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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:46 am 
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Ytoojae wrote:
FF: Eddie Betts - Brendan Fevola - Jeff Garlett
HF: Heath Scotland - Setanta O'hAilpin - Andrew Walker
C: Kade Simpson - Bryce Gibbs - Andrew Carrazzo
HB: Ryan Houlihan - Paul Bower - Jordan Russell
FB: Aaron Joseph - Bret Thornton - Dennis Armstrong
RU: Matthew Kreuzer - Marc Murphy - Chris Judd
IC: Shaun Hampson - Simon Wiggins - Nick Stevens - Shaun Grigg
EM: Cameron Cloke - Christopher Yarran - Steven Browne

In: S. Hampson - D. Armstrong - S. Grigg
Out: C. Cloke - R. Hadley (inj) - J. Anderson

Pretty easy selections this week, I'd imagine. If Tex can play in the midfield I'd like to see Yarran get a go, but if Yarran wasn't even in the team this week there is no way he gets played in such an important game.


Who is this Dennis Armstrong of whom you speak?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:33 am 
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In:Army, Grigg & Hammer
Out: Hadley, Anderson & Cloke

Yep these would be my changes for the Crows.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:02 am 
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Big big game......not only to have form hitting the finals and beat a finals contender but loser will drop to 7th and have to play Brisbane at the Gabba which I know weve done already this year so........

Likely solutions
We win= Play winner out of Essendon* and Hawks
We lose, Lions beat Swans= play Lions @Gabba
We lose, Lions lose= play Lions in Melbourne

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:21 am 
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drop to 7th and have to play Brisbane at the Gabba which I know weve done already this year so........


We played them their and won, but they had all their backline out that night.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:30 am 
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I saw Joey play inside midfield up in Darwin in 2006. He played on Heath Culpitt who was the dominant inside midfielder in the competition and Joey destroyed him. Just a thought....


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:00 am 
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kkk wrote:
Ytoojae wrote:
FF: Eddie Betts - Brendan Fevola - Jeff Garlett
HF: Heath Scotland - Setanta O'hAilpin - Andrew Walker
C: Kade Simpson - Bryce Gibbs - Andrew Carrazzo
HB: Ryan Houlihan - Paul Bower - Jordan Russell
FB: Aaron Joseph - Bret Thornton - Dennis Armstrong
RU: Matthew Kreuzer - Marc Murphy - Chris Judd
IC: Shaun Hampson - Simon Wiggins - Nick Stevens - Shaun Grigg
EM: Cameron Cloke - Christopher Yarran - Steven Browne

In: S. Hampson - D. Armstrong - S. Grigg
Out: C. Cloke - R. Hadley (inj) - J. Anderson

Pretty easy selections this week, I'd imagine. If Tex can play in the midfield I'd like to see Yarran get a go, but if Yarran wasn't even in the team this week there is no way he gets played in such an important game.


Who is this Dennis Armstrong of whom you speak?

And is he eligible for the NRS?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:24 am 
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WE MUST WIN NEXT WEEK!
If not we will more than likely cop Brisbane in Brisbane first final, we wont beat them up there, finals is a different ball game
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:57 am 
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fraser murphy wrote:

Ummm...I used to run the 400 in high school and the lactic acid didn't usually hit until the straight, ie. 300m mark. Which is by no means talking myself up as an athlete, just making the point that's usually the mark of when it happens. Ask anyone who runs that distance, it's pretty common.


..you do realise though that yer pacing yourself though, through training you've learned how.. ..that's why you don't run the 100m, 200m, and 400m in the same manner.. ..on the footy field if yer chasing it's a flat out sprint, likewise if yer breaking the lines.. ..then factor in all the twisting and turning, handballing, kicking, marking and bumping and the repeat efforts which are evenly staged/spaced out etc etc and comparing simple runs to a footy player in regards to lactic acid build-up isn't a real comparison at all..

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:29 am 
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jimmae wrote:
For mine:

In: Hampson, Armfield, Austin, Grigg
Out: Cloke, Anderson, Hadley (inj), Wiggins


Im with you Jimmae, we need Austin back in there to be that extra tall down back. And Crows might likely play a few down there in Tippet, Hentshel, Burton, Stevens

Grigg is the only logical replacement for Hadley, when he was in his best form he can play that inside midfielder role

Must have Hammer back in so he can jump all over that donkey Sellars face

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:50 am 
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Rucci15 wrote:
jimmae wrote:
For mine:

In: Hampson, Armfield, Austin, Grigg
Out: Cloke, Anderson, Hadley (inj), Wiggins


Im with you Jimmae, we need Austin back in there to be that extra tall down back. And Crows might likely play a few down there in Tippet, Hentshel, Burton, Stevens

Grigg is the only logical replacement for Hadley, when he was in his best form he can play that inside midfielder role

Must have Hammer back in so he can jump all over that donkey Sellars face



Grigg is not a Hadley type.. hes pretty outside.. so how can he replace Hadley?

Not much quality in alot of those talls you mentioned.... usually the ball comes in high .. hits the ground and the team with the better ground players take it away.,

There are only 2 real tall forward teams in the eight... one is the Lions.with Brown being the only really big tall... and the other is the Saints.. with Kosi being the BIG for them... Riewoldt leads up the ground...

