Yeah sure thing. So when Murphy and Scotland run into the forward line and miss Fev by 5 metres, Fev wasn't really there.
Surely there's enough negatives out of the game to whinge about without making them up as well.

Pros for me-

Kruezer
Bower
AJ
Austin did well at times
Hammer has heaps of improvement in him
Fev didn't work extra hard but he didn't spit the dummy.
We played abysmal footy but were still in the game at 3/4 time.
Backline is really developing well.

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Honestly, were you at the game?

The reason they we missed Fev by 5 metres all the time isn't because everyone became a bad kick 7 days after they were a good kick. That's not logical Blue Vain - these guys are good kicks of the footy.

What happens is there is a guy in front of Fev, then another pushing him wide. He has nowhere to lead. And the players kicking to him have absolutely nowhere else to kick it. So they try to pinpoint an impossible pass and obviously the kick looks bad. But that's simplistic - it's not the kick, it's the impossible option. They are being asked to thread the ball through the eye of a needle - it can't be successful.

There were times when Judd and Murphy and Houlihan just could not hit an option - Are you telling me they're bad kicks?

That's ridiculous.

It's the poor setup, the lack of options, and the confusion moving forward that makes our disposal look poor


How many excuses do you have for our coaching staff Blue Vain???

How many? You are kidding yourself!

Judd and Murphy can't kick

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I thought there were occasions where Fevola DID have space to lead into and the kick wasn't good enough - one right in front of me from Murphy (those sitting in M15 would have seen it) - Fev had space on Presti but Murphy's kick landed in front of him.

So it's a combination of poor skill level (from some players who will normally hit targets) as well as Fev having Shaw/Maxwell sitting in front of him.

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Sure Effes,

Sometimes players will kick a bad kick. Happens every game.

But when it happens over and over and over and over again, to guys who are renowned good kicks (Judd Houla Murph) - its not the Kicking! It's something else - structural defects in our setup that are obvious for all to see.

Blaming kicking is just an excuse for rattten and co.

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If you've read my posts SB you'll find I'm very critical of our forward line structure and the way we try to move the ball forward.

You're right though - sometimes players will cop it because they turned it over when in reality they didn't have much to kick to so were forced into a very risky kick.

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Who mentioned Judd?
You should go back and read the post slowly. Yes I was there (N11, Level 2)

As for Scotland and Murphy (Who I mentioned), Scotland had 6 clangers (disposals straight to the opposition) and Murphy had a disposal % of 72.
Scotlands dont include kicks that landed 3 metres in front of his team mates or the ones that sat on top of their heads.

As for the coaching staff, I'm not here to make excuses for them. They performed very poorly last night and should be accountable for their performance. That doesn't mean they should carry the can for poor performances by the players though.
If Murphy misses a target from 15 metres away under minimal pressure, that's not Rattens fault.

Be critical by all means (which you do consistently) but at least be realistic in your assessments.

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My point is that our disposal efficiency was down last night, not because our players who are good kicks became bad kicks all of a sudden, but because too often they had no good options at which to aim.

I believe this is the fault of our setups and gameplan that is orchestrated by our coaching staff.

We didn't lose by 10 goals because Murph fluffed an easy kick or two.

When Murph and Scotto have good targets, they'll hit em up more often than not.

Blaming "the kicking" is simplistic. Shift your eyes forward and look what they're aiming at.

Diesel Williams would have looked like a bad kick last night with the targets we had.

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Nonsense.
If Fev is leading straight at Murphy with no one in front of him, (Which he was), he should be hit on the chest.
No excuses.

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Ypure not saying Murphy or Scotland tried to not hit them on the chest are you?
Agreed they should....

And most of the time they do!

So was it another bad day ??.... unlucky???... or is it a problem with their heads???

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You're talking about one example in a 120 minute footy game that we lost by 10 goals.

It's being simplistic.

We had poor disposal efficiency all round yesterday because we had no good targets to hit and no coherent gameplan.

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Pros: Kruezer
Bower
Thornton
Simpson
Fev (for his self-control if nothing else)

Cons: Just about everything else, a shocker!

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Cons:

The Forward line & midfield need to be more accountable when they do not have the ball.
Disposal was very ordinary
How many taggers were out there!!!!!

Pros:

Bower and Joseph were the only ones that tried to take them on
Hampson's work around the ground was very good
Thornton
Hawthorn losing. In such a tight competition this could be an omen. I still have the belief it will all turnaround very quickly

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PROS

Bower and Thornton in defense.
Kruezer is a briliant competitor
Bettsy is so dangerous
Hammer marked a couple and dropped a lot, but his endeavour was great, and they will stick soon.
Murphy and Simmo tried their guts out.
Houla good at times (but faded out)
Maybe just maybe Walker, Robbo, Hadley, Stevens and Army have standout games today in the Ants and break into the team
Hopefully Jamo and Setanta come back from injury next week.
There's always next week.
We're sitting 7th on the ladder.

CONS

The disposal by hand and foot right from the word go was appauling.
Forwardline structure non existent without Setanta presenting around HF
Warnock, Walker and Waite missing. Could have done with them last night.
What's the plan?
Pressure on the mark...like Saints...non existent
Pressure on the ball carrier from the opposition...just keep our distance
Providing a lead to the ball carrier....lack of effort and structure
We hd no HF line....Fish where are you?
Allowing the oppostion to play loose men on every line...wots up Ratts?
Not worthy of a top 4 spot...it's gawn for 2009.

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..our luckiest crap weekend in a long time, all the teams competing for a finals spot with us also lost..

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Were hoping to do it using the Stephn Bradbury model not the Edwin Moses model.

Our model wont be about building ourselves up to be the best out there... its going to be .... lets hope everybody else falls over ..

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TENTATIVE
TIMID

When we have the ball or when we don't.
It's like we're waiting for something to happen that will pave the way for the perfect option.

Must change.

PROS

Eddie.


CONS

We got STAGESTRUCK on a big Friday night game AGAIN. The players looked scared to make mistakes.

We had another chance to cement our spot in the eight, on the big stage and we choked big time.

We demonstrated some of the worst disposal I have seen in a long time. The slight breeze was not excuse for the constant missing of targets.

Once again we got sucked into playing a style of game that suited our opponent.

We did not put up a fight against our great rival, and rolled over and played dead in the last quarter.

[quote="Synbad"]Ypure not saying Murphy or Scotland tried to not hit them on the chest are you?
Agreed they should....

And most of the time they do!

So was it another bad day ??.... unlucky???... or is it a problem with their heads???[/quote]

Is it just me or do we fail every time there's something up for grabs? Do the players spend all their nervous energy before the game and that's why we're flat when we run onto the ground? Are the older players so damaged by the past they can't accept that sucess could be on the horizon? Does this in turn spread to the younger players. The Essendon* game and Friday's game seem to follow a similar path, both were big games and in both we were caught like rabbits in the spotlight......sorry just struggling to understand

..... and the next big MCG Friday night game is vs Geelong. There'll probably be another 80,000 crowd. Time to build the Great Wall to keep the rabbits out. We don't want another debacle

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