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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:54 pm 
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Fingers crossed he gets through, good luck Andrew.

I'm nervous about this. I know we have good medical staff but I am still nervous. I hope he is fully recovered and sets himself up for a stellar second part of the season and wins us 4 finals...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:26 pm 
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Let's hope he plays a bit smarter from now on, I'm sure he's learnt that playing recklessly will increase the risk of re-injury dramaticaly.
Judd is the perfect example of this, he's always aware of how he lands, and of his shoulders limitations in general.

Good luck Andrew, hope you tear them a new one :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:17 pm 
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Survived the first half so far. Heard his name a few times on the Internet stream from Casey.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:49 pm 
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But laying some strong tackles.

Regards Cazzesman

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:52 am 
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Regards Cazzesman


I assume that is rust and not...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:33 pm 
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I love Walks. However, after watching him yesterday, I'm not compltely convinced he should come straight back in. He got a lot of the pill playing across half back and bit through the middle but definitely lacked a bit of confidence. Let himself down a fair few times with some very average disposal, including a total shocker kicking straight to the opposition when kicking out after a point which resulted in a goal right back over his head. He also seemed to shy away from a couple of clashes too, and I noticed him going up with only one arm on at least two occassions. However, the class he oozes was still evident and maybe the best thing is just to stick him right back in the thick of it at top level. No doubt about his fitness. Dilemma. God, I'dlove to see him back and in full flight.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:36 pm 
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I trust the medical staff. And hope the match committee do too.

If we're going to figure later in the year, he should figure as soon as ready.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:19 pm 
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bluehammer wrote:
I trust the medical staff. And hope the match committee do too.


Obviously the medical staff haven given him the thumbs up to play but thats not the issue.

The issue is his lack of match conditioning and confidence with the shoulder. We need 22 blokes out there that are going to body there body on the line for a win against the pies.

Walks must be eased back in and have him right to burst into the finals


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:22 pm 
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I'd say the issue is his poor/rusty skills atm.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:27 pm 
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I'd say the issue is his poor/rusty skills atm.


Walks needs to be eased back in, he has missed a fair bit of football. No need to rush bak someone who could do some damage (if) we make the finals.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:33 pm 
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Melvey wrote:
bluehammer wrote:
I trust the medical staff. And hope the match committee do too.


Obviously the medical staff haven given him the thumbs up to play but thats not the issue.

The issue is his lack of match conditioning and confidence with the shoulder. We need 22 blokes out there that are going to body there body on the line for a win against the pies.

Walks must be eased back in and have him right to burst into the finals

Straight back in for mine. He's ideal for that negating half forward role or Waite's old third man up defensive role.

He's a shark. He's not there to go body on body... Pinch the footy, then run and handball.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:08 pm 
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Melvey wrote:
bluehammer wrote:
I trust the medical staff. And hope the match committee do too.


Obviously the medical staff haven given him the thumbs up to play but thats not the issue.

The issue is his lack of match conditioning and confidence with the shoulder. We need 22 blokes out there that are going to body there body on the line for a win against the pies.

Walks must be eased back in and have him right to burst into the finals


I would argue that true match fitness can only be gained at AFL level, VFL is just a stroll in the park for an athlete like Walker. The only benefit of VFL games would be to get 40 touches.

Play him across half forward where he can run and chase and provide matchup problems for Collingwood.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:16 pm 
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I would argue that true match fitness can only be gained at AFL level,


You can argue that all you like but I would argue that if he turned over the ball like he did yesterday at AFL level it would cost us about 6 goals. At VFL level it might cost you 1-2 goals.
There is no question about his fitness but he has not disposed of a footy under pressure for 15 weeks or so.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:16 pm 
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Rafalution wrote:
Melvey wrote:
bluehammer wrote:
I trust the medical staff. And hope the match committee do too.


Obviously the medical staff haven given him the thumbs up to play but thats not the issue.

The issue is his lack of match conditioning and confidence with the shoulder. We need 22 blokes out there that are going to body there body on the line for a win against the pies.

Walks must be eased back in and have him right to burst into the finals


I would argue that true match fitness can only be gained at AFL level, VFL is just a stroll in the park for an athlete like Walker. The only benefit of VFL games would be to get 40 touches.

Play him across half forward where he can run and chase and provide matchup problems for Collingwood.


No offense mate (and im not being a smart arse) but have you played football?. No matter what level you play, a significant time out of the sport is so hard to get back into the swing of things. Playing 40 minutes doesn't cut it

Getting your hands on the ball is a start. Copping a few knocks is a start. Laying some tackles is a start. Picking up the intensity is a start. All done through the VFL is a start.

Going straight into the fast pace of AFL will really stretch the hammys. The fibres in your hammys haven't been stretched for some time and thats when you are most likely to do a Hammy.

Ease the guy back in. No need to rush him back in. Get him ready to explode onto the G come spetember.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:24 pm 
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he did take a big hit to the shoulder sunday and it past with flying colors :fight:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:27 pm 
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he did take a big hit to the shoulder sunday and it past with flying colors :fight:


glad to hear.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:28 pm 
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woof wrote:
Rafalution wrote:
I would argue that true match fitness can only be gained at AFL level,


You can argue that all you like but I would argue that if he turned over the ball like he did yesterday at AFL level it would cost us about 6 goals. At VFL level it might cost you 1-2 goals.
There is no question about his fitness but he has not disposed of a footy under pressure for 15 weeks or so.



He has played the best part of 6 to 7 games in 2 years - It will take a bit of time one would think

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:55 pm 
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stubba wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
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Regards Cazzesman


I assume that is rust and not...



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:08 pm 
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Too much Cuzzy watching for you, Melvey.

Totally agree that match fitness is a different kettle of fish, but we're talking about the fittest bloke on the list - not to mention the fact that Cordy has been earning the Lichtenstein GDP for the last 20 weeks to manage his loads during training (now games) to make sure hamstring strains are not a problem.

FFS, he's 24 years old and has done nothing but running and leg work for 24 months. If his hammy is going to go on Friday night, then it will go any time.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:16 pm 
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It's not Match fitness he lacks, it's match touch/finesse.

Like my better half said, he was really really rusty on Sunday. Give him another week or two please.


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