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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:16 pm 
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I read this and then pictured you and :melvey: having a 'closed practice' forum where you develope your more insightful posts. :lol: :lol:

Synbad..."I'll say he has no game plan"

:melvey:...."Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I'll come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

Synbad...."Good, good then I'll come on and say...He has no idea and no game plan"

:melvey:..."Yeah, yeah, yeah. then I'l come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

Synbad...."Then I'll say the MC is a boys club and he has no game plan"

..."Yeah, yeah, yeah. then I'l come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

No doubt this practice session goes on for about 30 pages.

I can even picture their voices as they talk. :wink:

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Ask yourself this 2c. What's the difference between me having a dig at Synbad and :melvey:
and them constantly shit caning Ratts and anyone else connected to the Coaching Group every time the put finger to keyboard.

Do they play the man or the ball. Do you think either one would say what they say to Ratts face or Sticks or anyone else on the MC. Don't get all righteous on me when all they do is post the same shite over and over and flowering over again.

They will tell you their opinions are good for the club. But my point is that if I told the same joke every time I posted the punch line would also start to wear thin after awhile.

I would challenge both of them to get together, write a letter about their concerns to the CFC Board, and voice their opinions.

We/I/Everyone gets it. They want change. Good luck to them. Posting the same stuff day in day out on TC frankly won't do it. If they don't like what's going on they can phone Swanny and tell him their woes.

Synbad has his soap box and his pitbull jaws firmly locked on Sticks and :melvey: is just a tic on his backside with an IQ to match.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:55 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:

Ask yourself this 2c. What's the difference between me having a dig at Synbad and :melvey:
and them constantly shit caning Ratts and anyone else connected to the Coaching Group every time the put finger to keyboard.

Do they play the man or the ball. Do you think either one would say what they say to Ratts face or Sticks or anyone else on the MC. Don't get all righteous on me when all they do is post the same shite over and over and flowering over again.

They will tell you their opinions are good for the club. But my point is that if I told the same joke every time I posted the punch line would also start to wear thin after awhile.

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The difference is that Ratten and the coaching team largely control the playing destiny of the blues, we all come here to discuss. So its only fair that they voice opinions about the people in charge. Can't say the same about you having a go at Syners and Melvey.

As for the same shit being posted it is a reflection of the same shit being produced on field.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:19 am 
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Not sure what the gripe is...we are all here to chat about our footy club and how it is travelling. We are either travelling beautifully or we are not and each person comments as he sees fit either way on how we are going and how we can improve. Those that take it too personally have probably got bigger issues to worry about.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:12 am 
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So you don't think Synbads and :melvey's: attacks....sorry 'chats' about Ratts and Sticks aren't bordering on personal :confused: :confused: :confused:

You and I both know they could write their posts now for the post match discussion of next Friday nights game.

Of course they are entitled to voice their opinions on TC. But we all know their combined posts over the past month, regardless of how the Blues play, are the equivalent of the 5 year old in the back seat of the family sedan.....ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:13 am 
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my two cents wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
I read this and then pictured you and :melvey: having a 'closed practice' forum where you develope your more insightful posts. :lol: :lol:

Synbad..."I'll say he has no game plan"

:melvey:...."Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I'll come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

Synbad...."Good, good then I'll come on and say...He has no idea and no game plan"

:melvey:..."Yeah, yeah, yeah. then I'l come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

Synbad...."Then I'll say the MC is a boys club and he has no game plan"

..."Yeah, yeah, yeah. then I'l come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

No doubt this practice session goes on for about 30 pages.

I can even picture their voices as they talk. :wink:

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How about playing the ball and not man ?



At least Cazzesman has a gameplan.... he uses pictures...and plays the man...

He cant argue...

but he does use nice pictures and he does play the man...he flies close to the wind and seems to get the benefit of the umpiring....which is a skill... :clap:

BUT...


.......ratts has no gameplan...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:17 am 
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where's wojee?? :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:25 am 
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my two cents wrote:
So its only fair that they voice opinions about the people in charge. Can't say the same about you having a go at Syners and Melvey.


Fair! Fair! You think they are fair and unbias in their posts. So it's okay for them to say whatever they like, whenever they like about anyone employed at the club and not have anyone say anything in return.

If Ratts or Swanny or Sticks came on to TC would they be permitted a right of reply?

