Idiots.

If it's your job, and your expected to be there, and you don't show then no excuses....

Adios Amigo's.....

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Disappointed in the boys..

but in Garletts defense he looks like 1 beer would cause him to pass out at that weight lol

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#23: Lachlan Henderson

..hearin' ya loud and clear, and touched on that with my post..

..but Betts has been great with the assists this year (our best, top 5 afl?), and no slouch in the goal kicking department.. ..his pressure and quick clearance reflexes around the stoppages will be handy vs the crows.. ..just cos he's little, doesn't mean he doesn't help give out fwd line structure..

..as for Errol, he's been handy as well, exceptionally so vs the dee's.. ..his pressure and harrassment has been first class and consistent in every game he's played for us.. ..again, very useful in tieing up the ball in our fwd 50..

..sorry for Clokey, i don't think he's that important to team dynamic.. ..but you factor in those 3, and then Had's broken arm and you've got min. 4 changes.. ..that's a fair amount, no way we'd have made 4 changes [or at least, highly doubtful] if not for the club imposed suspensions.. ..it could unsettle the team, we start shifting players about etc etc.. ..and the cumulative effects could play a hand next week.. ..the whole 'don't flirt with your form' theory could hold some weight for a young team like ours..

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Thanks for the correction, thought JG mentioned this during an interview but I must have misundertood. The issue with Betts being a lot on the turps in previous years I am quite sure of - been told by someone who lives near him.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

Shakes head and says WTF....

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12-1-2016 - CAS goes bang, happy new year.. Drugcheats forever..

Has he done something similar before?

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

..he sat on Setantrum's boot..

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Pretty disappointed to hear this, though I'm glad to see the club is making a stand on the players being professional. Everyone makes mistakes, and hopefully this won't haunt them, (though Cloke has done himself no favours in trying to get a contract extension), but it is surprising given that they are on the cusp of the finals. What an opportunity they have deprived themselves of.

So it seems we will have 4 changes this week. There are a few who might come in but I'd go for:

Hammer (or Jacobs if not fit)
Army (very glad to see him back. His run will be needed against such a hard running side as Adelaide)
Yarran (by default as being our next best forward pocket player).
Ellard. (Great form. Has played well consistently in the twos and deserves a crack. If we think we need another tall backman then probably Austin instead.)

Wouldn't be surprised to see Pfieffer, Browne or Austin in either. Or to see 5 changes with Austin in for Ando. I'm just glad that there were a few who put their hands up in the twos last week according the the Ants reports.

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I would like to thank Collingwood for helping me keep faith in my old man. He always told me that 'People are thick'.

Absolutely unacceptable behavior. I don't care if all three have played their last games for Carlton. It's really difficult not to throw emotion into this post.

I'll steer clear of them though for the remainder of my post and go into the team specifics.

I'm on the anti-Cloke bandwagon. He always tried hard but he was way too limited to provide much of anything AFL standard. I honestly believe we wasted two games of experience in Jacobs by playing Cloke in front of him. I'm glad he's gone. He won't play finals football and that's a bonus in and of itself.

In regards to Jeff Garlett -- I'm disappointed in him. I was so rapt for him that he played so nicely against Melbourne and that he displayed the type of skill required to be in an AFL side. He played better off of Fevola more than any player I have seen in as long as I can remember. He seemed to have a bit of a chemistry with him. I hope this doesn't mean that he wont get promoted, but I hope they penalize him enough to make him see what true professionalism is. I love the fact that Chris Yarran will be given an opportunity to shine. His suspension could be a real blessing in disguise -- Yarran's been in ripper form and had it not been for the suspension may have missed again due to Garlett's 4 goals against the Dees (it's very difficult to swap a player out after they've kicked 4 goals).

Finally, in regards to Eddie Betts. He may have been brilliant before I got back to Australia (before the West Coast game) but from what I've seen out of him in the past month he seemingly is only getting by on reputation alone. Yes, he shines in several moments of most games (he had a few patches in the Port game which made our entire Carlton section chant his name) but for the vast majority of games he disappears. I would have dropped him out of the side weeks ago at least to give him a rest and to get him right. If its true that he has a reputation for being a drinker, why hasn't it been addressed prior to this? Why did it take them until the most crucial game of this millennium (almost) for the Blues to do something about it? I wouldn't be too disappointed to see him traded. However, he probably just @#$%ed up his trade value. Not a big fan - and that's after meeting his 'South Australian Grand Mother' (she had the 'family' photos to prove it) get on the FireFly bus that drove me back to Melbourne!

I'm really excited about Carlton playing Hammer/Jacobs, Yarran, Armfield and Griggs in place of these three and Hadley. That Hadley loss will hurt us more these three combined in my opinion and is what will cost us the game should we lose.

As far as the reselection of the team goes;

FF: Chris Yarran - Brendan Fevola - Simon Wiggins
HF: Andrew Carrazzo - Setanta O'hAilpin - Heath Scotland
C: Andrew Walker - Bryce Gibbs - Kade Simpson
HB: Jordan Russell - Paul Bower - Ryan Houlihan
FB: Aaron Joseph - Bret Thornton - Dennis Armfield
RU: Matthew Kreuzer - Marc Murphy - Bryce Gibbs
IC: Nick Stevens - Shaun Griggs - Shaun Hampson - Joe Anderson
EM: Sam Jacobs - Mark Austin - Steven Browne

I initially placed Setanta in the FP with MK at the CHF spot but it doesn't make sense.

The fact it wasn't more senior/important players, is probably the reason they're more senior/important.

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That would almost make him an honorary member of TC with plenty of like minded souls if that was to happen

Regards Cazzesman

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I saw that!

me too

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Do tell...

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Shit happens......lets all get over it...

I think the decision to suspend was the right one.

The wise old words of Spud come to mind when talking about Garlett.....it's easy for 19 yr olds to be led astray (I'm assuming he was)especially when they are new to the system/culture.

We'll be right...bring on September!

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Skinny, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

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Whoever is suggesting this is a bad move is kidding themselves.

It's an absolute embarrassment that they would disgrace the CFC name by doing *whatever* (as I've missed all the deleted posts) till the early hours, the night following a win that propelled us into home-final territory. They can honestly say goodbye to 2009 as far as I'm concerned. We need to send a message because clearly we have culture problems. Some people think they're untouchable and some people think it just doesn't matter. Wrong on both counts.

Season 09, despite bearing many fruits, could not bear more a fruitful fruit than a chance to send a message like this to our playing group. No shit, or you're out. How else are players meant to take us seriously? The eve of our finals campaign and players actually do this... This is shit, honestly.

Hugely disappointing from all three... Cloke - not even trying to hang on to his career, even after Saturday's embarrassment. Garlett - poor follow-up from his impressive showing, suggests he could care less. Betts - becoming a senior player, 2nd highest goal scorer, alleged 'role model'... shame, shame.

Gotta make a serious stand against this.

What is the status of your promise in case Essendon* win against Saints?? I want to see photos!!

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

Disappointing for Garlett but absolute stupidity from Cloke and Eddie. They should know better and have no excuses.
It's fortunate Garlett didn't win the NRS this week. It would have added extra spotlight to his indiscretion.

AFAIC, the club have acted swiftly and fairly. For anyone to criticise that is mindboggling.

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