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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:20 am 
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Dude i think your eating your words right now... :roll: :roll:
pathetic and inacurate post from yourself.. :roll: :roll:
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If i see one more positive post about JR im going to cry :cry:

In all me years of watching football i have never seen a player have so little influence on a game then him. You all get excited when he lays a tackle or blocks up the space, takes 1 good mark and kick 1 goal out of his arse but you all forget that this guy is a top 10 pick. A TOP 10 PICK who has been given more game time than any other fringe player on our list and has showed the least amount of improvement. You all get a hard on when he does something good as if he was consistently dong it when you all fail to see how incompetent he is. I want him to succeed as much as anyone, infact i was a fan when we got him but enough is enough. when he's on the ground we're a man short and we're not good enough to be playing with 17 on the field. We have tried him everywhere
a stopping forward - no success
midfielder - no success
half back - no success
tagger - no success
and yet he still gets a game, he barely comes off for a rest. We dropped 5 players this week and he still made the team. IF JR is still in our best 22 or even best 25 we will never win a flag. time to move on and give someone else a go. If we gave Browne, ADNO, armfield, yarran and robinson the game time that JR has been given then we would finally see some development.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:31 pm 
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kaptain kouta, no disrespect but i never suggested he was going to be the next ablett, murphy etc. I merely suggested this was the best game he has played. He played the role required of him well, applied himself to the contest and executed the decisions he made. this was a stark improvment on previous wks where he has been anonymous and butchered the ball.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:33 pm 
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kaptain kouta, no disrespect but i never suggested he was going to be the next ablett, murphy etc. I merely suggested this was the best game he has played. He played the role required of him well, applied himself to the contest and executed the decisions he made. this was a stark improvment on previous wks where he has been anonymous and butchered the ball.


How do you define previous weeks?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:15 pm 
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previous wks - difficult to remember off hand individual output in each game but i would say decision making and execution of skills has been an issue for most of his career. WHen played up forward - has not been effective as a hit up man and does not apply sufficient forward line pressure and sturggled to find enought of the ball. THese have also been issues throughout his career.
cant comment on specific wks cos i cant remember but game v pies comes to mind.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:34 pm 
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nevin wrote:
sturggled to find enought of the ball.


Sturggle - 1 definition - Verb: To be afflicted with a debilitating hangover to the point where you cannot speak.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sturggle

Still working on "enought". Any clues?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:38 pm 
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constructive criticism. if you want to correct spelling go join a book editors forum. come back and write something insightful about football and i might take you seriously


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:19 pm 
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nevin wrote:
previous wks - difficult to remember off hand individual output in each game but i would say decision making and execution of skills has been an issue for most of his career. WHen played up forward - has not been effective as a hit up man and does not apply sufficient forward line pressure and sturggled to find enought of the ball. THese have also been issues throughout his career.
cant comment on specific wks cos i cant remember but game v pies comes to mind.


See that's the problem Nevin, you are referring to issues he's had in the developing years of his career. Those issues are imprinted in your brain and do not allow you to see the positives in JR's game. All players make errors but because you were used to JR making those errors in the past, as soon as he makes one or two that's what you remember. Since Ratts took over he has made steady improvement and after a stint in the Ants this year, has come back bigger and better than ever. He's easily been in our best in every game bar the Pies one (he certainly wasn't our worst that night) and is coming along quite nicely. You do realise he hasn't played 50 games yet and that it takes most players 80-100 games to get anywhere near their peak performance don't you?

I think the fact that you can't actually point out where and when he's been playing poorly this year and the fact that you keep referring to his past robs your post of any credibility personally.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:22 pm 
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nevin wrote:
kaptain kouta, no disrespect but i never suggested he was going to be the next ablett, murphy etc. I merely suggested this was the best game he has played. He played the role required of him well, applied himself to the contest and executed the decisions he made. this was a stark improvment on previous wks where he has been anonymous and butchered the ball.


No, I never said you did suggest that, and did try and make a point in my post that I wasn't singling you and your post out for specific criticism. If you got that impression, I apologise.

IMO, aside from a few matches this year, he's been a consistent, and usually consistently above-par contributor to the team. I dare say if we had more applying themselves like JR does, we might have won some of those close matches.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:24 pm 
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HELLAS BLUE wrote:
nevin wrote:
previous wks - difficult to remember off hand individual output in each game but i would say decision making and execution of skills has been an issue for most of his career. WHen played up forward - has not been effective as a hit up man and does not apply sufficient forward line pressure and sturggled to find enought of the ball. THese have also been issues throughout his career.
cant comment on specific wks cos i cant remember but game v pies comes to mind.


See that's the problem Nevin, you are referring to issues he's had in the developing years of his career. Those issues are imprinted in your brain and do not allow you to see the positives in JR's game. All players make errors but because you were used to JR making those errors in the past, as soon as he makes one or two that's what you remember. Since Ratts took over he has made steady improvement and after a stint in the Ants this year, has come back bigger and better than ever. He's easily been in our best in every game bar the Pies one (he certainly wasn't our worst that night) and is coming along quite nicely. You do realise he hasn't played 50 games yet and that it takes most players 80-100 games to get anywhere near their peak performance don't you?

