of the last 10 weeks and then making major changes in the last 2 weeks is asking for trouble.

Grigg but he couldn't get in the 25 last week when 3 guys had been suspended. Now after playing Frankston, who are substandard, he gets back in. I like him but if his form hasn't been up to it for the last 6 weeks, last weeks game was not much of a guide.

Yarran did nothing to get dropped and neither Gartlett nor Cloke have enough credits to waltz straight in after stuffing up.

Last 3 games
6 kicks
6 marks
5 tackles
2 goals
1 goal assist
29 disposal

Sorry he is out of form

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What's the bet the bring in Hooper as a late withdrawal and try lure us into putting Joseph on him again and not one of their mids.

In a game that's going to be won/lost at the stoppages it is crucial that Joseph goes to someone like Rich and not a small forward.

Agreed.

And Carlos' omission has me =

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Carlos

K HB D G B T HO GA GC I50
Total 56 73 129 12 8 13 7 8 20 22
Average 4.7 6.1 10.8 1.0 0.7 1.1 0.6 0.7 1.7 1.8


Cameron

K HB D G B T HO GA GC I50
Total 69 40 109 6 4 19 53 2 8 21
Average 7.7 4.4 12.1 0.7 0.4 2.1 5.9 0.2 0.9 2.3



I don’t play stats.
But
Tackles
Hitouts
Inside 50's
Disposals.

CloLimited opportunities Cloke is in front..................

I trust the MC
Then again I trusted Parkin, Pagan, Ratts

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