Daniel Rich.

I really wish you were a man of your word melvey.

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dane's trolling again

Trade Hadlee back to Brisbane to Rich?

Mmmm...that's a pretty good idea Melvey.

But then if the same thing were to happen to Rich in a Carlton jumper would he have the necessary reach to be able to spoil?

Man this coaching caper's a lot harder than my armchair makes it seem...

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STURDYISM!!

Hadley does give us something in the clinches but his lack of pace is an issue but I'm sure we can still use him to his strengths...how do Geelong use Ling? He cannot be much pacier than Hadley.

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

ok, back to post game....

Over the past few months we have just seemed way too tentative, both with and without the ball. trying too hard to find the perfect option with the ball; watching a bit as opposition charges straight at the ball and then trying to tackle them with one arm out etc...

i am very worried about ratts' coaching - not sure we have an effective and coherent game plan.

HOWEVER, it seemed like ratts' observations after the match were exactly the concerns that i have been having which has shone a ray of sunshine over my relatively negative impression of him as a coach so far.

SO, I am prepared to take what I admit is the charitable view for the moment: that is, ratts does have a plan and he is trying to teach it to the boys who are also trying to learn it but are still thinking too much about it. doesn't yet come naturally to them. we saw this with the saints over the 1st 2yrs of ross lyon's tenure and also with the cats prior to them 'getting it' 2 yrs before they won the flag (they then had that woeful year and came back with a great team game after that).

So, for the moment, I am giving Ratts the benefit of the doubt.
Yes, we were terrible on Fri night and, if we play like that this week, we will lose our percentage advantage.
However, Ratts is not going to get sacked before next season and by the end of next year we will know for sure. if we haven't improved our game plan and performances by then, ratts position will be on thin ice and rightly so.

in the meantime, let's be thankful that there are so many underperforming teams this year that may allow us into the finals - experience which will be of benefit even if we haven't really been worthy of a finals spot. and let's hope that if we do make the finals, it doesn't paper over the issues we still need to deal with as a team.
(and for all my pessimism above, i am still enjoying the fact that we are MUCH better than we have been over the past 5yrs!!)

And i wish you'd do exactly what i told you to do in the PM i sent ya.

and im not going until he is GAWN!!!!!!!! yes he's got his got him. He's gawn. Yes his gawn!!!!

gawn ?

yes , yes you are

you never learn

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

is that part of the long lost 5th verse to "i am the walrus"?

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... an eagle flew out of the night. he was something to observe, came in close i heard a voice, bending stretching every nerve, had to listen had no choice ...

OK , OK

enough of the melvey show

lets move on

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

You know what I thought was great about Ratten's post match press conference. Not one "sort of" or "I s'pose". He is totally developing.

And on Hadley J&K, I reckon Ling does have a bit more toe, in terms of both speed and kicking skills. He also plays in a team though whose first thought and action when the opponent has the ball is to apply pressure to the ball carrier rather than delegate who should be manning up the player running past. I think this may also be a factor.

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STURDYISM!!

Maybe Bentick is the other option...

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

Ling just does not stop moving.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Sack Ratten probably

Teaser...

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

must confess I haven't listened to the press conference yet, but am glad that he hasn't used "sort of" or "I s'pose". Did he use "it's an interesting one" though. Seems like this is a favourite, particularly when someone makes an observation that he and the coaching staff hadn't thought of during the week.

Wasn't sure that anyone had thought of this yet so I thought I'd just throw it out as an idea. Who knows, it might generate some new discussion

Really insightful call there .

My point is that Ratten cops shit for trying to implement a Total Football style zone because the players have neither the tactical experience nor the work ethic to pull it off consistently. Yet in theory it would counteract the opposition's tactics of playing through our slower players, of which there are many.

Ratten cops shit for not having a consistent gameplan, but if he was to persevere with this zonal style at all times he'd not only be accused of being inflexible, but we'd lose more games than we'd win at this stage. And he'd cop shit for us not making the finals.

I'm not saying that Ratten is doing a great job or that he's doing a poor job, just pointing out that it's an extraordinarily hard job and this forum, a tough crowd.

I'm just glad Terry Wallace isn't coaching us.

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STURDYISM!!

AMEN, BROTHER!!

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Having watched the game twice - I am convinced that it was Hadleys work in the third quarter that turned that game - We won nearly every single centre clearance and Hadley was the one dishing it off . It allowed Judd to move forward and be dangerous up there . We had him trying to do a job at Half back at the start of the game - he clearly is a in and under type player and shouldn't be used any other way

We look a better side when Hadley is in there doing the grunt work - I cant understand why he keeps getting dropped and was only a late inclusion in this game

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Bingo.