I think the fact that you can't actually point out where and when he's been playing poorly this year and the fact that you keep referring to his past robs your post of any credibility personally.


I bet you've got tickets to DR Phil...


Some posters just call things as they see it. I reckon nevin's one of those.. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:32 pm 
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HELLAS BLUE wrote:
nevin wrote:
previous wks - difficult to remember off hand individual output in each game but i would say decision making and execution of skills has been an issue for most of his career. WHen played up forward - has not been effective as a hit up man and does not apply sufficient forward line pressure and sturggled to find enought of the ball. THese have also been issues throughout his career.
cant comment on specific wks cos i cant remember but game v pies comes to mind.


See that's the problem Nevin, you are referring to issues he's had in the developing years of his career. Those issues are imprinted in your brain and do not allow you to see the positives in JR's game. All players make errors but because you were used to JR making those errors in the past, as soon as he makes one or two that's what you remember. Since Ratts took over he has made steady improvement and after a stint in the Ants this year, has come back bigger and better than ever. He's easily been in our best in every game bar the Pies one (he certainly wasn't our worst that night) and is coming along quite nicely. You do realise he hasn't played 50 games yet and that it takes most players 80-100 games to get anywhere near their peak performance don't you?

I think the fact that you can't actually point out where and when he's been playing poorly this year and the fact that you keep referring to his past robs your post of any credibility personally.


Well said.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:11 pm 
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budzy wrote:
HELLAS BLUE wrote:
nevin wrote:
previous wks - difficult to remember off hand individual output in each game but i would say decision making and execution of skills has been an issue for most of his career. WHen played up forward - has not been effective as a hit up man and does not apply sufficient forward line pressure and sturggled to find enought of the ball. THese have also been issues throughout his career.
cant comment on specific wks cos i cant remember but game v pies comes to mind.


See that's the problem Nevin, you are referring to issues he's had in the developing years of his career. Those issues are imprinted in your brain and do not allow you to see the positives in JR's game. All players make errors but because you were used to JR making those errors in the past, as soon as he makes one or two that's what you remember. Since Ratts took over he has made steady improvement and after a stint in the Ants this year, has come back bigger and better than ever. He's easily been in our best in every game bar the Pies one (he certainly wasn't our worst that night) and is coming along quite nicely. You do realise he hasn't played 50 games yet and that it takes most players 80-100 games to get anywhere near their peak performance don't you?

I think the fact that you can't actually point out where and when he's been playing poorly this year and the fact that you keep referring to his past robs your post of any credibility personally.


I bet you've got tickets to DR Phil...


Some posters just call things as they see it. I reckon nevin's one of those.. :thumbsup:



Except that he couldn't remember when or if what he posted really happened. :donk:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:39 pm 
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Just watched the Port game from last year when we had the great comeback.

JR was instrumental in getting us into the game.

He was our best in the last qtr IMHO as he made every possession count.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:50 pm 
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Just watched the Port game from last year when we had the great comeback.

JR was instrumental in getting us into the game.

He was our best in the last qtr IMHO as he made every possession count.

Yes, thats the fabled one and only good quarter he's played in his whole life according to some, well until last week. So now he might be credited with 4 or maybe 5 good quarters eh?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:53 pm 
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Just watched the Port game from last year when we had the great comeback.

JR was instrumental in getting us into the game.

He was our best in the last qtr IMHO as he made every possession count.

I watch the game, moreso that last quarter, a least once a month. I still go wild when Simmo nails that goal.

I'm going to watch it again tonight.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:55 pm 
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waited 5 years for that....

but aas they say in sales... its not the first sale.. but its the sale after that and then one after that, that its all about.

great game... but cant rest on his laurels.........

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:58 pm 
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As I just posted in the Ratten thread...do not let this thread degenerate again into personal insults or circular argumetents...

If you have any new and insightful comments to make then go ahead...otherwise how about we let it alone until next weeks game.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:01 pm 
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Remember the first time JR played Geelong? I do. I told my mates Dad how he is my man and he will be a star. Sure enough he shirked the first contest and they laughed at me. Next contest JR flew back with the flight of the ball and won the contest to redeem himself.

The note I took Friday was his marking. If you remember his highlights real on YouTube from the U18's carnival, he took a few strong marks very similar. It takes alot of confidence in yourself to take pack marks like he did Friday night in defence, instead of going the punch like most players would. Another great sign of a player emerging and realising he belongs.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:14 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
great game... but cant rest on his laurels.........


Most definitely. But on form, I don't believe he is at all, and hasn't at all this year.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:02 am 
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Jordan Russell: A Blue believer
Emma Quayle | August 16, 2009


http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/jo ... 79903.html

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:31 am 
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chubbyruss wrote:
Jordan Russell: A Blue believer
Emma Quayle | August 16, 2009


http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/jo ... 79903.html


could JR be described as a bit of a 'negative nancy'?

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