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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:47 pm 
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Very disappointing but happy with the club's position.

Here's hoping that the stupidity of 3 players, doesn't impact on the rest of the team as they prepare for Saturday's game.

The 3 in question need to be told to stay away from the club for the rest of the week so as not to distract the players - the media frenzy is going to be intense.


It appears that all 3 players were at training on Monday.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:47 pm 
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As kennyhunter mentioned,

this is the chance for Yarran to shine!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:47 pm 
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Garlett lives with Eddie AFAIK. Eddie had a reputation of being on the piss too much and the improvement this year was due to him living more responsible. Very disappointing he is slipped back into bad habits and taken Garlett with him.


Garlett doesn't live with Eddie. Eddie lives with Mitch Robbo, one of my friends lives next door to them and I've seen these 2 at their place, I can guarentee Eddie doesn't live with Jeff. Not that this changes anything but just thought I'd clear that up. Btw, kudos to the club, in years gone by this kinda crap would be swept under the rug. Times are a changing my friends, this is a good thing in the bigger picture of CFC, make no mistake. This is not soft at all, this is the eve of our first assault on finals in 8 yrs and 3 players have potentially lost their spots, this is a massive blow to these 3. Don't compare this to Stevens because it's a completely different issue, chalk and cheese.

How dumb would you have to be to do this sorta thing especially garlett and cloke who are fringe players.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:51 pm 
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Naughty boys

Geez I know we were not to keen to meet the scum first week of the finals but this is taking it to the extreme :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:53 pm 
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caulfieldrover wrote:
Football is all about putting the talent on the park.

Life lessons can be taught in other ways

Why play follow the leader. Just because the pies and cats suspend players

why should we. If we had done this in years gone by we

would never have won a flag.

The world needs people like Dennis Rodman as much as it needs

people like Judd

There is a time and place and this is the wrong time for a suspension

says you.
i'm happy with the club's decision

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:53 pm 
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Caulfieldrover, you are not the only TC member who knows directors.
If I call any of them it will be to congratulate the football dept on finally taking a tough and correct approach.
This is the sort of decision that can lead to flags. Not making it can cost us flags.
A bad attitude is what causes us to play worse when playing lower teams. Consistency and discipline will turn us from a team with potential to a great team for the ages.
If we lose against Adelaide as a result, so be it - everyone will know they cost us a home final. Let's then see the next person to do it. If we beat Adelaide, it will show these fellas they're not indispensible and had better pull their socks up. I'd rather be making this decision now than next year when we are genuinely pushing for a flag.

Collingwood suspended two of its best players for the entire finals last year and look at them now.
The year before, Geelong suspended one of its best for 6 matches - he won a norm smith to go with his premiership medalion at the end of the year.

Great decision.

(PS. I'm not saying we can't win a flag b/c I am a total optimist, just that to do so this year would require many things to fall our way...)


spot on :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:26 pm 
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I agree with most posters. Good move from the club. Demands greater professionalism to the players. Advertises greater professionalism to everybody outside the club (which is of course good for the club, and makes us an even more attractive place for those players interested in ditching their current clubs).


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:36 pm 
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This is Bullshit. All three players need to have a good hard look at themselves, but seriously, why make it a public story? We don't need this kind of negativity. makes no sense at all. There would want to be a lot more to it than "they were late for a session".

Don't compare it to Collingwood. Collingwood suspended players who were multiple offenders of SERIOUS OFFENCES. Made the club and the president look like complete morons for defending them, and there were legal issues involved.

Geelong suspended Johnson for the first 6 games of the year and once again was guilty of countless offences. Not comparable once again.

This week is an extremely important game, and to make players unavailable, regardless of whether they would have played or not, is borderline negligent.

Flower these 3 for causing the situation. But I don't think the club should be applauded for their decision either. They have a responsibilty to put the best possible team out on the park for a game that will decide whether we play our first final for 8 years at home or interstate. I can remember a more important game in the last 8 years, and you don't suspend players from a game such as this for turning up late to a recovery session

:mad: :mad: :banghead:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:47 pm 
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..weak as piss.. ..from everyone.. ..woulda been swept under the carpet if it were more senior/important players, like it has been before.. ..yet to be convinced we're a hardline club..

oh, so firing squad at dawn then?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:48 pm 
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Just read the post that suggests that they didn't turn up at all due to being out till early hours of the morning. If this is true, then they should be left out for the rest of the year. If it is as the club has said that they were "tardy", then the week suspension is ridiculous. And if it is the other scenario, one week is just as ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:55 pm 
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flowering idiots , all 3 of them

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:59 pm 
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bjaffe wrote:
Don't compare this to Stevens because it's a completely different issue, chalk and cheese.


