Well said jimmae

It's 2009 now. Bower has proven himself. He doesn't play a poor game, and sure he can improve with his handball...but the kid achieves the end result in his uncanny manner.

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He showed that he doesn't know how or when to punch the ball against the Swans, his dash is good though. Good project player.

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I watched him cut off leads by making at least two spoils running with the flight during that game...

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For mine it's Waite ...

Sets us up from down back with his rebounding and ability to run through the lines, great pace and anticipation ... and gives the team flexibility to swing forward and kick a goal.

I'd then have Kreuz (given our ruck stocks) before Jammo.

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Both very good players, and amongst my top 10 at the club but I think Jamison is the more important player to the team mainly because he is the only player who is able to consistently hold the power forwards and without him our back line structure (which has been very good this year) is shot because we either need to bring a useless player in (Harts) or put T-Bird to full back and Thornton can be a bit underwhelming as a 1 on 1 defender (though he did manage to embarrass Brown into making a fool as himself). Bower has been very impressive this year though and ever since he was beaten by Bradshaw in rd. 3 he hasn't been completely beaten by anyone, including Franklin and even Riewoldt ended up breaking about even with him. To me though it seems his role is more able to be replaced by Austin or alike than when Jamison is absent.

Looking forward to seeing our full strength Backline together again FINALLY tonight

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At the moment: Jamison.

But give Bower another year or so to (hopefully) develop better composure while carrying the ball, and he could be a very, very damaging player.

He has come on in leaps and bounds so far in 2009, let's hope his improvement continues.

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Interesing.

I watched the Swans game and Pies game this morning, so the Swans game is pretty fresh.

Bower not only had a man to mind, but as has been his role (?) or instinctive behaviour to help out a team mate, he left his man and spoiled his team mates opponent on numerous occassions.

The Swans rarely went forward through Bower's man.

Kingkerna, I love your style, but not on this occassion.

It seems that you have some strong held beliefs on Bower which you should let go of.
A lot of people have, and imo it's a perception issue.

Bower is better than you think.

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Which power forwards has Jammo been able to hold?

Jonathon Brown?
Barry Hall?
Reiwoldt?
Kosi?
Hale?

Just curious. I haven't seen him beat a much bigger opponent, or power forward. So I may have missed something.

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Pretty sure Jamo played on Kosi this year and smashed him.
Anyone disagree with me?

out of those just Kosi, who he beat very convincingly. But he also has solid records against most tall forwards he has played on.. and more to the point he does it better then anyone else in the side

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He actually smashed Kosi v Aints this year, but...
He came to the club in 06 skinnier than skinny lappo, another 2-3 yrs in the gym before jammo will be able to match it with the monsters consistently in contests of strength.

Pretty sure Kosi played a blinder and kicked 6!

Correct me if im wrong

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9 disposals
2 contested
7 uncontested
2 clangers
33% efficiency
4 marks
1 I50
1 free against
1 goal
1 behind
94% game time
SuperCoach Ranking points 18

Shocker by Kosi's standards this year.

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Sorry mustve mistook it for another game.

I stand corrected

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I think run is the missing ingredient.

But our coach has programmed our boys to play tempo footy from the get go so what do you expect

I think run is the missing ingradient.

That's why we have a bloke who hasn't got AFL standard disposal in the backline: Armfield.
I was thinking of how slow we would have been without him last night.
There is a glaring problem with our pace from the backline.

I don't what our coach has programmed them to do...it is a development year imo, so I guess they are trying a bit of everything, but we have lost a bit of our daring attack.
I hope Walker gets his touch and confidence back to what we know he can deliver.

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The sad thing is i was trying to think of who we can bring in and we don;t have anyone.

Over the preseason i think Yarran, Anderson, Walker, Johnson and possibly Grigg are the ones we need to work on there running capacity.

The other problem is we need our best users by foot off half back.

As for Armfield i was so pleased to see i think it was the third quarter when he found stevo (not sure) in the middle rather taking the wide option which resulted in a shot at goal. Armfield could have easily gone the safe option to Bower on the other back flank but didn't.

I think that this was a mis-kick. Armfield was tackled as he kicked it.

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Nah that wasn't the passage i was talking about or maybe it wasn't Armfield could have been Robinson

Next year I'd have Yarran playing off half back.

WIth Waite and Bower setting up the rebound, Yarran, Walker, Johnson, Armfield and Simpson to dash off half back, through the middle.