I've attempted to post enough logical/factual rebuttles to their concerns over the past months but they won't/can't be swayed. Such is life. This time I though I would try some humor. I guess you are more of a 'Hey Dad' kind of guy rather than a 'Ren and Stimpy' type. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:30 am 
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Synbad wrote:
my two cents wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
I read this and then pictured you and :melvey: having a 'closed practice' forum where you develope your more insightful posts. :lol: :lol:

Synbad..."I'll say he has no game plan"

:melvey:...."Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I'll come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

Synbad...."Good, good then I'll come on and say...He has no idea and no game plan"

:melvey:..."Yeah, yeah, yeah. then I'l come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

Synbad...."Then I'll say the MC is a boys club and he has no game plan"

..."Yeah, yeah, yeah. then I'l come on and say..Ratten has no game plan"

No doubt this practice session goes on for about 30 pages.

I can even picture their voices as they talk. :wink:

Regards Cazzesman[/color]


How about playing the ball and not man ?



At least Cazzesman has a gameplan.... he uses pictures...and plays the man...

He cant argue...

but he does use nice pictures and he does play the man...he flies close to the wind and seems to get the benefit of the umpiring....which is a skill... :clap:

BUT...


.......ratts has no gameplan...


:lol: :lol: If I wanted to 'go the man' I would go to a sensei master. I've got your number I'll give you a call. :wink:

I learnt long ago that arguing with you is like trying stop my cat sleeping 23 hours a day. It's just a waste of my time. :sly:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:42 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
So you don't think Synbads and :melvey's: attacks....sorry 'chats' about Ratts and Sticks aren't bordering on personal :confused: :confused: :confused:
Regards Cazzesman[/color]


Questioning Rattens and Sticks professional competence should be fair game, as it influences the teams on field performance. I have not read a single post thats attacks their personal lives :confused:

Also, why would Ratten, Swanny, or Sticks not be permitted right of reply on TC ? :confused: I guess they are as welcome as any person wishing to post.

May be you are little too close to the action and are taking criticisms directed at Ratten and Sticks personally.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:05 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
my two cents wrote:
So its only fair that they voice opinions about the people in charge. Can't say the same about you having a go at Syners and Melvey.


Fair! Fair! You think they are fair and unbias in their posts. So it's okay for them to say whatever they like, whenever they like about anyone employed at the club and not have anyone say anything in return.

If Ratts or Swanny or Sticks came on to TC would they be permitted a right of reply?

I've attempted to post enough logical/factual rebuttles to their concerns over the past months but they won't/can't be swayed. Such is life. This time I though I would try some humor. I guess you are more of a 'Hey Dad' kind of guy rather than a 'Ren and Stimpy' type. :wink:

Regards Cazzesman



So you are now the attorney???

They are free to come here and post...

Others have....

Unless they have specifically given you 'lacky licence'... where you can come in and put up pictures from the net in defence of a shit gameplan???

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:10 am 
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Dont get me wrong Cazz... im not complaining.... you can make as many of the personal snides as you like... it is water of a ducks back for me... and i dont take it personally ... even though theyre designed to be just that.

Now.... what makes you believe President Sticks and Coach Ratten are the best qualified people or their jobs?
And what has it been in Rattens coaching that has you so excited.. that excited that you wont hear a word said about him??

Exactly??

Cos so far i cant see anything in your argument suggesting that he is the right man except "Ross Lyon was hammered " "Bomba was hammered" but you have not been straight about the whole thing.. you havent told us that both of these men have coaching backgrounds that are solid and Ratts hasnt...

Plus he has no gameplan...

They can come in and defend themselves.. this is a football board for supporters to vent their concerns..

Its why this thing exists Cazz.. in case you wernt sure....

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:46 pm 
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that North who kicked 0.9 in the last probably wouldnt have won if they'd kicked a little straighter because after a goal the ball goes back into the middle and the game restarts.

The stupid turnovers from kickouts surely coiuldnt happen if they'd kicked a goal either!!

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Exactly right. If North kicked one goal, we could of kicked five straight. Who knows?


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A big danger this week is Geelong's innacuracy in front of goal. Expect each goal to be worth 7-8 points at least.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:13 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Dont get me wrong Cazz... im not complaining.... you can make as many of the personal snides as you like... it is water of a ducks back for me... and i dont take it personally ... even though theyre designed to be just that.



Of course you were meant to take it personally. But you were also meant to take it as a humorous aside. :wink: I know you have broad shoulders and can take a few digs. After all, if you hand out a few you have to take a few, that just life.