... bit racist :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:00 pm 
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Mail is Clokes played his last game for Carlton


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:00 pm 
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DownUnderChick wrote:
It seems the club is damned if they did and damned if they didn't.


'Looks like it. :confused:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:07 pm 
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Good move by the club, bad move by those lads.

Happy for the club to leave them out as long as they see fit. Especially Eddie. You'd think going through all the crap over the last few years would have had him doing everything right to play in September.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:12 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
And what would you have done BKB?

Regards Cazzesman


..honestly, i'm not sure.. ..i don't have the full facts, neither do i have the full facts from previous 'indiscretions'.. ..and with a home final up for grabs, i'm not sure letting them be available for selection would automatically be condoning their actions [if anything, such actions have been 'condoned' already].. ..perhaps there could have been other 'punishments' to be handed out..?..

..it's gonna take more than this to convince me our club is genuine.. ..if it were say fev and gibbs [random named 'star' players] i'm not sure the club would have done the same thing.. ..don't get me wrong, i'm very dissappointed with the players.. ..but there's obviously not enough 'teamship' if 3 players get up to mischief one game out of our club's first final series since 2001..

..how's this significantly different to the 'drinks with the prez GC' night..?.. ..personally i don't think missing a recovery session is so much incredibly worse, an all night booze up is an all night booze up.. ..it doesn't sound like it's been the first, yet from all reports it's the first to get suspensions.. ..sure, as another poster said "better late than never" [paraphrased], but look at the omissions/club suspensions and it seems soft targets are the recipients of 'club messages'..

Stevo , Snotland, Hoops[?] supposedly dropped for not doing the team things, but Snotland was underdone and Stevo out of form.. ..Hoops scapegoated i thought, since out of that trio he's the one that's really adapated his game to the team.. ..Stevo and Snotland don't seem to be playing all that differently, just better is all [back in form].. ..not sure a lesson was learnt..

..and now Edwardo [carrying a niggle for long enough, can use the rest], Errol's a rookie, and Clokey's always gonna have one foot in the ressie's team as it is.. ..i dunno, i just don't think much of the whole situation i guess..

.... ..i'm not entirely sure what i think should have been done, but the suspension doesn't fill me with confidence that our club's gone ultra-hard/professional just yet.. ..i don't think the 'crime' is worth a home-final.. ..admittedly, as i said aside from Bettsy the other two aren't gamebreakers [Errol could be though!!],, but being on the selection table would be good.. ..but it's also a matter of consistency for mine, and i don't trust our club yet, we've been woefully soft and inconsistent at times during the last few years and i'm skeptical.. ..i'd like to think our club was turning a corner, and i guess we'll all find out in time.. ..i doubt we'd have heard anything if it was 3 super-important players missing the recovery session after a booze up..

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:21 pm 
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Josh Kaplan wrote:
Mail is Clokes played his last game for Carlton


May have just beaten Wiggo to the captaincy of the ants... :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:21 pm 
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Club/team rules are there to represent the commitment to the club and team mates these blokes failed in their commitment to the other 19 players that played against Melb and to YOU the suppoter. We have a right to have an expectation of these guys. Yes in days gone by we would have swept irresponsible behaviour under the carpet and played the boys but past is past everyone of us have stood by the club, put out money in one way or another, tolerated the bs from everywhere we have a right to expect a certain level of behaviour and these guys were selfish. We can look back at the past 10 years to see were the ME ME ME got us. (3 wooden spoons waved in our faces)

The only real senior player in the three is Betts and he should be leading by example not taking Garlett out on a binge. Clokes future at the club had been debatable in the games I have seen him (which is most) this is a case of nail coffin for Cam. (too bad like the way he plays when in form but has hard hands and makes some poor decisions)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:24 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
[ ....i don't think the 'crime' is worth a home-final.....


If those 3 are what's going to cost us a home final then we obviously do not deserve to have one... :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:26 pm 
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happy with the club's decision

but let's not go overboard. I am sure all posters have been late for woprk before and may even have turned up hungover and unable to perform their duties until they had downed a bacon and egg sanga and a large, strong coffee.

armfield
warnock/sauce
yarran
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to come in.

We will miss Eddie, he makes alot of goals.

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