So why would you just want to hamper the defence's run ?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:31 am 
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i have a suspicion that gibbs is carrying an injury,

he has had 3 straight weeks of terrific first halves (geelong, port adelaide and melbourne) and has faded out of the games in the second half it is possible he is just running himself into the ground but.

he was restricted to run thru's until the thursday after the port game and to me looked to be moving with a distinct limp late in the game yesterday (did not play until about 10 minutes into the last)

i am hoping i am wrong but something looks a little off. If there wasn't so much riding on this week i would think a week off may be in order.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:54 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Rucci15 wrote:
jimmae wrote:
For mine:

In: Hampson, Armfield, Austin, Grigg
Out: Cloke, Anderson, Hadley (inj), Wiggins


Im with you Jimmae, we need Austin back in there to be that extra tall down back. And Crows might likely play a few down there in Tippet, Hentshel, Burton, Stevens

Grigg is the only logical replacement for Hadley, when he was in his best form he can play that inside midfielder role

Must have Hammer back in so he can jump all over that donkey Sellars face



Grigg is not a Hadley type.. hes pretty outside.. so how can he replace Hadley?

Not much quality in alot of those talls you mentioned.... usually the ball comes in high .. hits the ground and the team with the better ground players take it away.,

There are only 2 real tall forward teams in the eight... one is the Lions.with Brown being the only really big tall... and the other is the Saints.. with Kosi being the BIG for them... Riewoldt leads up the ground...

So why would you just want to hamper the defence's run ?

We have struggled even more with the 2-tall configuration against height than we did with the 4-tall configuration against speed.

And if they try to expose that, I feel Austin can man the same blokes Wiggo was manning on the weekend and do more damage offensively.

Further more, just about every team in the league either has a 3-tall configuration named in their defence or carries two talls on the bench... every team bar one I think.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:07 pm 
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i would like to see a lineup consisting of these changes settled before finals

In: Army, Austin, Hammer, and either of Grigg, Yarran and Ando are fighting for the one spot.

Out: Cloke, Wiggins, Hadley,

B: Joseph Thornton Russell
HB: Armfield Bower Houlihan
C: Carrazzo Gibbs Simpson
HF: Walker O'hAilpin Stevens/Scotland
FF Garlett Fevola Betts
RUCK: Kruezer Murphy Judd

I/C: Stevens/Scotland, Hampson, Austin, Grigg/Ando/Yarran

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'Grigg is not a Hadley type.. hes pretty outside.. so how can he replace Hadley?'

Wiggins then?

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i cant see brisbane beating sydney at the scg

which means if we lose to the crows

we would play brisbane in melbourne

hopefully bombers lose today to freo

and we beat adelaide would give us a home final against hawks

cos hawks will beat bombers next week

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:58 pm 
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jimmae

i disagree.

Since we have gone smaller we have knocked off Geelong and Port... and also Melbourne much more convincingly than what we served up prior to that,

Russell Robertson isnt a tall... and JAmar is a ruckman...Austin wouldnt help that either,,,

But the ball comes to ground much more frequently than it gets marked....

So if you can force it to ground you should be able to mop it up and move it foward quickly...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:11 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
jimmae

i disagree.

Since we have gone smaller we have knocked off Geelong and Port... and also Melbourne much more convincingly than what we served up prior to that,

Russell Robertson isnt a tall... and JAmar is a ruckman...Austin wouldnt help that either,,,

But the ball comes to ground much more frequently than it gets marked....

So if you can force it to ground you should be able to mop it up and move it foward quickly...



quite agree with this. but its still a concern that when teams send ruckmen forward against us (and its always the retarded ones) they kick bags... david hale, mark jamar. i think we are fairly covered with being able to send carlos back when they are forward... but its still a worry.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:23 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
fraser murphy wrote:

Ummm...I used to run the 400 in high school and the lactic acid didn't usually hit until the straight, ie. 300m mark. Which is by no means talking myself up as an athlete, just making the point that's usually the mark of when it happens. Ask anyone who runs that distance, it's pretty common.


..you do realise though that yer pacing yourself though, through training you've learned how.. ..that's why you don't run the 100m, 200m, and 400m in the same manner.. ..on the footy field if yer chasing it's a flat out sprint, likewise if yer breaking the lines.. ..then factor in all the twisting and turning, handballing, kicking, marking and bumping and the repeat efforts which are evenly staged/spaced out etc etc and comparing simple runs to a footy player in regards to lactic acid build-up isn't a real comparison at all..


Yes. I am aware of that, but that wasn't what i was responding to.

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Synbad wrote:
jimmae

i disagree.

Since we have gone smaller we have knocked off Geelong and Port... and also Melbourne much more convincingly than what we served up prior to that,

Russell Robertson isnt a tall... and JAmar is a ruckman...Austin wouldnt help that either,,,

But the ball comes to ground much more frequently than it gets marked....

So if you can force it to ground you should be able to mop it up and move it foward quickly...

I understand the thinking Synners but Geelong were having issues with their forward structure and Port did cause us issues at times.

I do agree that the extra small has helped us run out games, though. It's a fine balancing act but I think Melbourne showed that teams will start to attack it, and we know we can't keeping robbing our forward line of Setanta when we get stretched.

If we defended better through midfield, this probably wouldn't be as much of an issue.

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grrofunger wrote:
i cant see brisbane beating sydney at the scg

which means if we lose to the crows

we would play brisbane in melbourne

hopefully bombers lose today to freo

and we beat adelaide would give us a home final against hawks

cos hawks will beat bombers next week

and....how poetic would it be...beating Hawthorn,in a final....Fev winning Coleman...maybe even kicking his 100th???? :grin:
bring it on..(please bring it on!!)

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