To me the funny thing about most of this thread, is the way :melvey: has hitched his reins to your Anti Ratts/Sticks wagon. That is hillarious :lol: :lol: :lol: I know how much you believe in what you are saying but I can picture you cringing in horror when :melvey: comes in to support you. I feel your pain there :smile:

As for the Clubs current situation, I have patience. I have met Ratts several times and as a result I have confidence in him continuing to improve the performance of the team. Yes we are playing some woeful football at times but we are also playing some good football at other times. You see it different.

You will keep banging on about the issue over the coming months and no doubt I will find things funny from time to time. Good luck with Tonto :thumbsup:

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Love your work Cazz :grin: :grin: :grin: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:38 pm 
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As for the Clubs current situation, I have patience. I have met Ratts several times and as a result I have confidence in him continuing to improve the perfromance of the team. Yes we are playing some woeful football at times but we are also playing some good football at other times. You see it different.


I guess at the start of the year I would have said that making finals was a successful year. I would also have measured us against the Pies and the Dons, and second time around they both embarrassed us, yet I don't think they are better than us. My concern with Ratts is that the players too often lack intensity, play as individuals and look confused- or their style of play does. And I am concerned that we have an incredibly inexperienced coaching group. If players lack intensity it indicates a lack of leadership around the club and a lack of authority with the coach, if they look confused it indicates a lack of communication skills.

Ratts seems a good bloke, but is he the best bloke to be coach.

Did the club's process for selecting a coach mean that we have the best possible group to develop our side and take it as far as it can go?

If we have an okay coach with some assistants that are good and some that fall wide of the mark then our chances for a flag will be a fair way into the future. We need to have patience, but only if we have the best set up. I think we are still to much old Carlton. (And the prez in the coaches box seems particularly amateurish). As for people questioning the club and employees of the club - it goes with the territory and is understandable, because we all stood back in the late 90s as the club made terrible recruiting and management decisions, and our reward for silence was almost losing the club. We are members and therefore own the club, the club survives because of supporters. We set record membership numbers when the club was at its lowest ebb. It wouldn't be a bad thing if Ratt's did come on here. We are all here because we care, and that is why the club still exists. To be honest I would have hoped for a better performance on Friday from a side that has ben as terrible as us and is now on the brink of finals playing a side that is a game away from the wooden spoon. When the positions were reversed in the last game of 2003 North showed a fair bit more than we did on Friday


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gerry atric wrote:
caz wrote:
As for the Clubs current situation, I have patience. I have met Ratts several times and as a result I have confidence in him continuing to improve the perfromance of the team. Yes we are playing some woeful football at times but we are also playing some good football at other times. You see it different.


I guess at the start of the year I would have said that making finals was a successful year. I would also have measured us against the Pies and the Dons, and second time around they both embarrassed us, yet I don't think they are better than us. My concern with Ratts is that the players too often lack intensity, play as individuals and look confused- or their style of play does. And I am concerned that we have an incredibly inexperienced coaching group. If players lack intensity it indicates a lack of leadership around the club and a lack of authority with the coach, if they look confused it indicates a lack of communication skills.

Ratts seems a good bloke, but is he the best bloke to be coach.

Did the club's process for selecting a coach mean that we have the best possible group to develop our side and take it as far as it can go?

If we have an okay coach with some assistants that are good and some that fall wide of the mark then our chances for a flag will be a fair way into the future. We need to have patience, but only if we have the best set up. I think we are still to much old Carlton. (And the prez in the coaches box seems particularly amateurish). As for people questioning the club and employees of the club - it goes with the territory and is understandable, because we all stood back in the late 90s as the club made terrible recruiting and management decisions, and our reward for silence was almost losing the club. We are members and therefore own the club, the club survives because of supporters. We set record membership numbers when the club was at its lowest ebb. It wouldn't be a bad thing if Ratt's did come on here. We are all here because we care, and that is why the club still exists. To be honest I would have hoped for a better performance on Friday from a side that has ben as terrible as us and is now on the brink of finals playing a side that is a game away from the wooden spoon. When the positions were reversed in the last game of 2003 North showed a fair bit more than we did on Friday


Very good points...should be in the Ratts thread.

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Cazzesman wrote:
So you don't think Synbads and :melvey's: attacks....sorry 'chats' about Ratts and Sticks aren't bordering on personal :confused: :confused: :confused:

You and I both know they could write their posts now for the post match discussion of next Friday nights game.

Of course they are entitled to voice their opinions on TC. But we all know their combined posts over the past month, regardless of how the Blues play, are the equivalent of the 5 year old in the back seat of the family sedan.....ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET?


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