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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:18 am 
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In a few games where we've been written off, we've performed this year ... thinking of Saints and Hawks. We've suffered the pressure of being the betting favourite a fair bit this year ... will be good to go in as the underdog, no expectation. Go blues, push them to the line ... and over!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:20 am 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
What's Rattens game plan A? Is this the first half game plan we keep seeing or something new (hopefully)?


Hey Juddy why don't you Melvey ,Synbad and 99 put your heads together come up with the game plan to end all game plans - PM it to Cazz and he can pass it onto to Ratts and see how we go

If it is successful we can post it he in 8 weeks after we have won the flag


If you cant do that just give us one tactic he should employ to help us beat the cats

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:43 am 
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I actually don't mind our chances tomorrow night. I think part of our problem this year has been the weight of expectation. Last year you could just see an unbridled joy in some games... a team that was growing belief in itself. I can't help but think that has been knocked out of us a bit this year because everyone expects us to be winning. My two 'favourite' games for the year have been vs St Kilda and Hawthorn. Make no mistake, Hawthorn were at their absolute best that day, and there weren't many teams that would have beaten them (and we should have). Anyway, those games were matches we weren't expected to win, and you could just see the team start to play with a little more freedom or something. I think tomorrow night gives us that chance again.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:47 am 
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I am told that Setanta won't play due to a recurring injury that affected him last year.

Another big loss for us and surely this means that Cloke is recalled as the other forward option??


..if true, bad luck for him [and us] once again, but especially vs the cats,, bringing in cloke would be horror-movie stuff.. ..i wouldn't worry about replacing him with another tall fwd option, unless Krooz is used mostly fwd and Sauce gets a recall to combo with Hammer in the ruck vs the mummy and tomahawk.. ..i mean, the cat's are down on their rucks so it's a good opportunity to use krooz as a fwd with fev for the game, and bring back sauce.. ..cos the cats mummy is an old school lumbering tapman like sauce so they'd be fairly even..

..would also suggest to keep most of our pace up fwd to help lock the ball in.. ..and look to the crow's 2nd half short chip passes into the fwd line as a way of getting thru the cats defense..

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:39 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:42 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
My team for this week

INJURED: Waite Jamison Johnson
UNDERDONE: Warnock Jacobs Wiggins Bentick
OTHER: Yarran (leave)

ANTS BEST: Bentick Grigg Garlett

I think we'll start like this (Ratten game plan A)


B: Austin Thornton Armfield
HB: Gibbs Bower Walker
C: Scotland Joseph Stevens
HF: Houlihan Setanta Carrazzo
F: Kreuzer Fevola Betts

R: Hampson Judd Hadley
IC: Murphy Simpson Russell Robinson (Ratten Plan B) ...pace with class.


E: Grigg Bentick Garlett (and maybe Cloke to keep peace)

Plan A looks extremely slow across the park...

How about...

B: Joseph Thornton Armfield
HB: Austin Bower Walker
C: Houlihan Hadley Stevens
HF: Gibbs Setanta Carrazzo
F: Betts Fevola Simpson

R: Kreuzer Judd Murphy
IC: Russell Scotland Robinson Hampson

But no changes? Hmm...

I'd still drop Robinson for Wiggins or Garlett; you're bound to get more on last week's showing.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:42 am 
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grrofunger wrote:
we are gonna smash these pussies

I thought this was a family friendly forum. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:03 pm 
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If Stokes is left by himself to kick a bag of goals........again, I'm going to break something.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:13 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
My team for this week

INJURED: Waite Jamison Johnson
UNDERDONE: Warnock Jacobs Wiggins Bentick
OTHER: Yarran (leave)

ANTS BEST: Bentick Grigg Garlett

I think we'll start like this (Ratten game plan A)


B: Austin Thornton Armfield
HB: Gibbs Bower Walker
C: Scotland Joseph Stevens
HF: Houlihan Setanta Carrazzo
F: Kreuzer Fevola Betts

R: Hampson Judd Hadley
IC: Murphy Simpson Russell Robinson (Ratten Plan B) ...pace with class.


E: Grigg Bentick Garlett (and maybe Cloke to keep peace)

Plan A looks extremely slow across the park...

How about...

B: Joseph Thornton Armfield
HB: Austin Bower Walker
C: Houlihan Hadley Stevens
HF: Gibbs Setanta Carrazzo
F: Betts Fevola Simpson

R: Kreuzer Judd Murphy
IC: Russell Scotland Robinson Hampson

But no changes? Hmm...

I'd still drop Robinson for Wiggins or Garlett; you're bound to get more on last week's showing.


