After the Essendon* game yes
Go away for a month and see how much you miss playing footy.
He got injured (ankle) in the first quarter last night so he wasnt to blame at all for the pathetic effort. Our forward stucture was dumb, dumb and dumber. Ratten is accountable for that

KK we have too many front runners in our team.
Fev is one of them.
Problem is when he is on he is awesome.
But the Essendon* game was it for me personally. Give him a month off and see how he responds. The club didnt do that.

Judging by that head in the sand attitude what do they do with Yarran.
Fact is they rewarded his half arsed efforts in the VFL with a game against the swans. He does a couple of golden things and gets rewarded with another game and embarrasses the jumper.
Gartlett should never have been dropped. At least he chases unlike Yarran.

How do you think that helps team morale.
Its a team game.
Our best and worst are so far apart because of the makeup of some of the individuals in the team.
Yarran and fevola are 2 of them.
And the club havent done enough in trying to change brendan's behaviour.

I was happy for Yarran to play last night, he got found out though, Garlett isn't any better though.

Dare I say it if we make September we will need old bodies such as Wiggins in the team.

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A bloke i work with is cousins with Neck Stevens, and Melvey is 100% right, Scotland and Stevens dont get along with Ratten and they got caught gobbing off about him.

The difference with the game last night was they have a great coach ( best in the AFL in my opinion ) and he knows how to play to their strengths and get them playing TOGETHER. Where as ours relies on individual brilliance to get us home... eg: Judd or Fev, notice its either one of them thats on fire when we win. We dont deserve finals and given our recent record VS North i wouldnt count next week as a win... im very cautious.... honestly we are over rated

I love Ratts and i know he loves the club... but unfortunately he isnt tactical enough and doesnt have a enough tricks.... GET LEIGH MATTHEWS, or if Malthouse is available GET HIM

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Come on Melvey, what makes you think Buckley will be such a good coach, what has he done so far? Zilch.
Don't get caught up in the media hype that every team in country, actually in the milky way is chasing him.
He is nothing but a losing grand finalist captain, lead his team to an almighty thrashing in the 2003 GF. He inspired his men that day.
Buckley is nothing but a selfish turd who wants the Collingwood football club to knife Malthouse in the back so he can take over.
He left the Brisbane lions/bears to to go play in a team that could win a premiership, great coaching move that one.
Buckley looks out for himself and no one else, he played that way and will coach that way.
He is the type to say after a win "it was all my coaching moves that won the game" FIGJAM, look at me, look at me.
And after a loss, he will be quick to blame the players.


What else do you want Ratts to say when asked "tactical" question before a game, tell them every thought they have, possible match ups..
Kevin Sheedy was a master of ranting on when asked a question.

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Our match winners were nullified.

Our weaknesses were exposed.

Thus we were pressured out of the game.

Collingwood simply outperformed us on the ground and in the coaches box.

We're simply getting worked out ... things (structures?) need to be changed.

No excuses.

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There's so much I could say...

Graeme Bond on 3aw would be getting very nervous...it's obvious now that this is a stepping dtone for Ratts to become one of the games leading radio stats men! 11 Europcar stats this quarter to the champ...

pow . scotland and stevens and several others are not happy with ratten and are questioning his coaching. we have a very confused and frustrated group at the moment. we desperately need someone who can pull them all together and get them playing positive football as a team. there is potential on our list but our development is extremly poor and confusing. the biggest mistake we ever made was putting a young coach with a young group. unfair on both parties involved. will sticks and swann be tough enough to address it?

48 hours ago you were leaving and never posting again!
Will this unsubstantiated rubbish prove to be as credible as your last effort?

As for Nick Stevens, if you wants a coach that will let him run around fat, overweight and unaccountable, perhaps he should look elsewhere.

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We have come full circle, from Pagan and his outdated coaching methods to Ratten who doesnt seem to have a clue against tactical modern thinking coaches. FFS Shaw played loose for most of the night and stood in front of Fevs. Which meant when the ball was coming out of our forward line Fev had to chase him halfway up the ground while Presti stood in the goalsquare. Hammo had a crap game but spent most of the night chasing Thomas and Didak. WTF!!! Poor Kruez getting thrown into defence, ruck and the forward line, good old Mr Fixit who is 200cm! Do we want this kid to get stress fractures or what Our skills were shocking, or endevour worse but the lack of system killed us. We cant play 3 qtrs waiting for it all to click into place. Our blokes are going backwards.

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I stole Sheedy's Gatorade...

well, my turd and rattans turd meet on the way to werribee and my turd called me on its crappy ipoo phone and told me allot of crap and innuendo -

Come on, how many players have not got along with the coach at any club?
Andrew Mcleod and Tyson Edwards don't get along at Adelaide, do they say that's why they lost last week to the Saints?

So 2 blokes don't like Rats, maybe because they played like crap and didn't follow team rules and do the team thing and got dropped and because of this we want to sack the coach, god help us, I don't think there is enough coaches going around for 22 games.

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Malthouse is miles ahead of Ratten and would be top 3 of the last 20 years. Consistently puts committed teams onto the park, has had tactical blind spots, but i think they are often in service to a larger goal. A man i admire greatly, he's a prick to the media, which I don't love, as they're the (crappy) filter to the the supporters, but he's his own man which is good.

