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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:10 pm 
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Bradshaw, Merrett, Drummond and Black are all in doubt with hammy's


I got a friend in Brisbane with contacts in the Lions.
He says Black, Drummond are out.
Bradshaw will play
Merrett is 50/50



We always struggle to contain Brown and Bradshaw when they both play forward. Hopefully Bradshaw is forced to play back on Fev.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:11 pm 
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind they'll drop Yarran, which is a massive shame.

The guy ran his socks off on Saturday night and made great position on countless occasions only to be overlooked or simply ignored. Did he have a great game? no, he didn't, but he certainly endeavored to give us something.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:50 pm 
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind they'll drop Yarran, which is a massive shame.

The guy ran his socks off on Saturday night and made great position on countless occasions only to be overlooked or simply ignored. Did he have a great game? no, he didn't, but he certainly endeavored to give us something.


..contrary to my earlier posts, he seems to have returned from the west with the hunger and drive i was lamenting was missing earlier.. ..out of the poor team effort, i reckon he's safe.. ..though MC may think otherwise, he should keep his spot.. ..unlike some, i don't see any reason why he, edwardo and errol can't all play together, especially considering yaz and errol's smaller fitness base, they could easily either rotate off the bench, or even play forward and eggy betts goes onto the ball/middle bounces..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:56 pm 
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Clark is undersized, he's killing people with his tank and his speed. Warnock doesn't have the fitness to go with him. Hampson will jump all over him and Kruezer will match him around the ground.


..ditto, on form especially second half of the year Clarke is AA material, but doubt he'd make selection cos he's young.. .... ..but he's a better 'in' for them than Leuy is, ouyt of neccessity he's got his hand up next year as number ruck one i reckon.. ..i'd play the Hammer as our number ruck, and have him ruck most of the day vs clarke, and get the hammer to physically impose himself at bounces and run off him all day with his speed in general play..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:22 pm 
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Minimal change. Eddie back in, maybe Garlett if we go radical with three sharp small forwards. Yarran did enough to stay in. In the 2nd half the ball barely got across the centre so he had no opportunities. Warnock hasn't played a senior game this year and barely played last year. A reasonable game against a seriously bad VFL opponent is hardly great prep for a final. He'll win knockouts as will Hammer but Clark will slaughter Warnock around the ground and he can't go forward. Lions don't have a second ruck so maybe use Hammer on Clark (if he has the tank) and Big K deep forward esp if Merrett doesn't play.

If Brennan gives Clark a rest in the ruck then I'd think of using a non ruckman ag him around the ground (Bower) and have Big K smash into him at the centre bounce.

Height down back will be a problem esp if Bradshaw is back. We are really missing Waite and Jamo.

Play Grigg if he is in any form and have Wiggo smash into every contest, he's the only guy we have who can.

This is the game where Fev needs to play like a man rather than a supremely talent boy. He will almost always kick goals because of his talent. This is the game he can win if he plays like a leader. Chases and tackles all the time. Concedes no stupid freekicks or 50s, encourages rather than berates his team mates, and never sooks or whinges, forgets the umpires and just gets on with it. If he chooses to play as a senior leader we can win no matter how many goals he gets.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:28 pm 
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Clark is undersized, he's killing people with his tank and his speed. Warnock doesn't have the fitness to go with him. Hampson will jump all over him and Kruezer will match him around the ground.

Exactly!!!

206 should not play this year.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:49 pm 
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I can agree with that. These are my cousins words;

Warnock should not play at all this year. Who does he match up on? Clark's too quick for him. A different style of beast. It'd be different if it were Warnock that was the one that was in form and was dominating the opposition but its Clark and giving him an untested Warnock would be akin to throwing meat at a lion. You don't need to tell the lion to eat the meat, it's going to devour it the moment it gets it. Forget relishing it, it's done.

The following week IF we win it'd be the Bulldogs. While their ruck is a different type of ruck the way that the Bulldogs play is absolutely punishing on a player of Warnock's stature. Not a pleasant thought at all for a first gamer.

If we win that it's the preliminary final and you have absolute rocks in your head if you think for half a second that you're going to throw in a ruck who hasn't played even 1 senior game this year.

Forget Warnock. Forget Bentick. What you've seen from Carlton is the 25-27 players they're going to use in the finals and the only reason why Chris Johnson and Steven Browne were even played was to make sure that they wouldn't play a Final this year. The team is pretty obvious when you look at it.

FF: Betts - Fevola - Garlett
HF: Yarran - O'hAilpin - Walker
C: Stevens - Gibbs - Simpson
HB: Joseph - Bower - Houlihan
FB: Russell - Thornton - Wiggins
RU: Kreuzer - Murphy - Judd
IC: Hampson - Carrazzo - Scotland - Armfield

I dont care who the emergencies are so long as Browne and Johnson are out of the team, but for arguments sake I'll go with Jacobs - Grigg - Anderson

Too bad about Aussie. Hope that injury gets better over the off-season


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:11 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:

Play Grigg if he is in any form and have Wiggo smash into every contest, he's the only guy we have who can.



