Seatanta was credited with 5 contested marks that night (out of a match total of 17 as I remember), 4 of which were taken prior to Fev running into him.

He played the next week against Freo and kicked 4 goals.

Before putting s..t on a player at least have the decency to check even the rudimentary facts and not go off half-cocked.

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"You can't polish a James Hird"

Well said kkk.

Focus on Cloke bosman.

What does Cloke do in 2009 that he did in 2007 that you love so much?

Refer to CFC website, Cloke is spruiking...and he also gives you hints why he has been in the Ants since round 7. You know, there is a reason, and it has nothing to do with other players. Cloke wasn't dropped for Setanta. Cloke was dropped for being too slow, no longer taking marks as he did a couple of years ago...etc etc

Get fairdinkum.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Just keep barracking for Carlton as you have for a few decades and enjoy the ride...and you and I WILL witness the 17th Flag in the near future.

I don't care too much if Cloke is picked as It's not in my circle of influence, but I will be surprised and annoyed. I'd rather get games into Austin in the forwardline to tell you the truth.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Ideally we would never see Cloke, Bentley, Wiggins, Fisher, Bannister, Hartlett, Bentick & Hadley represent Carlton on an AFL ground ever again. However, because we have forward setup problems and the alternatives are raw (or potentially also crap) we have to play these guys every now and again.

So the bring back Clokey campaign, I am anti it in all ways. He is too slow, and offers even less than Fisher, who offers barely anymore.

The good news - NONE OF THOSE MENTIONED ARE PLAYING THIS WEEK!!!!