Plan A is what I expect Ratts to go with: defensive to keep us in the contest (and protect %)

I do have a preferred team:

OUT: Robbo IN: Garlett

B ......Austin Thornton Armfield
HB.....Gibbs Bower Russell
C......Simpson Betts Walker
HF....Stevens Setanta Murphy
F.......Kreuzer Fevola Garlett

R.....Hampson Judd Carrazzo

IC....Hadley Houlihan Scotland Joseph

Bettsy on the ball in bursts swaps with Murphy
Carrazzo and Hadley as the stronger bodies to help Juddy
I suspect Joseph will tag Ablett (and agree)
Russell can look after Selwood if need be, or Bartel and Ablett when forward

If Setanta doesn't come up, then I'd go with Jacobs.
Unbelievably, Wiggler is also on my radar (rather him than Cloke)

I doubt Robbo will be dropped after just one game back
Grigg did well in the Ants and also against the Cats in the NAB, so maybe he may get a look in.

Otherwise, I think if Ratts doesn't have any injuries I can't see any compelling changes.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:31 pm 
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I actually wouldn't mind seeing both Cloke and Gartlett come in.

Leave Cloke and Setanta playing deep near goals for contested marks (for when we just bomb it in and hope :mad: ) and have Fevola leading into space. Harry Taylor and Scarlett out is bigger than it sounds.

But i think the key to winning is two-fold.

#1. creating preasure.
Something we have FAILED consistantly to do for 4 whole qtrs since perhaps the StKilda match.

and

#2. Run & Carry out of the backline.
Watch the Crows game............. watch how Geelong struggled to keep up with them doing this.

Geelong are a great side, still the best in the leauge. HOWEVER, they have played more football than anybody else over the past 3 seasons. They are tired and they are starting to show the signs of this.

We can win.


(However i really don't think we have the mindset in which to do so, sadly! But i believe we can!)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:39 pm 
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Unless Robbo isn't fit, then I'd prefer him to stay in. Noticed two traits of his that really help this side:

1. his pressure is contagious, other players become more frenzied in their efforts .. he forces them to follows his example

2. his first instinct is to look inside. Time and again he brought the ball back into the corridor going forward. A great trait to have and straightens us up ... desperately need that

No changes for mine.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:48 pm 
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Horrible weather forecast for tomorrow, hail and thunder. May influence the selections, cant go in too top heavy.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:17 pm 
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by all suggestions from the club, jamo will not play this wk. play bower on johnson and thornton or setanta on mooney.
gotta get kreuzer playing foward. which means may need to bring cloke or jacobs in to help ruck. pref jacobs as cloke cant ruck for peanuts. Jacobs though still finding his feet in the VFL so doubt he will play.
dont think we can play cloke, krezuer/setant and fev in same forward line. too top heavy and will get swept out with ease.

i know this website sponsors JR, but how is he getting a game. He plays lots of minutes for not many touches. his ball use is erratic at best, forward line pressure not sufficient and he doesnt offer the same qualities the other poor ball users do e.g. hadley awesome in and under, armfileds pace and line breaking carrazzo defensive ability and ability to win ball.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:24 pm 
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nevin wrote:
by all suggestions from the club, jamo will not play this wk. play bower on johnson and thornton or setanta on mooney.
gotta get kreuzer playing foward. which means may need to bring cloke or jacobs in to help ruck. pref jacobs as cloke cant ruck for peanuts. Jacobs though still finding his feet in the VFL so doubt he will play.
dont think we can play cloke, krezuer/setant and fev in same forward line. too top heavy and will get swept out with ease.

i know this website sponsors JR, but how is he getting a game. He plays lots of minutes for not many touches. his ball use is erratic at best, forward line pressure not sufficient and he doesnt offer the same qualities the other poor ball users do e.g. hadley awesome in and under, armfileds pace and line breaking carrazzo defensive ability and ability to win ball.


Welcome to TC nevin, I mostly agree with your points.

IMO, I think Clokes papers are stamped. We have better options for every role Cloke plays.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:29 pm 
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Carlton planning to stretch Geelong's defence

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CARLTON will attempt to stretch Geelong's undermanned defence this week with a trio of forwards expected to come into selection consideration.

Cameron Cloke, Simon Wiggins and Brad Fisher all trained with the main group during Thursday's final training session at Visy Park and assistant coach Matthew Lappin said the Blues would focus on exploiting the Cats' defence that will be without Matthew Scarlett and Harry Taylor.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:49 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:52 pm 
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If the weather is meant to be wet and greezy, there's no point going in top heavy up forward..

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:59 pm 
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can see why everyone is saying we have a chance of winning due to geelong players being out, but we just dont play good clean consistent footy, and geelong do. They beat good teams when they play shit, we dont. im just hoping we dont get smashed.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:07 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Horrible weather forecast for tomorrow, hail and thunder. May influence the selections, cant go in too top heavy.



HAIL !!!! oh shit.

If so, it's going to be a slog...yuck...unless we win of course.

So height advantage can just about be shelved.

Have to wait and see if selections reflect the weather.

Wiggler and Garlett may be a chance for their forward pressure displayed in the Ants. Wiggo is a tough unit; perfect for the slog.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:30 pm 
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This sounds like ... Bentick weather!!!

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