We can't just have Wiggins go in and smash at every contest.....he's too clumsy.....gave away some obvious free kicks on Sat evening because he refuses to watch the ball. He's a liability and should be out of the team on current form.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:35 pm 
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Juddanaught09 wrote:
In: Warnock, Grigg, Betts

Out: Johnson, Brown, Wiggins

Anyone caling for Setanta to be dropped has rocks in their head. Assuming Bradshaw plays, we only have Thornton and Bower as KPD.... what happens if one of them gets injured? If one of Waite, Jamo, or Austin were available then he might be in trouble, but they aren't so we need the flexibility to leave Setanta down back all night as insurance.

I want to see 206 in. This is a final and they are won and lost by taking risks and attacking. Clarke is in AA form and could murder us if he has a good night, at least 206 will be able to subdue him in the middle and not allow them to dominate the clearances.

Grigg must play. He has found form in the two's so we must bring him in to add some grunt to the middle.

Selections this week will be crucial, we must attack and not go in aiming to stop the Lions, but have them plan for us.

B: Thornton Bower Armfield
HB: Carrazzo Setanta Russell
C: Stevens Walker Grigg
HF: Yarren Kruezer Gibbs
F: Betts Fevola Houlihan
R: Warnock Judd Murphy
I/C: Hampson, Scottland, Joseph, Simpson

Agree totally with all these ins and outs, no time for sentiment with regards to Wiggins.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:40 pm 
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Would we rather have played Ess at the G on Friday night (a team weve lost to twice this year and a win wouldve put us into the StK/ Coll side of the draw)
OR Bris at Gabba (beaten twice, minus Black, Drummond, Bradshaw, a win puts us into the side of the draw against teams weve beaten this year)

Interesting..


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:42 pm 
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the tank was in full force

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:48 pm 
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no dreamers, we were just pumped by a more accomplished team

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:52 pm 
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Bring in Warnock and let our 3 bigmen crush young Clark.

Hard tags on manchild and mcgrath..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:58 pm 
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I expect at least some of the names Voss mentioned to play, and that this is a ploy to see if our players fall for it (which they might) and slack off.

Need I remind everyone of 1994?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:16 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
buzzaaaah wrote:
Jayz43 wrote:
Bradshaw, Merrett, Drummond and Black are all in doubt with hammy's


I got a friend in Brisbane with contacts in the Lions.
He says Black, Drummond are out.
Bradshaw will play
Merrett is 50/50



We always struggle to contain Brown and Bradshaw when they both play forward. Hopefully Bradshaw is forced to play back on Fev.


That happened last time and Fev killed Bradshaw in the first half. Once Bradshaw was moved forward after half time he killed us only after Black started getting the ball down there.

We have to stretch their backline now, Kruise or Hampson with Fev and Santy. Have to make sure Clark doesn't rome in front of our forward as a loose man which he has been doing recently for them.

Black is the key, in or out, both time we have played this year, he gets his hands on the ball usually its a goal assist. Black is one of the best midfielders going around.


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I expect at least some of the names Voss mentioned to play, and that this is a ploy to see if our players fall for it (which they might) and slack off.

Need I remind everyone of 1994?


Don, that final against Geelong was at Waverley 15 years ago. Think Rats was the only 1 there that day who got sucked in... Good point... mind you, we had a bloke who ignored the coach and wouldn't get out of the center square...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:18 pm 
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bosman wrote:
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I expect at least some of the names Voss mentioned to play, and that this is a ploy to see if our players fall for it (which they might) and slack off.

Need I remind everyone of 1994?


Don, that final against Geelong was at Waverley was 15 years ago. Think Rats was the only 1 there that day.

Exactly. He would know better than anyone the consequences of slacking off in finals against wounded opponents.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:21 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
Height down back will be a problem esp if Bradshaw is back. We are really missing Waite and Jamo.


That's why we need to bring in Sauce Jacobs and play Kreuzer forward. This will almost certainly require Bradshaw to play down back when you consider O'Hailpin needs to be covered as well. If Voss is stubborn enough to play Bradshaw forward we then have a severe height mismatch in our favor. If Bradshaw does play down back we can use Thornton and Bower to doubleteam Brown and run off him when the ball hits the deck. Bower is extremely damaging in that sense. He nearly always hits the ground running. I believe that this is the key to beating Brisbane. If Bradshaw doesn't play we should win.

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This is the game where Fev needs to play like a man rather than a supremely talent boy. He will almost always kick goals because of his talent. This is the game he can win if he plays like a leader. Chases and tackles all the time. Concedes no stupid freekicks or 50s, encourages rather than berates his team mates, and never sooks or whinges, forgets the umpires and just gets on with it. If he chooses to play as a senior leader we can win no matter how many goals he gets.


Great post and that's exactly what he has to do. We've all waited for finals for a long time and plenty have said that Fev would fire up for finals football and is a big game player (I was one of them). Here's his chance to prove us right!!

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Are there any official/unofficial functions or frothathons scheduled for Melbourne to watch the game as a supporter group?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:50 pm 
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Are there any official/unofficial functions or frothathons scheduled for Melbourne to watch the game as a supporter group?


Any Blues supporter is welcome to come around to my joint to watch the game on the plasma. BYO bevos. Will probably we watching the Dogs/Cats games before the Blues match. :thumbsup:

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