Give him $1.5m a year for 3 years. Tell him we don't need short cuts, get it done properly. Don't get the best available....

I really liked AJ's game last night - might be time to plonk him in the middle for a few games.

I hope Setanta can come back in and Walks/Garlet/Robbo play blinders, we need to fix that forward line. I know we are in trouble when we play games where there is no HF line.

Tex/Robbo/Garlet and Santy there please. And next year Tex/Garlet/Robbo/Yarran Santy/Waite/Kruise/Hammer there please.

I wait for the day when we have Two HBF who can hit targets - but for this to happen regularly we really do need a strong HF Line.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

As that great philosopher john McEnroe once (or twice) - YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS

I have resisted the temptation to really vent my spleen about specifics because it has all been said but that statement from Ratten shows that he has no idea. And we couldn't believe our ears at lappins 3/4 time comments That "hopefully This" and hopefully that" just made it worse.

I cannot recall being so disappointed or disgusted with the team. And glad that i was watching it someone else's house otherwise i reckon something would have gone through the telly. And i knew it was bad when Blue Sombrero was actually swearing.

What is so frustrating is that the game against the swans was so good in the second half.

Finally, didn't hear what stats ratten was quoting, but last week we had something like 180 kicks and 120 handballs and kicked 19.10 and last night had 200 kicks and 180 handballs (most of which were shit) and kicked 4.14 - go figure.

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I'm tipping if the media follow through on some of the rumours posted here we could be in for a long week of denial by our Club and Players

I see the problem here.
It was much more enjoyable if you were actually at the game freezin' your bee hind off!

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The worst part about yesterday's game is the fact that family members and friends had spent their hard earned and flown into Melbourne for the "block-buster" game. Furthermore, last minute, for personal reasons I had flown to Canberra and talked up what was to be an exciting game to friends that are so-so about AFL...

A @#$%&! insipid performance and yet again it's the same nuff-nuffs with their head in the sand...

I too cannot believe anymore than your token-imbecile-poster is bagging Hampson. He's a 201cm, 21 year old ruckman that's been playing the game for barely a couple of years. @#$%&! me, at that age and height it's a miracle he's pushing for selection, let alone the sheer fact that he's in his infancy as far as footy nous is concerned. Ratten's been in the game for 30 years, has won B&F's in a Premiership team and still cannot drill a side to do the basics after 2 years at the healm. At worst he should at least be a motivating force, but that is not apparent given our shite starts to so many games this year. Your money would be better spent employing a motivational speaker each week and leaving the players to their own devices. So give the kid a @#$%&! break. At least he has a dip. The Love Child, JR, couldn't hit a target lat night 20 metres in front and he's in his 5th year in the system. He's come from a footy background and yet continues in his inability to execute the most basic of skills.

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In every article about him
Stevo always offers an excuse when things dont work out for him
So if he has been dropped because according to Stevo its the coaches fault it fits a behaviour pattern which is negative to a team environment.
If it is true ring Jeannie Pratt up and sign a 500000 cheque for next years services and say to Stevo

SEE YA

Harts put in the ruck as White was too good for him and we had to find a way to put Krooze forward after 1/2 time.

Krooze to CHF, Hammer stayed in the ruck, Harts to the bench. When Hammer needed a rest, Krooze to the ruck (maybe Harts but didn't see much of him there) and Harts to CHF. Not ideal, but a way of getting Kreuze fwd and hiding Harts.

Why it was done last night, who knows. Don't stress, Carlos will rid us of the Harts problem pretty soon.

I don't blame ratten for last nights loss.
1/2 thru the third we were in the game up tour eyeballs. 2 goals would have opened it up. Turnovers and missing targets like we did have to be blamed on the players. Kicking the ball above forwards head is not rattens fault. Gibbs repeatedy picking out Magpies on their own isnt rattens fault. We were streaming through the centre repeatedly but couldnt get past half forward. Picking wrong options, being unwilling to keep running and run through the wall was very costly. If we got reward for our efforts in the third, it would have been game on. As it was Colonwood was always 2 goals from breaking the game open. 4 goals 16 behinds is woeful kicking

But the problem is that we have seen it too often. Why was Collingwood allowed to have a spare man in front of Fev? As much as our skill errors were deadly,We lost the game in the first 1/4. We lost the game in the centre. We lost the game in our forward line. Thats where Ratten has to start taking the blame. I don't think he cost us the game but hasnt been able to put our players on an equal footing in set ups. I thought that he made the right adjustments after 1/4 tme , collingwood couldnt get forward with much fluency in the 2nd and 3rd, but how many bad first 1/4 are we going to have before we get the right set up in the first.
If he didnt get his extension in the summer, his job would be in serious jeopardy. We have failed in the all the "crunch" games.
We need a serious re-organisation of the coaching structure. There are too many people there where this is their first job. We can't afford to give them 2-3 years to learn the caper.

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Agree. If stevens and scotland are undermining the coach as melvey claims ( i hear the captain was not too pleased with them) then they have to go. The two have got away with murder at the club but this is it as far as i am concerned.
Find a way to pay out there contracts without having the money in the SC. Then use that money to bring in a juddlike pro like ROK. He is in the same age bracket as them two but twice the player and leader.

I have had enough of stevens if this rumour is true or not.