Pro

Won another 4 points

Won last 4 out of 5 even though we havent played well

Played and won when Fev and judd only had fair games

Murphy BOG - improved goal kicking out of sight

Gibbs - a very good game

Walker

Crowd of 38 k against North

Cons

Get the ball out of defence -kick outs terrible

Handball shocking - handball to a persons ankles seems fashionable

need Jamo back as possible

Gartlett or Yarran need to play -otherwise we need to settle down the side -no more changes after inclusion of gartlett and jamo

PROS: finals, with one more win. so much better then bottom four.

CONS: A lot dodgy kicks, that benefited opposition.

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Pros:

4 points
Murphy and Gibbs
Robbo the nutcase, needs to settle down a bit and hell be a gun
Thornton showing great courage and playing another good game
Stevens very encouraging, one of our best

Cons:

Lack of structure and pressure again
Armfield's disposal
Fell over the line against a team who was tanking
Will lose by 100 points next week if we play like that
May make the finals by default, but we will get embarrassed if we dont harden up

Pro;-I had the feeling we would have done whatever it took to win the game. If one of their shots went through we would have answered straight back.
- breaking another hoodoo.
- Team willing to get over the line when they are clearly running out of gas.
- Swinging Thornton forward.
- Walker.

Cons:- Kruezer, Hampson, Joseph all starting to tire.
- Not capitalising on momentum and giving it up too easy.
- Bad decision making and kicking and efforts at times.

PRO:

Don't have to read dumb posts by dumb posters about how Bryce Gibbs is just a good footballer and is weak overhead.
The kid YES kid is a STAR.

CONS:

Umpires

No room for Stevo in there anywhere?

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

PROS
Murphy - UNSTOPPABLE!!
Gibbs - Shrugging off the doubters
Kreuzer - Just doesn't seem to ever let the side down
Stevens - Better, showed that he wants to be back in the team
Walker - Steady start, no injuries

CONS
Hampson - God he can leap, but he just doesn't seem to be able to kink up and dominate..... so tantalizing/frustrating. CMON HAMMER!
Kick-Ins - Is Ratten laughing at our frustration??? Surely someone at Carlton has enough brain cells to notice that our kick-ins are not absolutely AWESOME...
Jamison - What is going on? Why do they keep naming then replaing him???? very confusing

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

Just finished watching...


PROS

Won a game we should have lost - Roos choked (DID NOT TANK)
Gibbs - excellent use and put head over the ball
Stevens - ditto - justified his dropping in a way
Robbo, Walker - not much of the ball but made a difference
Murphy Judd Thornton forward the key
Hadley pretty good first up
Houlihan good first half then ....?
Russell - not much of the ball but was good when on screen
Army - won his share of contests and provided drive, still scrappy
Liked how we tried at times to bring the ball inside by hand - it worked well when we did it - not often enough
Fev was ok - WTF with 1st half kicking again
Greenwood very impressive on Judd - first time i've seen him. Will be a gun


CONS

Umpiring - I very rarely bitch about the umps but they were EXECRABLE
Scotland - zero impact -
Betts - WAAAAY off the boil - 10 chances to win the ball he would have done early in the year, well out of form. Kept trying
Austin - got 2 shocking decisions and out-sized but struggled
Bower - non-factor after getting hurt - which hurt us
Setanta forced back did ok but want to see him at CHF
Hammer and Kreuz smashed by Big Mac, Kreuz fought on in 2nd half ok
Joseph - done great this year but well beaten - time for a break
We're a very ordinary TEAM - waste of top 8 space. Might make it by default
People bagging Adam Simpson - what has he ever done to bother you? Been a solid player for 15 years - admirable player - the kind we could have done with over the last decade.
And another thing, North were NOT tanking - they had a good crack at it and fell short. 3 goals 6 would have won the game

Last time I checked raw and atheltic 200+cm 21 year olds who haven't played all their life don't dominate....I wish he did too, though

His ruckwork is coming along very nicely IMO.

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THis bugs me a little - Gibbs played a very good game. The "doubters" call it as they see it. This is how it goes:
good game - praise
bad game - criticism

What does make the finals by default mean?

Same meaning as the Hawks fluked a flag last year...i.e. it means nothing.

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

It means.....we're marginally less rubbish than the teams below us.

Defined: by default - happening because something else has not happened: eg. they gained a colony by default because no other European power wanted it.
or: they made the finals by default, not because they were a competent team, but because the rest were even less competent.
Look at the chances North had to beat us in the last quarter. Come on!
By default!
We have upside with the players coming into the team last night and Warnock Jacobs and Jamison to become available, that might be our saving grace.

Still don't believe in flukes...nobody flukes a flag and nobody flukes making the 8...if the teams below us are crap then thats no problem of ours....we have more pressing issues to worry about...most notably that we have a coach who is not up to it and is not getting the best of what we have....and because IMO what we have is very good this pisses me off!

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

Pros: Walker back unscathed.

T-Bird doubling his career goals tally in a half of footy!


Cons: WTF has Austin done to the Umps??? The poor kid cops some shocking decisions.

Pros:
The Number ones
4 points
Walker return

Con:
Armfield and Hadleys 12 Clangers
kick outs
Fev shitty in the first half

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The climbing has alread began

Pro's:

Stevens - A good comeback
Gibbs
Murphy
We were lucky that North couldn't kick straight in the last. 9 points, 1 out on the full.

Con's:

Kick out still causing us grief
Some of disposal, especially handballs landing at the feet of targets
The umpiring was woeful
And a bunch of rather ordinary efforts already mentioned

I'm really flattered that I was ranked 2 on the list of people who piss you off on this site. If your list remains this way till the end of the season, that will have me up against Ara in the first qualifying final. Of course, Sydney Blue is currently in 7th spot.........which is good for him because his goal this year was just to make the top 8 of posters who get under your skin.....and he's come from a long way back.....and given that he has no visible plan for how he structures his posts, he's done quiute well. I say, 'suck it up' to all those that think he shouldn't be in your top 8.

(PS. apologies to SB...all in good fun)

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Pros
- Gibbs and Murph
- Stevens of old last night
- Fev kept trying and didn't drop his bundle
- Judd up forward in the 2nd half
- Hadley. Yes he made some clangers however he is a better option than Bentley IMO.
- Walker getting through unscathed
- Kreuzer & Hampson bouncing back against getting beaten early

Cons
- Kangaroos were the better side for 3qtrs of the match and should have won. 9 behinds in the last qtr!
- Scotland ineffective for most of the match.
- Joseph. I really like the kid but it looks like he needs a rest.

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