I meant at the Gabba
BTW, why would yesterdays match not be one of real circumstance??? Weren't both sides playing for a home final?

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Absolutely...

You cant have a Scarlett on Tippett if youre not stopping the run...

.. it wouldnt make any difference....

Whats important is how you play the game....where it counts... between the arcs..

Interestingly Craig who brought us the chip chip chip defensive game... has this year thrown it out for a new version run game .. running in waves... and mpoving the ball quickly between the arcs.. and having players run back to0 help the midfield and run forward to create options through the middle and forward...

We spent the whole preseason learning a possesion style of game and now have to quickly adapt to a quik moving game.. but in my opinion alot of our players are too static in their minds because of what they were being conditioned to do pre season and the earlier part of the season..we have alot of bludgers expecting alot of cheap stats...

Next year the emphasis should be on run and hard work.. not possession of the footy for the sake of it..

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I think we have been trying the run gameplan as well in the second half of the season.

Our handball stats have shot up enormously since round 18 which indicates we are trying to move it with run instead of a static kickmark kickmark gameplan.

I posted in the Crows thread early in the year that when Craig decided to go more attacking they looked terrible...they had the ball at half back and would try to run it through but they still coughed it up because it takes time to adjust to that style...to be able to make the right decisions and hit targets.

The concern is do we have the players who can make the right decisions and hit targets even if they've been playing that style for some time? You see the Crows have players like MacKay and Symes who aren't stars but they are running types who are good kicks of the footy.

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I agree with what some have said - I think that first 15 or so minutes showed how we must play the game - run and run and run and then start running and trustiung any offer from a teammate - regardless of who

but

1: Jammo and Waite are needed desperately - T-Bird is not your key backman and Bower is not as good when he must go back to the goal square on a leading forward. Not having Waite and Jammo (and Austin) gives us no flexibility - Wiggo has been weak (but covered) in the backline the last 3 weeks - last evening he wasn't covered.

2: Betts and Garlett - Yarran was great but he needs to develop a tank, with Betts and Garlett (and Robbo) out our midfield lacked depth, lacked rotations and 1 (at least) of them was always having to play as a small forward - robbing Peter to pay Paul.

3: Warnock/Hammer to ruck, Kruise to CHF and build a flexible, spreading forward line around him and Fev.

4: We need an in and under midfielder - losing Haddles hurt like hell.

The Crows killed us today in heaps of facets of the game (and when a kickout spells danger you know you are gawn) but let's not lose sight of where we are coming from, what we have achieved (finals!) and who was missing from our best side.

I think next year with a forward line of (say) Fev, Kruise, Santy, Yarran, Betts, Garlett

and a backline of (say) Jammo, Bower, T-Bird, Walker, Russell, Army

we'll take another step forward - especially if we play running football where we take risks and trust any and everyone - I thought yesterday as the pressure grew we began to use only those deemed 'worthy' (not consciously) which made is so easy for the Crows it wasn't funny.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

and StK got beaten by both Nth and Ess. So what's your point oh great radial, spatial, cognitively tangential and non linear one

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Yeah, fair enough. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I think there's something more to yesterday's match.

I'm happy to be shown comprehensively that I'm wrong, but a week ago we were one of 2 "form" teams in the comp. Last night, apparently we're no better than Richmond.

Let's be certain: Adelaide are one of the genuine contenders for the flag, and they were in a brutal mood yesterday.

They have bigger, harder, more experienced players, and a settled team, etc. Those are massive pluses to them.

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Yes, it's a combination of lazy bludgers and a static style of play I agree.

Some of those lazy bludgers have been there a while so until they're gone...........

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There's so much I could say...

Our mids (other than Judd of course) do not work hard enough consistently...why? That is a question that needs answering over the summer. Cannot see our mids doing the job next week. The heat will be on next week big time and Brisbane have lots of players with finals experience who know how to take it up a notch. Despite my personal opinions about Hadley (I think he is too slow and can't kick) his work in close in extracting the hard ball has been invaluable of late. The fact that we would miss a player of this ilk so much tells us a lot about the laziness and softness of our mids.

I'd bring in a Bentick this week if only to try and be a sacrifice and hopefully an example to our numerous outside running experts on what is required to win a clearance and get first use of the ball.

Even when we have been winning recently we have been getting smashed in clearances...this is a major concern and you will not win a final against any team at home or away if you do not at the very least break even in this department.

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Brisbane don't have a lot of finals experience
more than us but not what you would call a lot

Brown Black Power Bradshaw Mcgrath not a he'll of a lot more

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My overall rating for 2009 C -

Ratten needs experienced quality help in the coaching box and fast. Hope the cleanout of asst. coaches starts soon. An upside of the last two losses has been that the deficiencies in coaching box are more obvious.

In 2010 the target goes higher, its got to be top 4 and PF, a performace like tonite and Ratten should be given the marching orders.

It should be a concern that after 2 yrs in charge, the team is poorly drilled team and continues to play dumb footy.

Some constant annoyances are :

- Kick ins are still based on whim and a prayer
- Players don't block, shepherd, protect ball carriers
- Judd, Murphy, Kruze continue to be poorly protected
- Forward line set ups and entires continue to be diabolical
- Cannot extract consistent performances from the players especially on the big stage - tonite, last week against crows, games against the bombers...

Hope that Swan, Icke, and Board will act to improve coaching structure for 2010.

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Scott, things aren't as happy as they used to be down here at the unemployment office. Joblessness is no longer just for Philosophy majors - useful people are starting to feel the pinch.

I think we all know deep down he aint the man...but let's hope we can bring in a few people who may have enough knowledge of the modern game to get Ratts over the line next time....

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I haven't seen the game after 1/2 time but I did see that with 15 minutes to go in the game we were 28pts up. I presume Ratts and the boys must have done something right to get in that position.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Yeah and the filth have done lots of things right to almost win numerous finals and GF's ....so what is your point exactly. Is the game about some nice things done on a way to a loss or the result itself?

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Voss was just playing with us. He knew exactly how to win the game and got the job done superbly.

Ratten would have to be our worst coach since Jeasaulenko. Neither have or had any idea how to coach.

At last you are making sense...

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Any chance you'll post anything of coherence?

love ur posts verbs....but only when your sarcastic... you become very drab when you post with a serious tone....

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

Though you might have a answer as to how we got so far in front but obviously not. I guess that 1st 105 minutes was an allusion.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

WTF does that mean? We lost the game. Not good enough to see it out & the coach needs to take some responsibility for that.

How can anyone be happy about being 28 points up with 15 min to go and losing? We'll never go anywhere with that [REDACTED] up attitude

Uhmmm go back up a few posts to my post at 30 August....you may find part of what you are looking for.....

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre