if we had a coach wed have a gameplan....

and we would look organised out there....

not disorganised...

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Well we could have got VOSS as coach and after watching the game last night Brisbane looked worst than us.

Did they have a game plan?

The team with the better skills wins games and Collingwood have hard runners and players who never miss a target. While we have players who can't kick to save themself. IT IS NOT THE COACH!!!

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Of course its the coach and the set up....

Collingwoods coach and set up are superior to ours..

They know what they want from players and from the team...

They get the most out of a bunch of ordinary footballers..

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Even Malthouse can't win a premiership with Collingwood - does he have a game plan?

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A coaches role is to maximise the teams output and same with individuaals.

He does that... we dont....

Thats the difference...!!!

You wont get a flag if you cant...no matter who is in the side...

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Allan Joyce coached a team to a premiership - did he have a game plan?

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Sounds like we dont need a coach....

The players can just get out there on the paddock...

Elliot was right about coaches... = overrated.

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Robert Walls coached a team to a premiership. Did he have a game plan?

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Wallsy was actually quite a tactician for his day....

.. so you would have to say yes... Walls did have a gameplan....

Ratts doesnt....

well he does but its childish and wrong... and about 4 years of our date..

... not just that but his players arent playing for him either...

hope to see that change....

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Synbad or any of Ratts detractors please explain to me Ratt's game plan and why it is out of date?

From where I stand the biggest determinant of our success has been our execution. It has been very erratic. When we do not get clean possession out of our the middle we look third rate.

Yes he did and most game plans were similar in his day ... Q.L.D. ... quick, long and direct ... the teams with the better players to execute Q.L.D. won more often than those that didn't

Everybody please remember these are opinions of a DANCER. A person who has never played the game, never been involved in a club as either a support staff or volunteer even, all by his won admission.

So you need to keep his comments in perspective and treat them for what they are.

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You use this as an excuse to have Rattens gameplan explaiened?

Ok.

Its about possession... must hold possession at all times.
We use half a dizen players as lock down players... then we have 3 midfielders that have to try and create on their own... but they dont chase back that well... so cos they dont chase back defensively very well... we have half locking down and half a midfield thats trying to create...
Also cos half of them are locking down and being reactive to the opposition team... they cant zone.. and cos we do try to zone and lock down alot of our players are out of position...
Our inside fifties are bomb it to Fev... cos were only playing with 3 creative midfielders so our midfileld is playing with less creative numbers.
When we do have the ball across half back we are not supposed to take the game on.. we must slow it down at all costs and make sure we dont turn the ball over... "if we have the ball they dont have the ball and if they dont have the ball they cant score".(Adelaide Crows circa 1995/1996).. now what this means is the organised teams have time to organise defensively....
Also means with all the chipping around and attempting to share the ball with little backwards/sidewards chips our players arent running too hard.. they are looking for the cheap handball/chip receives).. its just bad conditioning.

The other bit of the ganeplan is "give it to the champ" the champ is Chris Judd.. and its the name Ratts nicknames him...
Of course the opposition teams are aware of the "Give it to the champ " gameplan.. and are ready for it... so they have 3 guys hanging of "the champ" at all times....so you often see players give the ball to Juddy no matter whats going on around him and how many opp players are dagging off Juddy(Usually results in a 4 man tackle on Judd and Juddy miraculously slipping a handball away beore being smashed)

Thats most of the gameplan.. in a nutshell...
Its remarkably complex and adventurous.

It promotes positive football... and a positive mindset..!!!

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Ok so Malthouse is a dancer... but Ratts is a supercoach???

Australia you have talent is finished... but you dont have comedy talent..

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Was that our gameplan against St kilda as well? Because that certainly isn't how played against them. Are you saying the players went against the gameplan against the saints and almost won?

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Hellas is all about context... you pick out one straw out of a whole haybail and cling to that....

Watch all the games...commecnt on the season as a whole.... dont clutch to a single straw...

Besides Swans lost that game by a point...

So what???

You dont look at the odd quarter.. the odd game...

Pattens are formulated over a season...

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Ok then give me your explanation as to why we played that way against the Aints.

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A lot of comments about how negative we have been in the first half and the gameplan is thrown out the window and we attack in the second half

Well it may be of interest but the last few games the number of tackles we have had in the 2nd half has doubled the number of tackles in the 1st half and yet we are supposed to be playing negative football in the first half .


Strange in deed

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We have a game plan even if it looks disorganised. It's more about the execution and possibly due to confusion. But, we seem to lift most times when in strife, usually after the initial game plan been altered and we attack. What we did after half-time against Sydney, game plan-wise, was terrific. Don't think the initial, defensive, reactive plan suits. Like us to attack more from the start as we look better and look like we have a plan.

Wonder what people thought of Clarkson or Lyon's game plan in their initail years? I'm tipping no different.

We all knew what the gameplan was under Pagan
and all the players were well drilled at executed Pagan plan

and where did that get us again

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