Greg (bentley)?

Gudd?









GIBBINS?!

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what we need is to get some run and good disposal from HAlf Back...this is clearly our biggest deficiency.

The funny thing is, we actually have a couple of players that would do it well..Gibbs could be an AA on the half back line with his reading of the play and crisp clean delivery.

I also believe Kade Simpson would be fantastic in this role. Kades's courage and his run from the backline would launch many an attack.

OK so after playing 20 questions the young "gun" has been identified.

Grigg really sucked last week. Needs to improve his kicking big time under pressure or when open - or he'll fail as a player. Very disappointed.

I wouldn't mind seeing Joseph have a midfield role that does not include a hard tag. He did 2-3 great line breaking runs (taking on opponents) from the back line during the tense 2nd and 3rd quarters on friday. If he is allowed to be attacking he could break the game open every now and then. Even HF and pushing up into the midfield and adding more pace,grunt and defensive pressure in the guts.

Also Austin was OK on Friday, he should not be dropped. And don't drop Grigg, put him on the HBF and tell him to be positive, take them on. Persevere with Hampson - the marks will stick eventually.

Drop Fisher (I fear we have seen the last of him), Johnson (INJ), Yarran (just not rready), Hartlett (has not quite got it),

Houlihan, Russell and Bentley can go either way? Houlihan is not the answer, but is going pretty well ATM and Russell I can't make up my mind. Ratts likes Bentley and even though he also is not the answer, he was OK across HF at times in last two games.

Bring in Robbo (XFactor), Walker, Sentanta, Stevens (Had his chances - but is better than others) and Gartlett for Yarran.
That's 5 ins for 4 definite outs, Therefore one of Bentley or Russel will go.

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After Essendon* we dropped 5

After Collingwood

IN
Carlos and Jamo if fit
Wiggo
Walker
Robinson

There's 5 and I got a few more before Stevo.
Hadley.......
Cloke must deserve a game for efforts in the 2's


Outs.
Bentley
Johnson
Hartlett
Fisher
Yarran

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I am wondering if we can bring in that other rookie midfielder kid... he hasnt played in the first... as a tagger before... he must get a go....surely there is someone at north he can tag????
grigg isnt a tagger.......if he gets dropped its cos hes tagger number 7 in a side.. where too many taggers wrecks the mix...

everyones a tagger.... theyre losing confidence....

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It's all about negating Synners not creating... negating. We may have stumbled onto something here...this may in fact be the long lost game plan that we've all been searching for. To negate the living flower out of our opponents...but for this to truly work you would in affect at some stage have bamboozled the oppostion to such a degree that they would be ok kicking the ball down to our end of the ground, because our CREATIVE players and ball movers would be too busy watching their opponents...

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Parko was big on the defensive angle... and Ratts is a student of Parkos education...
Ratts has taken everything Parko taught him on board ... that is why Brown said "Ratten can coach this team with his eyes closed"

Parko hasnt coached in over a decade......

A team works as one unit defensively and as one unit offensively.. and not as individuals................. nowadays....

They get this thing calling called a "swarm" and to do that you need everybody moving as one...

We chip the ball here... we chip the ball there... handball backwards sideways and get choked... cos half the side is tagging... and locking down some hack from a hack side...
.... this perpetuates itself till our players lack creativity and run....

.. we dont bounce the ball... cos were chipping 20 meters sideways and of course you dont bounce if youre going to chip stop start....

id love to know how many bounces we get out of a game....

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Adam Simpson's last game.

They will be primed for this match. We'll need to be awake.

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Robbie Walls was stressed by that thought.

Stevens should be an In as well - he knows about accurate disposals into the forward 50 and having an extra midfielder could be handy if it allows Gibbs or Murphy time on the hff.

Sailor Man and J&K, nothing wrong with being defensive.

If you want to watch a bunch a Campo's go barrack for Essendon*.

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Stevens, Walker and O'hAilpin are all available. How cool would it be to see Walker back in the Blue jumper? 38 disposals should be enough to get him over the line.

When you line up in a game and Grigg and Russell head to the forward line and Houlihan and Yarran start on the bench it is quite clear what the message is.

IN: Jamo, Walker, Stevens, Cloke, (Garlett)
OUT: Hartlett, Fisher, Johnson, Bentley, (Yarran)

Either Setanta or Cloke can come in - I reckon Setanta may have to come back via the twos?
Give Grigg a job to do - he needs a bit more of that before he should be allowed to run free.
Similarly, with AJ, I would keep him tagging for a while longer. Maybe sometime next year, start to release him every now & then. It is much easier to tag than to play your own game for most players. Ratts started as back pocket and even Kouta played his best in the midfield after pretty solid stints at CHB.
However, I think we should now be giving Eddie more time rotating through midfield.

All this pales into insignificance, however, relative to GAME PLAN!!!!

..i agree, more-so was i seein' things or did Murphos also start on the pine..??.. ..personally i'm not sure why we use so many negating tactics, more-so why when we negate as we do, why we often choose to negate the wrong players.. ..case in point, colon/wood.. ..shaw and swan are their prime ball movers, and were left to their own devices the majority of the game.. ..yanno what we'd be sayin' if we were eligible for a pp don't ya..

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Some of our midfielders need to learn the defensive side of the game.
They're all too happy to roll the dice and run forward of the contest but they aren't quite so committed when they have to run the other way.
I haven't watched a replay of Fridays game but the Collingwood midfielders were working our blokes over on the transition. How many of Collingwoods goals were kicked by midfielders or midfielders running free into their 50 and plonking it on the chest of their team mates?

I attended a seminar last week where some opposition assistant coaches discussed midfield tactics and set ups. They showed a video of a player running ahead of a stoppage and letting his opponent get his hands on the ball without pressure. They inferred the player cheats at the contests.
It was Marc Murphy.
Some of these guys dominated junior footy and didn't have to worry about opponents. Murphy was tagged from Under 13s so he's never had to worry about accountability. Well, they need to learn now.

Ratten is doing the right thing developing the defensive side of the game to young players. If that costs us in the short term but benefits us when we need it to, so be it.
AFAIC, Grigg needs to develop his game substantially. He has a good awareness of how to win the ball but his ability to assist a team mate in a better position is virtually non existent. If he has to go back to the Bullants to do it, big deal.

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Hey BV, although it pains me to read given that it's about Smurph , can you post this in the numerous threads about our negative game plan?

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I agree. I find him to be playing one way at the moment. His defensive pressure is zilch. His physical pressure on a contest is non existent. He disguises it by winning a lot of ball. I think he can be a good player but he is definitely a "work in progress". I hope it his injuries that have stymied him and not our development programme.

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